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year199X posted:What other people said, I basically bought this game just for Monk. 
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year199X posted:Why not? It's worked pretty well for me. Just don't mash the same key 20 times or you'll just do the first move in the rotation. With GCD abilities, you can queue up the action so that it fires the instant it becomes available. Macros don't allow you to do this because they're executed client-side. The result is that you lose a fraction of a second between each GCD, and that adds up over a long fight. Bottom line: if you actually care about your DPS, don't use macros.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:24
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:phone posting but it's because macros don't spam abilities while the gcd is ticking so you end up losing like .5 seconds on gcd abilities or something Fister Roboto posted:With GCD abilities, you can queue up the action so that it fires the instant it becomes available. Macros don't allow you to do this because they're executed client-side. The result is that you lose a fraction of a second between each GCD, and that adds up over a long fight. Bottom line: if you actually care about your DPS, don't use macros. Oh, I didn't know this was a thing. I just liked having a super nice condensed hotbar.  Guess it's time to 
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Jul 2, 2015 18:25
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year199X posted:Why not? It's worked pretty well for me. Just don't mash the same key 20 times or you'll just do the first move in the rotation. When you hit the a GCD ability before your GCD is up (in the last .5s or so), the client sends the ability to the server preemptively so that the GCD fires off immediately. This is to help compensate for network lag, make the game flow better, etc and is known as ability queuing. Macros can't queue so you lose ~0.5s every single gcd. Since monks have a ~2s gcd, that means you're losing a whopping 25% of your dps, just by using macros. Also macroing all of your skills together holy poo poo what where you thinking
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Jul 2, 2015 18:26
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Yeah it also severely reduces your flexibility and adaptability. What do you do for Perfect Balance?
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Jul 2, 2015 18:28
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bonewitch posted:When you hit the a GCD ability before your GCD is up (in the last .5s or so), the client sends the ability to the server preemptively so that the GCD fires off immediately. This is to help compensate for network lag, make the game flow better, etc and is known as ability queuing. I just want to point out that this is true for all abilities, when cast times are involved, not just GCD ones. I.e., you can queue your cleric stance to turn off as soon as that Ruin finishes casting. My only wish is that we could set the queue time to be longer. 0.5s isn't too short, but I'd prefer a bit more wiggle room myself. SWTOR had the option of setting it up to 1s, and that had a 1.5s GCD.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:33
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Honestly, even before I used the macros I almost never used perfect balance because I would just do the 1-2-3 4-5-6 for rear/flank. This is all stuff I never think about cuz I just wanted to punch things in the dick. Sorry, I'm about as casual as MMO players come.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:35
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I macro fracture onto every GCD e. I also party chat every single ability when playing ninja. /p DANCING EDGE: FEAR MY HANZO STEEL Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 18:35
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Hey, yeah, macroing is bad, don't do it, but don't browbeat people for trying it. It's available as an option and I don't think many people would think to dig that deep into client-side mechanics to find out how well it works. The whole "what were you thinking?" question is a waste, because they were thinking "Hey, this is pretty convenient and saves me some hotkey space". poo poo, I wouldn't have known it myself without someone telling me.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:37
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Now if you're macroing bar switches, particularly if you're using a controller, that can really help with monk.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:43
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armoredgorilla posted:The whole "what were you thinking?" question is a waste, because they were thinking "Hey, this is pretty convenient and saves me some hotkey space". Yup, that pretty much nails it. It's slowly dawning on me that in my /played of 15 days I've been carried hard for most of it. Well only part of that was monk, the other part was white mage and gladiator, which I didn't use macros for outside of the swiftcast + raise macro etc or something that lets me attack while focusing the tank.
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nuru posted:People are probably reading into the generic AF WAR we saw on the moon far too much. Maybe, but I nevertheless think the Warrior of Darkness is, essentially, a primal version of the Warrior of Light. Formed from the desperate prayers and wishes of the people of Eorzea, and channeled by an Echo-bearer chosen by Zodiark much like Ysayle was able to channel Shiva. The most tenuous part of that is admittedly the idea that Zodiark can grant the Echo. Remember, though, Lahabrea and Igeyorhm had that ability if their dialogue before becoming the Ascian Prime was any indication. And I doubt that the same being (presumably Hydaelyn) that gave the WoL that ability would give it to an Ascian. That said, I'm more curious about what exactly was meant by the Eighth Rejoining. I can't seem to fit that number into the Astral/Umbral Era splits without either too many joinings or too few, but that may be due more to how those splits are determined by political figures. Alternately, a Rejoining resets the Astral/Umbral cycle entirely: Hydaelyn and Zodiark merge, and everyone turns into LCL or something.
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Spaceman Future! posted:e. I also party chat every single ability when playing ninja. /p DANCING EDGE: FEAR MY HANZO STEEL This is almost the right way to play. You need some <se.*> in there so people can recognize your skills by sound alone.
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(last scenario things which I haven't even finished because I'm bad at not mousing over spoilers) The thing everyone's describing happens in the level 50 DRK quest, which was (among other things) a straight callback to FF4. It was incredibly deliberate there. So why would they have placeholder generic dude when the DRK thing pulled it off perfectly?[ So they wouldn't think we were just facing "Fray" in a new costume or something?
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Jul 2, 2015 18:47
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Unless I'm mistaken, the Fray stuff happens in an in-engine Cutscene, where as the Warrior of Darkness is a full blown animated cinematic? Probably  to make a "dark copy" of you in that context.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:57
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Playing casually is fine, but learning even a basic rotation is incredibly easy and will put you at like ~75% efficiency or whatever. Thats easily the difference between a dungeon run taking 20-30 minutes and 45-60 minutes.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:59
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Vahalla posted:Unless I'm mistaken, the Fray stuff happens in an in-engine Cutscene, where as the Warrior of Darkness is a full blown animated cinematic? Probably I'm pretty sure it's just a cutscene because I don't remember it being super pretty, also clicking on speech bubbles.
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Jul 2, 2015 18:59
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Maybe the Warrior of Darkness looks like Generic Hyur because we're not supposed to know what they look like yet?
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Jul 2, 2015 19:06
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Gearhead posted:Maybe the Warrior of Darkness looks like Generic Hyur because we're not supposed to know what they look like yet? Old warriors of light that got corrupted. Then they can recycle all those models from the ARR opening movie.
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Jul 2, 2015 19:09
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Tenzarin posted:Old warriors of light that got corrupted. Then they can recycle all those models from the ARR opening movie. Alright, I like this idea a lot. On another note, I got SMN to 58 recently and there's some job quest dialogue that has me wondering. Y'mhitra mentions that I was at the Battle of Carteneau. Though my character is a 1.0 character, I only have the tattoo and I never really went far at all in 1.0. I don't have legacy status or the special little intro/ending cutscenes that legacy characters get where the Scions and GC leaders recognize you as one of the titular Warriors of Light, as opposed to the successor to the legacy of heroic adventurers. AFAIK they don't really plan on catering to legacy players much more than that because they also get a discount on sub fees. I"m guessing they're just rolling all PCs into actually being the original warriors of light rather than an echo-touched adventurer who earns that title. Edit: vvv Ah. I wonder what a non-1.0 character gets for that. Argas fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 19:17
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Argas posted:Alright, I like this idea a lot. The flag for these dialog forks is sometimes purely based on the time travel tramp stamp.
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Argas posted:Alright, I like this idea a lot. I think every new Warrior of Light is just some rando that was at Carteneau and got the blessing of Hydaelyn because Fate or whatever.
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While we're at it, are there other instances of characters having different dialogue based on quests you've done? One of my friends was talking to her for his class quests, and during the MSQ when you talk to her she reacts as if they were friends, whereas for me I don't recall her doing that.
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I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb.
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year199X posted:While we're at it, are there other instances of characters having different dialogue based on quests you've done? One of my friends was talking to her for his class quests, and during the MSQ when you talk to her she reacts as if they were friends, whereas for me I don't recall her doing that. Yeah, there's a couple of times throughout the story (I think it only starts happening in 2.5 and it seems like they're kind of slowly rotating through all of the classes so everyone can have a "hey remember that other thing you did" moment) where you get different dialog based on what classes you've completed-- Estinien mentions you being an Azure Dragoon if you've done the DRG quests, the THM and ACN guild leaders say something about you when you visit them, stuff like that.
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Opposing Farce posted:Yeah, there's a couple of times throughout the story (I think it only starts happening in 2.5 and it seems like they're kind of slowly rotating through all of the classes so everyone can have a "hey remember that other thing you did" moment) where you get different dialog based on what classes you've completed-- Estinien mentions you being an Azure Dragoon if you've done the DRG quests, the THM and ACN guild leaders say something about you when you visit them, stuff like that. Yeah, as a DRG at least, the one line about "[redacted] won't stand a chance against TWO Azure Dragoons!" was a cool little touch.
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Truga posted:I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb. I think the bigger point with the Aery is how real it mimics an MMO, because Estinien creates a raid party, Amphinauld wants to join, and Estinien tells him he can't because he's too much of a newbie.
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Truga posted:I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb. I was wondering how much time was supposed to have passed btwn that fight and the end of the MSQ because is Estinien just going to wear that bloody armor for ever?
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Truga posted:I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb. Who could be mad though, when he's just so drat happy in the close-up shot as he rips out Nidhoggs eye. 
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rock2much posted:I was wondering how much time was supposed to have passed btwn that fight and the end of the MSQ because is Estinien just going to wear that bloody armor for ever? How much time passes isn't certain. To be fair, I figure the armor's just stained blood red or something or it's supposed to be symbolic of how he has gone so far over the edge he's bathing in the blood of his enemies. No worries, though he'll be out of that armor before the story's done.
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Opposing Farce posted:Yeah, there's a couple of times throughout the story (I think it only starts happening in 2.5 and it seems like they're kind of slowly rotating through all of the classes so everyone can have a "hey remember that other thing you did" moment) where you get different dialog based on what classes you've completed-- Estinien mentions you being an Azure Dragoon if you've done the DRG quests, the THM and ACN guild leaders say something about you when you visit them, stuff like that. That's pretty rad then, I like when games acknowledge stuff you did. It makes you feel like you're an important figure in the story and characters look up to you as a friend, even if your only response to everything is a nod.
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bonewitch posted:Playing casually is fine, but learning even a basic rotation is incredibly easy and will put you at like ~75% efficiency or whatever. Thats easily the difference between a dungeon run taking 20-30 minutes and 45-60 minutes. Also, this is a cooperative multiplayer game. Not at least trying to be baseline good at your job actually DOES effect other people negatively. I would almost go as far to say it's inconsiderate to not try and do as well as you can, though you're never going to get everything 100% correct right off the bat and that's okay. year199X posted:Oh, I didn't know this was a thing. I just liked having a super nice condensed hotbar. This macro thing comes up a ton, so don't feel too bad. At least you're trying!
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Gearhead posted:No worries, though he'll be out of that armor before the story's done. Hahaha awww 
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rock2much posted:I was wondering how much time was supposed to have passed btwn that fight and the end of the MSQ because is Estinien just going to wear that bloody armor for ever? Until such time as he can take it off, sure. He says when he's got some time, he's going to have it reforged and poo poo.
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Truga posted:I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb. I'm totally cool with letting Estinien finally getting revenge for his family. This isn't Justice for Thrall.
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hi hello are any excalibur goons able to make the Kirimu Coat? apparently it requires a spergy level of LTW or something dumb but if I know goons I'm sure several of you can make it so please hit me up @ lt. mittens thank you
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Truga posted:I wonder what happens if you do The Aery as a DRG. Because holy poo poo that kill steal at the end is dumb. Aery.txt 
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Jul 2, 2015 20:30
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Truga posted:I'm pretty sure it's just a cutscene because I don't remember it being super pretty, also clicking on speech bubbles. Hm, probably wrong then. No clue what's going on if that's the case!
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Tenzarin posted:Aery.txt quote:of most heroic deeds.
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