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Has anyone here read Ghost Fleet? This thread seemed like the place to ask. The book has been billed as a sort of modern version of Red Storm Rising but against the Chinese instead of the Russians and with a much more alarmist bent. The author clearly intended for a lot of the plot points in the book to be pointed criticism of various American defense programs. Still, his amazingly evil and competent chinese bad guys had to fall back on some space magic that made our planes and subs not work to beat a near future US that's been further crippled by another global economic crisis, although I don't know if that makes the book more realistic or less. Does the author make any valid points, or is this the same sort of nonsense "speculative fiction " that had 90's writers predicting japanese killbots in America's streets?
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I, for one, welcome our murderous Japanese killbot overlords.
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Jul 2, 2015 10:14
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Does a nerdy air force officer save a beautiful icelandic woman from the clutches of asian rapists in this book?
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Jul 2, 2015 10:28
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ded posted:Um. Thanks for this gbs. god dammit why does such a funny dude have to be so wrong?
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Jul 2, 2015 10:51
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orange juche posted:god dammit why does such a funny dude have to be so wrong? Because he was loving Jenny Mccarthy at some point. Don't stick your dick in crazy.
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Jul 2, 2015 10:59
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I figured out a bit ago you need to divorce in your mind someone's beliefs from their performances. Actors are mostly really dumb people with stupid poo poo belief systems but they can produce some awesome movies. Besides, even funneling money into their wackadoo agenda doesn't affect me. Healthy white male with no kids. I'm invincible! Edit: the exception is someone like Kirk Cameron who lets his crazy belief system actively get in the way of making movies worth watching. His movies aren't even good to watch and make fun of.
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Jul 2, 2015 11:28
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Kirk Cameron was never good. Mark Rufallo is a truther who claimed the government put him on a watchlist for sponsoring a showing of Gasland.
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Jul 2, 2015 11:36
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Casimir Radon posted:Kirk Cameron was never good. To be fair, the threshold for getting placed on a goverment watchlist is pretty small. Making the wrong joke at a airport will get you a lifetime of 'random' screenings.
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Jul 2, 2015 12:43
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Looks like someone's shooting up the Washington Navy Yard again: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-navy-yard-site-2013-rampage-locked-down-after-reports-n385656
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Jul 2, 2015 13:16
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BigDave posted:To be fair, the threshold for getting placed on a goverment watchlist is pretty small. Making the wrong joke at a airport will get you a lifetime of 'random' screenings. My Father went to Iran on behalf of the UK government for a meeting about drug interdiction in the 90's (blame him for Hamas getting US made night vision goggles) and he had grief going to the US ever since, interviews, bag checks etc and that was before 9/11 when you started having mouth breathing retards guard your borders.
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Jul 2, 2015 13:25
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BigDave posted:Looks like someone's shooting up the Washington Navy Yard again: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-navy-yard-site-2013-rampage-locked-down-after-reports-n385656 Jesus Christ. Here we go again.
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Jul 2, 2015 13:25
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Can't the government do a casual Friday or get a water ice truck in once and a while?
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Jul 2, 2015 13:34
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ManMythLegend posted:Jesus Christ. Here we go again. The all-clear has been given; it was a maintenance worker on a roof that someone mistook for a gunman.
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Jul 2, 2015 15:16
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suboptimal posted:The all-clear has been given; it was a maintenance worker on a roof that someone mistook for a gunman. hahahahahahahahaha are you serious hahahahahahahahahah
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Jul 2, 2015 15:26
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Two Finger posted:Having recently watched the Pentagon Wars, I feel obliged to ask if it was real, exaggerated, or just made up? Christ that was a good, if depressing, film. I managed to get a copy of the book and it's really great. It actually covers more than just the Bradley, procurement in the 70's-80's was a real mess. Burton talks about the F-111, especially how the concept and technology was in advance of the engineering of the time. As an interdictor or tactical bomber, the F-111 was great but didn't really come into it's own until the F/G models that were so effective in Desert Storm. Prior to that, the plane was a disaster. There were so many untested technologies (swing wing, flying by radar, escape capsule) that kind of clouded the original design goals.   Add to that the fact that it was supposed to be all things to all people (Interceptor, Strategic Bomber, Carrier Operations) and you have the Navy/Air Force making opposing requirements so the A and B models were junk. It really is a predecessor to the F-35 in that you have money just being thrown at a troubled aircraft, no clear role, "Joint" requirements, new technology and a lot of teething problems.   The fact that it was never re designated to the A-111 or B-111 is pretty telling of the problems with the process. F-111's only ever carried one or two Sidewinders, almost never carried their (over-engineered) gunpods and I don't see any references to either being used in combat. Still, it turned into an extremely capable aircraft, albeit in a role it was never designed for, after 25 years of development and extraordinary amounts of money.   I can write up more about the F-111 or Pentagon Wars if anyone is interested, but I'm phone posting at the moment. Burton also talks about Network-Centric Warfare, Army Doctrine Issues, the HMMVW, M113. He had really great things to say about the F-16 and F-15 and was mentored by the "Fighter Mafia" behind those projects. He thinks that they were ruined by adding radar and ordinance capability, which is an interesting point of view. E: Godholio posted:...it's evidence that this thing might be the most F-111 project since the F-111, and that's not a good thing. But yeah, not conclusive. Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 15:42
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jim carrey is a huge loving idiot and has been for a long time. his movies are trash and hes a lovely actor too
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Jul 2, 2015 16:57
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rob schneider is anti-vaxx too it seems like a way for him to try and gently caress jenny mccarthy tbh
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Jul 2, 2015 17:03
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Ah, the infamous "gently caress that entire infantry brigade and anyone near them" loadout.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:04
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Having seen 15 minutes of Deuce Bigalow 2 a couple of days ago Rob Schneider can die violently in a gutter.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:05
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Rob Schneider makes Jim Carrey look like Groucho loving Marx.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:06
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Stultus Maximus posted:Rob Schneider makes Jim Carrey look like Groucho loving Marx. Rob Schneider makes the fish he blended look like Groucho loving Marx
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Jul 2, 2015 17:08
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Ugh just read an article about veterans "suffering from PTSD" not being able to handle July 4th fireworks. What a bunch of killjoys. loving welfare queens sucking on the socialist teat funded by my taxes wanting me to not enjoy my fireworks on Independence Day! Also, had there ever been a study done on percentage of servicemen that are cucked when on your? Thanks.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:28
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2/10 for effort. Dudes who put those signs up are dumb and probably are faking their combat vet status, hth.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:34
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People should be more concerned about their pets getting freaked out by fireworks.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:36
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It just makes me realize how lame it was staying up all night to fire coordinated illum.
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Jul 2, 2015 17:43
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Man who spent 9 months in an air conditioned trailer that a mortar landed near that one time: please do not trigger me
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Equine Don posted:Man who spent 9 months in an air conditioned trailer that a mortar landed near that one time: please do not trigger me Dont be a dick, he probably never got much time with a trigger.
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Spicy Guacamole posted:Yeah, let's go ahead and pick a fight with absolutely everybody on the playground. There's no way that'll backfire. When are they going to drop the mitts or declare Jihad or whatever the hell with the Taliban/al Qaeda? I'd buy that pay-per-view.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:43
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God forbid the taliban start shooting roman candles and fire crackers at NATO troops....then we're really hosed.
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fits my needs posted:Ugh just read an article about veterans "suffering from PTSD" not being able to handle July 4th fireworks. What a bunch of killjoys. loving welfare queens sucking on the socialist teat funded by my taxes wanting me to not enjoy my fireworks on Independence Day! Equine Don posted:Man who spent 9 months in an air conditioned trailer that a mortar landed near that one time: please do not trigger me not caring here posted:People should be more concerned about their pets getting freaked out by fireworks. 
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Jul 2, 2015 18:55
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with any luck Carrey's depression will win out and he'll solve the problem himself
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Jul 2, 2015 19:03
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CBJSprague24 posted:When are they going to drop the mitts or declare Jihad or whatever the hell with the Taliban/al Qaeda? I'd buy that pay-per-view. pretty sure they already did that
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Jul 2, 2015 19:11
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CBJSprague24 posted:When are they going to drop the mitts or declare Jihad or whatever the hell with the Taliban/al Qaeda? I'd buy that pay-per-view.
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not caring here posted:People should be more concerned about their pets getting freaked out by fireworks. Fireworks trigger PTSD in dogs, hth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EPPMCwD5bw
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Jul 2, 2015 19:26
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgpfNScEd3M&t=173s
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Jul 2, 2015 19:33
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JSARSOM posted:If I remember correcty, they declared Jihad on each other a few months ago. Don't care enough to search for links. Can jihads cancel each other out?
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Jul 2, 2015 20:03
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News: we've built a giant robot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJTGLL2SnI Older news: so did Japan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29MD29ekoKI What's the logical conclusion? They need to fight!
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Jul 2, 2015 20:35
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Jim Webb is officially running for President.
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shyduck posted:Jim Webb is officially running for President. What's he done after the Post-9/11 stuff? He was just a one term senator yea?
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holocaust bloopers posted:What's he done after the Post-9/11 stuff? He was just a one term senator yea? Pretty much. I've always wondered why he declined to run for a second term. 
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