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Wurzag posted:The lizardmen died on the way back to their home planet Being dead didn't stop Lord Kroak, so I am down with an army of undead lizardmen. Haha, maybe that's the plan - they'll be the new Legion of the Damned, emerging at dire times to combat chaos. Looking forward to sweet models of dinosaurs covered in fire.
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Ashcans posted:Being dead didn't stop Lord Kroak, so I am down with an army of undead lizardmen. Better get some of "battle damage" Jurassic Park models. Anyways I have decided that FW will release Warhammer 9th edition once the run out of heresy models.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:40
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look you guys, why do you keep going on about balance in KoW. balance is SO BORINGquote:So they make your list for you and it's all balanced. Just play checkers or chess. It's cheaper and balanced also. quote:Well then how can it be so balanced? We have free will now to pick units and people cry its unbalanced. This game can't be balanced. The player error, dice and list keep it different and uncertain for every game. That is what makes it fun.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:44
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quote:It's not too late. After a total flop with Sigmarr (we'll see how that pans out), GW could reverse course and release a proper 9th edition. It's just not looking very likely right now. What I'd theoretically worry about if I still gave a poo poo is the very real possibility that if AoS fails, GW will just go "I guess the world is no longer interested in Fantasy miniatures, let's just focus on our smash hit Sci-Fi line" and axe it entirely.
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FrostyPox posted:What I'd theoretically worry about if I still gave a poo poo is the very real possibility that if AoS fails, GW will just go "I guess the world is no longer interested in Fantasy miniatures, let's just focus on our smash hit Sci-Fi line" and axe it entirely. Absolutely. I think that's the most likely scenario right now. In a year from now, Fantasy may be completely dead.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:46
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Chill la Chill posted:Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu- someone just sold a $35 bastiladon on eBay and I missed it. Everyone else is still asking for $50. I just traded in some Magic cards that I haven't played with in years and traded the store credit for a bastiladon. I'm making it with the laser.
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Daedleh posted:look you guys, why do you keep going on about balance in KoW. balance is SO BORING Ah, the ever-present logical fallacy of "Balance=identical" and "perfect balance is impossible so why even try to balance at all?"
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Chill la Chill posted:Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu- someone just sold a $35 bastiladon on eBay and I missed it. Everyone else is still asking for $50. Oh yeah I forgot about this post. I have a saved search for "bastiladon" on eBay and I never saw a $35 one go bye. Was it misspelled or something? I have the high bid right now on a $40 one (don't outbid me you fuckers) but I don't expect to win because there's still three days left. e. If you're in europe this might be worth it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lizardmen-Bastiladon-Warhammer-Fantasy-NUOVO-/181765893192?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_101&hash=item2a52176c48 the shipping makes it not worth it for a US bidder. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 21:49
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FrostyPox posted:Ah, the ever-present logical fallacy of "Balance=identical" and "perfect balance is impossible so why even try to balance at all?" It's pretty amusing how you could put Warhammer balance grog next to D&D balance grog and without mention of either game it would be impossible to tell which is which.
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Jul 2, 2015 21:50
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Daedleh posted:KoW I think this might be old news, but it's probably new here for those wanting analogous KoW army lists quote:The following lists are in progress, waiting for background to be approved and with working titles
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Jul 2, 2015 21:50
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Daedleh posted:look you guys, why do you keep going on about balance in KoW. balance is SO BORING these are the people i'm looking forward to killing on the first turn with the 12 warmachine list "oh, you have more units than i do, i'm gonna do the 'kill that man' objective" *rotates entire army of cannons and organ guns to point at target*
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Jul 2, 2015 21:53
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Business Gorillas posted:these are the people i'm looking forward to killing on the first turn with the 12 warmachine list It's even easier than that.  "OK bro you have way more goblins than I have bloodthirsters. So I'm doing Endure. You just go ahead and take six turns in a row, I'll just sit here with my dudes in my deployment zone. Let me know when the game is over so I can declare victory."
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Jul 2, 2015 21:57
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Leperflesh posted:It's even easier than that. i dont have any bloodthirsters but i happen to have a large amount of artillery  edit: that loving endure one. is there any rule saying that you can't just play a regular game where you're outnumbered enough to pick hail marys, then say on the bottom of the 5th turn "IM CHOOSING ENDURE" when it becomes obvious your opponent can't table you?
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I think you have to pick sudden death objectives at the beginning of the game
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Jul 2, 2015 22:06
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I think the idea is that it's "sudden" cuz you achieve the objective then win no matter what, even if you were losing real bad before hand. But it is still really loving dumb as poo poo.
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Jul 2, 2015 22:07
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Also, looking at the WARSCROLLS, is every goddamn model Multiwound? Because that's insane.
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It's sudden death the same way sports games are sudden death: if you achieve the thing the game instantly ends with you as the victor. Endure isn't very sudden though but remember this game is supposed to be smaller and skirmishier and last for more than 6 turns, at least sometimes. Night10194 posted:Also, looking at the WARSCROLLS, is every goddamn model Multiwound? Because that's insane. Just the ones that come in the box set. I'm sure when we see the scrolls for all the old minis GW no longer wants us to care about, most of them will be one-wound. Having dozens of multiwound models on the board in a skirmish game is still loving stupid.
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Jul 2, 2015 22:14
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Leperflesh posted:Just the ones that come in the box set. I'm sure when we see the scrolls for all the old minis GW no longer wants us to care about, most of them will be one-wound. does anyone even want to take bets that the armies in the box are going to be blatantly overpowered compared to current WFB armies to try and goad people into spending money on them? if you're interested, just take your wager and mail it to me now, since you've already lost
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FrostyPox posted:What I'd theoretically worry about if I still gave a poo poo is the very real possibility that if AoS fails, GW will just go "I guess the world is no longer interested in Fantasy miniatures, let's just focus on our smash hit Sci-Fi line" and axe it entirely. That's not what you should worry about. What you should worry about is that AoS does okay and it becomes the model for Warhammer 40: Age of Emperor. 
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Mormon Star Wars posted:That's not what you should worry about. I'd laugh anyway cuz I don't play 40K either. I'd laugh and laugh. And probably cry a little, too, not gonna lie.
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Jul 2, 2015 22:45
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Leperflesh posted:It's not too late. After a total flop with Sigmarr (we'll see how that pans out), GW could reverse course and release a proper 9th edition. It's just not looking very likely right now. It could have been beautiful. 
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I don't buy that GW spent a year and a half on AoS. In fact I'd be surprised if anything beyond initial sculpts was complete when GW was working through the End Times material. They just don't have that much staff to dedicate to game design.
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All reports I've ever heard say that sculpts have a roughly two-year turnaround internally at GW, for whatever reason. Unless something has drastically changed, eighteen months sounds just about right to me.
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Jul 2, 2015 23:15
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Two years is ridiculous. I've seen numerous kickstarters go from drawings through greens to full production runs in under 12 months, and that's for tiny four-person shops that have to outsource everything. Even if 18 months for models is the norm at GW, it's tough for me to imagine them planning this at the same time they were releasing models for End Times that won't be usable in Sigmar. Not because they wouldn't do that to customers (they totally would) but because those end times models represent a big monetary investment in molds that are now quite unlikely to pay for themselves.
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Leperflesh posted:It's even easier than that. So I assume this means my 12 Hellcannon gunline will be immune to Instant Death. I... might actually make that out of How to Train Your Dragon cannons and Mantic Chaos Dwarves.
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Leperflesh posted:Two years is ridiculous. I've seen numerous kickstarters go from drawings through greens to full production runs in under 12 months, and that's for tiny four-person shops that have to outsource everything. yeah, i dont buy that this poo poo started before end times dropped. when did the new CEO take over?
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Full White Duardin issue is out. Also, holy loving poo poo are you kidding me? The Sigmarines are sporting loving monoposes in TYOOL 2015? Look at the frontmost ones on the cover and the assembly instructions for the free one.
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That GW gets a pass on, they're models from an introductory starter kit, the standard is make them easy to put together right out the box.Leperflesh posted:Two years is ridiculous. I've seen numerous kickstarters go from drawings through greens to full production runs in under 12 months, and that's for tiny four-person shops that have to outsource everything. Unless they used a different mold medium. There are molds that don't last near as long but only cost a tenth of the price of the multi-part hard plastic kits. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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its pretty hilarious that they decided to cut the board into sixths, since i'm pretty sure that's what the $400 board GW sells is. even the board layout reeks of "buy our overpriced poo poo or else this game is gonna be a huge hassle to play" edit: Rulebook Heavily posted:Also, holy loving poo poo are you kidding me? The Sigmarines are sporting loving monoposes in TYOOL 2015? Look at the frontmost ones on the cover and the assembly instructions for the free one.
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Jul 2, 2015 23:46
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Anactos Skyhelm, lord of the Skyhost
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So I'm reading this setting background. Sigmar is a thunder god. He reigns in Azyrheim. His army is composed of immortal, ever-regenerating warriors drawn from the ranks of dead mortal champions. There are nine worlds, and you travel between them using bridges of light. I'm Icelandic, I am generally tired of people haphazardly and lazily ripping off my cultural heritage for their games, and Warhammer has just jumped a loving shark right over my head while flipping me a twin-tailed bird. e: like gently caress this game I am straight up offended by this poo poo. This just crossed a line I didn't know I had. I know Norse myth isn't exactly sacred in game circles but jesus loving christ. Rulebook Heavily fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Bloodsecrator Threx Skullbrand GW go home you're drunk. EDIT: "Khogoraths live only to gorge upon skulls and fresh blood." 
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Anactos Skyhelm, lord of the Skyhost the Great Drake Dracothion
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found a video that pretty accurately shows what GW's business plan is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48
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Rulebook Heavily posted:So I'm reading this setting background. I understand, but you're aware Warhammer has been haphazardly ripping off cultural heritages for its entire existence, right? From the not-English Albion to the not-German Empire to the not-Egyptian Tomb Kings and the not-... well OK, outright Japanese Nippon, practically everything in the old Warhammer world was a case of a thin veneer stretched over poorly-researched historical cultures and peoples. Lots of folks rip off or just outright use the old norse pantheon, probably on the assumption that nobody still worships them in earnest so it shouldn't be offensive.
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The many names of AoS units and races: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY
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The goblins are called grots now. Age of Sigmor is Warhammer 40k confirmed.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Also, holy loving poo poo are you kidding me? The Sigmarines are sporting loving monoposes in TYOOL 2015? Look at the frontmost ones on the cover and the assembly instructions for the free one. As other pointed out, it's a starter set. Also, it's not like GW is the only one putting out monopose models: Warmachine, anvil 8, on the lamb, X-wing, etc so on. EDIT: Speaking of which, On the Lamb has a sale running http://on-the-lamb.com/shopping/ Endless Fantasy Tactics if fun and you should play it. Also, I promise they won't sigmar the setting! LordAba fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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"shooting attacks can be made in the shooting phase and melee attacks can be used in the melee phase" so not only can you shoot in melee, you're encouraged to edit: it also looks like you can shoot units you're not even in combat with, then go right back to fighting? what the gently caress?
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