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Ibram Gaunt posted:So how legitimate is the advice to go straight STR for tanking atm? WAR is now one of the best DPS in the game and the other two aren't doing so bad themselves so unless people poopsocksing themselves blind in Ravana Ex ran some numbers, tanking with str jewelry is still great.
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Ciaphas posted:In leveling Summoner I sort of feel like they could take away the pets completely, bolster the potency of the Ruins a bit, and rename the class and nothing would be missed. Better yet, keep the name Summoner and rename and reskin all the previous skills to be derived from a Primal. Bio can be an Ifrit dot, Bio 2 a Leviathan dot and Miasma a Garuda dot. Ruin 1 can be a Titan boulder and Ruin 2 can be a Ramuh bolt since it causes blind. Tri-Bind can be a Shiva skill.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 07:57 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:Literally the only time a truly pet centric class has ever been fun in an MMO is Masterminds in City of Heroes, and FF14 is not that style of game. So I'm okay with pets being most forgettable ability turrets that mostly serve to make the job lore distinct. I think they could do some more interesting cooldowns that buff the pet, at least. Something along the lines of Spur and Rouse, but more visually/mechanically interesting. Enkindle on a 2minute cooldown was a small step in the right direction, it's just overshadowed by everything else. And personally, I enjoyed playing a Beastmaster-specced hunter towards the start of some of the early expansions, and while they don't have to go full-on that route, I think there's room to make the Egis a bit more interesting.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 08:12 |
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So ... all the talk of classes a few pages back was pretty nice, but. When are we getting Samurai?
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 08:13 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:Literally the only time a truly pet centric class has ever been fun in an MMO is Masterminds in City of Heroes, and FF14 is not that style of game. So I'm okay with pets being most forgettable ability turrets that mostly serve to make the job lore distinct. RIP COX, taken too soon before its time. Though if they did put in Beastmaster, I would like them to go that route, with the Beast being the point from which all the BST's ability's damage comes from, and any actual effects coming from the BST being support or cooldown effects. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So how legitimate is the advice to go straight STR for tanking atm? I tanked Bismarck EX with full STR jewelry and had absolutely zero issues, and others have said the same about Ravana EX. Just make sure your left side is good and you should be fine.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 08:30 |
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I've tanked both with plenty of hp to spare as a DRK so I guess that makes sense, just wasn't sure if the hp buffer was more important in the long run or not.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 08:35 |
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NThan fates just shouldn't give xp once your class is 51+. The end.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 08:50 |
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http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/06/29/final-fantasy-xiv-heavensward-review This was posted before but every single comment on this review is negative, everybody is destroying this guy, and with good reason - what the hell did he expect? Although, what the hell did WE expect, it is IGN after all. As someone pointed out, even Kotaku can review better than this guy - and they're the ones who just this week posted an article complaining about the troubling social implications of a plot point that happens midway through Arkham Knight without seeing how it's resolved properly.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 09:03 |
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someone needs to make an au ra named Jeffiroth tia
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 09:15 |
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Espilae posted:http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/06/29/final-fantasy-xiv-heavensward-review neat
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 09:20 |
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Espilae posted:http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/06/29/final-fantasy-xiv-heavensward-review I never had an interest in game reviews outside of my subscription to Nintendo Power when I was a tyke, and this and some of the other articles linked in the comments make me glad for that fact. Has "games journalism" always been so politically correct, milquetoast and whiny? Or is it something new that's happening?
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 09:52 |
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Espilae posted:http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/06/29/final-fantasy-xiv-heavensward-review "we"
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 10:14 |
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We are so not having a discussion about ethics in games journalism in this thread.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 10:15 |
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It's about ethics in n.than fate grinding
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:02 |
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Dungeons give too much exp! Its like 75% of your entire exp bar for a single run. I'm at level 47 and my story quest is only at 44. I'm even skipping most of the side quests to try and catch up.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:11 |
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Velveteen posted:Dungeons give too much exp! Its like 75% of your entire exp bar for a single run. I'm at level 47 and my story quest is only at 44. I'm even skipping most of the side quests to try and catch up. It's fine, actually. There's a huge gap in main story quests between 47 and 49. Also there's no such thing as too much XP. KaneTW fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Velveteen posted:Dungeons give too much exp! Its like 75% of your entire exp bar for a single run. I'm at level 47 and my story quest is only at 44. I'm even skipping most of the side quests to try and catch up. This is actually a good thing since your first job won't get any Armory Bonus, so the Story Quests having a massive EXP reward helps keep things up.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:22 |
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Velveteen posted:Dungeons give too much exp! Its like 75% of your entire exp bar for a single run. I'm at level 47 and my story quest is only at 44. I'm even skipping most of the side quests to try and catch up. It sounds like they finally fixed the horrible gap between 47 and 49 where you were doomed to grind N. Thanalan fates for two levels before getting to finish the story. Net positive, IMO. I also learned today that they modified the level 45 and 50 Job quests to give you the upgraded ilevel 90 AF gear in addition to the ilevel 50 stuff. It's another nice catch-up mechanic to ensure that at least everyone has ilevel 90 left-side equipment.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:27 |
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Espilae posted:http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/06/29/final-fantasy-xiv-heavensward-review so it was about ethics in games journalism after all!!!!!!
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:30 |
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Whatever, I'm dumb. Back on topic: HAY GUYZ, is MCH hosed or what!? (seriously, was that just patch week one overreaction or is it really as bad as people say, I want to shoot things). Autisanal Cheese fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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vOv posted:We are so not having a discussion about ethics in games journalism in this thread. Actually, it's about ethics in Ishgardian clergy.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 11:45 |
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Boten Anna posted:WAR is now one of the best DPS in the game and the other two aren't doing so bad themselves so unless people poopsocksing themselves blind in Ravana Ex ran some numbers, tanking with str jewelry is still great. That said, make sure you grab some vit accessorites anyway. Sometimes healers suck or you've having an off day, That and sometimes healers get really pissy about what gear you have on and yeah you can be a super macho dude and tell him to gently caress off and convince the DPS to votekick him or you can just put on some loving stam gear because the time you spend arguing could be spent finishing the dungeon. Velveteen posted:Dungeons give too much exp! Its like 75% of your entire exp bar for a single run. I'm at level 47 and my story quest is only at 44. I'm even skipping most of the side quests to try and catch up. Well then you're in for a treat because leveling slows way the hell down in elflands. Robo Reagan fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Obligatum VII posted:If there was a dancer class, it would have to have that Mamool Ja dance as one of its moves. The only animation I can imagine doing it justice is a giant censor bar, though. Every single person in the raid's screen just cuts to
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 12:46 |
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The censor needs to be Hildibrand pulling The Most Gentlemanly Pose
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 13:48 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So how legitimate is the advice to go straight STR for tanking atm? Your main goal should be then, to find a combination of str and fending jewlery that lets you hit the Ravana EX acc cap (it's around 560 last i heard?) in DPS stance. Anything beyond that is gravy. On a side note, I keep seeing people trying to replacing DPS with Warriors, and it's been hilarious as additional tanks tend to hardcore gently caress up Primal/Raid mechanics due to the way the game decides who gets what in some fights. And WAR is EVENTUALLY getting that nerf in 3.1 (or whatever), and I'd rather have people learning how to play DPS classes now and getting good at those honestly. Rei_ fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jul 2, 2015 |
# ? Jul 2, 2015 13:49 |
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i'm leveling dragoon to 60 solely for tactics ogre dragoon armor
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Verranicus posted:I never had an interest in game reviews outside of my subscription to Nintendo Power when I was a tyke, and this and some of the other articles linked in the comments make me glad for that fact. Has "games journalism" always been so politically correct, milquetoast and whiny? Or is it something new that's happening? It has been politically correct, milquetoast, whiny and people forgot it always was somehow. Nintendo power was the poo poo though. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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please stop unironically using "politically correct" and talk about FFXIV instead please
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 14:33 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So how legitimate is the advice to go straight STR for tanking atm? Even as MT on Ravana Ex, on war, with full STR gear and point assignment I was never anywhere close to dying. War takes hits the worst of the three possible tank jobs too so right now, full STR is the way to go. Full law left side and slaying right side pushes you way over the Ravana accuracy cap, I might add, and probably will cap you out for at least the start of Alexander. That said, if you're planning on doing Alexander (especially Savage in 3 weeks) you are almost certainly going to have to throw more vit on for survivability, but no one knows how much. If you're doing Ex primals and your healers aren't as good at keeping you topped up, you might need more there too. My advice would be to get both sets of accessories, fending and slaying, now when you have a lot of time on your hands and 1000 law is easier to get. Default to max STR whenever you are doing something and sub in vit accessories as needed to increase survivability.
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Man, I didn't even realize how dire the situation was in Northern Thanalan. I was 70k from leveling at 54, so I went to hang a few FATEs and jesus gently caress, even at 8 am on a weekday on Excalibur it's like being in a prime time boss FATE. Everything dies instantly, it's laggy and culled to gently caress, and I can't help but think how cool it would be to see all these dudes spread out in the new expansion zones instead. What's the situation like on the JP side? Are they complaining about people doing NThan instead of ishgard FATEs? It doesn't even seem like a difficult fix, just make the EXP:HP ratios actually match or be higher than NThan.
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Minrad posted:Man, I didn't even realize how dire the situation was in Northern Thanalan. I was 70k from leveling at 54, so I went to hang a few FATEs and jesus gently caress, even at 8 am on a weekday on Excalibur it's like being in a prime time boss FATE. Everything dies instantly, it's laggy and culled to gently caress, and I can't help but think how cool it would be to see all these dudes spread out in the new expansion zones instead. Wait, I somehow missed this. People are using those Fates to level to 60? Do they hate fun?
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 15:05 |
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It's the Destiny loot cave all over again.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 15:09 |
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Boten Anna posted:Oh yeah also the worst part of that IGN review is that he's whining that BBUT NEW PLAYERS WILL HAVE TO QUEUE FOREVER FOR OLD STUFF PROBABLY ACCORDING TO NUMBERS I PULL OUT OF MY rear end and didn't take like 5 goddamned seconds to notice that there's daily roulettes that cover all the 2.0 story stuff and that this game has never really had a major problem with getting people in to help new players through content ever. The best thing about the dungeon finder changes is, if you need a dungeon/trial for story, queue solo and you will wait less than 2 minutes even as a dps.* And as a healer class, I get a newbie sprout in my lldr more often than not now, doing babby's first tam-tara. They really fixed this poo poo up. * As long as there's people queuing anyway, I had to wait 30 minutes for the final HW fight, because the last healer took that long to queue up (at 7am on a weekday, less than a week after release ). jim truds posted:Wait, I somehow missed this. People are using those Fates to level to 60? Do they hate fun? Welcome to
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jim truds posted:Wait, I somehow missed this. People are using those Fates to level to 60? Do they hate fun? FATES in HW zone's just don't reward greater enough XP to make them worth it. Oscar Wilde Bunch fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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You're supposed to be able to remove the level sync even with a full party, but it's broken: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/b7cce54cdfb8bc40675523d5998bec264a0116e0
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 15:24 |
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HW FATES give barely more EXP than the ones in N Than, (remember how exp scaled linearly during 2.0? That's how FATE and still scales up to 60, while http://i.imgur.com/DZvEboX.png). Add the fact that HW FATE mobs have dumb amounts of HP to chew through, exp/hr is possibly worse than N Than even in a FATE group? Also, I'm guessing not everyone has the expansion yet, which is why there's more playerbase for N Than than any single HW zone? Boten Anna posted:You're supposed to be able to remove the level sync even with a full party, but it's broken: This makes sense to me. I found it odd it'd work for 7 people but not 8.
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Iron Tusk posted:FATES in HW zone's just don't reward greater enough XP to make them worth it. It's not a matter of it being someone sitting down with a calculator and figuring out optimal XP per hour either. FATE XP in HW areas really is just bad. A fraction of a quest's worth of XP and noticeably more difficult to clear than ARR zone FATEs.
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# ? Jul 2, 2015 15:29 |
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Heavensward FATEs would be far preferable if the EXP matched the HP ratio of the mobs. - Flying mounts make zone travel trivial - Every zone (except Sea of Clouds, RIP) has a 1-2 level range of FATEs, so you're not sadly looking at the western side of Coerthas Central and wishing more of the mid 30s fates would spawn. - Zones themselves are larger and hold more FATEs, so you're basically guaranteed to always have FATEs up to do, and less downtime between them. - it's loving new god drat if I have to do that stupid succubi fate chain in nthan one more time............
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I DPS'd Amdapour Keep at 50 and it didn't actually give me any exp outside of fulfilling my challenge log for that day, so I dunno how exactly the HM dungeons work for exp. I don't think they give you any outside of roulettes.
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