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Well, looks like my power peaked at Drakenvale (strange name for a mountain) and started going down from there (White Mage/Mystic Knight/Geomancer/Samurai). The forest of Moore was just plain annoying as a result of the weak !Gaia commands, and both the guardians and Exdeath required !Zeninage abuse. I've made it into the third world, but my inability to use the best swords, sweet stolen equipment, dual wield, rapid fire, cheesy mixes or any magical nukes/summons is really slowing my damage output. I expect that my first set of legendary weapons, the Brave Sword and Holy should help turn this one around. The good news is that the next time I play a conventional run, I am going to feel like a god among men. What's the general third world policy for an FJF? Just grab the first seal plus holy and then storm the void? I just killed the Antlion, and my party's at level 34. Still no running from battle. Edit: so this is the part where I realised I had been playing the whole game like I was going to get the Brave Blade, but didn't actually have a character that can equip it.  A little knowledge...
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David Corbett posted:the Brave Sword Glossing over that the Brave Blade is stupid, you don't even have anyone that can equip it. 
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Jul 3, 2015 06:15
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Kyrosiris posted:Glossing over that the Brave Blade is stupid, you don't even have anyone that can equip it. I, uh, just realised that. Derp.
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Jul 3, 2015 06:18
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David Corbett posted:I, uh, just realised that. Derp. Get yoself a Chicken Knife, put Flare Spellblade on it, and watch the carnage. 
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Jul 3, 2015 06:20
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Kyrosiris posted:Get yoself a Chicken Knife, put Flare Spellblade on it, and watch the carnage. This is a much better plan. Now I just have to flee 255 times. With FFV's encounter rate, it should take no time at all 
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Jul 3, 2015 06:23
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David Corbett posted:This is a much better plan. Now I just have to flee 255 times. With FFV's encounter rate, it should take no time at all Don't forget Mister Goblin in the treasure chest in the Beginner's Club in Tule.
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Jul 3, 2015 06:24
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David Corbett posted:What's the general third world policy for an FJF? Just grab the first seal plus holy and then storm the void? I just killed the Antlion, and my party's at level 34. Still no running from battle. You need to finish the Island Shrine to get access to Fork Tower. I'd recommend it; Holy helps immensely.
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Jul 3, 2015 06:30
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The weirdest part of this run is seeing Lenna's animations instead of Bartz'.
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Jul 3, 2015 06:31
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David Corbett posted:What's the general third world policy for an FJF? Just grab the first seal plus holy and then storm the void? I just killed the Antlion, and my party's at level 34. Still no running from battle. Since you have a MK, you may want to do a quick dive into Istory Falls and grab the Enhancer(Assuming the Geomancer is rocking the Assassin Dagger for normal encounters) and Aegis Shield #2. If you happened to have killed the Treasure Goblin already and need to charge the Chicken Knife, roll up to floor 5 of Phoenix Tower and hitup the Magic Pot for easy runaways too. But yeah once you have Holy + legendary WM staff, and Flare Spellblade (and the ability to haste key members of your party via Muramasa if you dont use Hermes Sandals), your power goes back to something mildly impressive.
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Jul 3, 2015 06:45
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Renzuko posted:Quick question, now that my bartz has equip harps, should i just leave him as a berzerker for the rest of the game? should i swap him to blackmage to get !black and make the runic axe better? Yes, the higher the black magic level, the bigger a magic stat you get out of it. A high black magic level will help the Rune Axe, but Equip Harps will make your Berserker faster. Clearly you should leave the Berserker with Equip Harp and put the Rune Axe on your Black Mage. 
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Jul 3, 2015 06:48
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AGH WHAT THE loving gently caress! I have a berzerker, blackmage, chemist and bard, how the hell am i supposed to not die to the shield dragons in the sealed castle? edit wait...chemist...DEATH POTION TIME FOR SOME SAVESCUMMING SCIENCE!
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Jul 3, 2015 06:54
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Renzuko posted:AGH WHAT THE loving gently caress! I have a berzerker, blackmage, chemist and bard, how the hell am i supposed to not die to the shield dragons in the sealed castle? Run away from 'em Schwartzcough posted:Clearly you should leave the Berserker with Equip Harp and put the Rune Axe on your Black Mage. Have done this. It is as loving hilarious as it sounds.
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Kyrosiris posted:Run away from 'em I've been trying that, but everyone dies before i can run away, even with 3/4ths of the party equiped with elven mantles -edit after much, MUCH savescumming, I got away. so i've unlocked apollo's harp, and the runic axe. what is the third thing I should get? like I've said before im runnin bard/berzerker/blackmage/chemist -edit2 So, I went with apollo's harp, the rune axe and assassin's dagger. my berzerker has been sporting the death sickle since crescent world 1, what would be the best thing for him? Renzuko fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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Finished 7th run; got ridiculously easy at the end with Holy + Sage's Staff; Chicken Knife + Focus and a level-boosted monk. Buffed my party vs. Tree and then NED got off one Delta Attack and a physical attack that missed. Shinryuu knocked the Monk down a couple times but the Bard and Ranger were doing 13K combined each round. Omega just sat there listening to music while he was stabbed in the face repeatedly.
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Renzuko posted:I've been trying that, but everyone dies before i can run away, even with 3/4ths of the party equiped with elven mantles I think Equip Harps + Rune Axe is the way to go for the Berserker. Give the Bard the Assasin's Dagger if you're really, really want to hope for an Instant Death proc... switch the harp when you fight dragons and undead... which should be often since there's a mix (Dragon's Fang + Maiden's Kiss) that changes enemies to Dragon type, and the Apollo's Harp will then do massive damage to them. Definitely get the Magus Rod (boosts Black Mage's elemental spells) and Sage's Staff (free Revive for the Chemist) next. If you got the Aegis Shield in World 2, then you can go straight to the Rift after getting Flare (that is, if you have enough Coral Rings, Hermes Sandals and Reflect Rings for everyone) Mustard Iceman fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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Jul 3, 2015 08:18
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 My first time beating FF5! I had Black Mage/Berserker/Ranger/Samurai. Boy, NED didn't go down easy. No Omega/Shinryuu kill this time, unfortunately.
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First fiesta, haven't played this game in years and years. I've got monk, mystic knight, ninja, and dragoon. In world 2 now grinding in the Val basement. What stuff do I not want to miss out on? And have I over leveled a bit, I'm at level 40 across the board? My weapons seem pretty crappy and I don't have a good way to heal my guys up, help?
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plscks posted:First fiesta, haven't played this game in years and years. I've got monk, mystic knight, ninja, and dragoon. In world 2 now grinding in the Val basement. What stuff do I not want to miss out on? And have I over leveled a bit, I'm at level 40 across the board? My weapons seem pretty crappy and I don't have a good way to heal my guys up, help? Not much this party can miss out on; just make sure you have all the black magic spells for your mystic knight. Once you get a chance to buy Flame Rings, do that... then your MK can heal the party with Firaga Spellblade. If you're having a hard time, give everybody !Throw and spam Fire, Water or Lightning Scrolls. You should have enough cash to buy a ton of them now.
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Sir_Phobos posted:I'm having trouble with Omega right now. I've got Black Mage/Berserker/Ranger/Samurai, and it's been a great team up to this point, but I don't know how to deal with everything that Omega throws at you. Make the Berserker a Zombie and unequip the reflect ring, there should be a bug that triple reflected Thundaga + 1 person being hit by it won't trigger his counter script.
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Well, it happened again. I promised that I wouldn't fall for the Speed Trap, but come on, if I'm stuck with a Thief, I've got to go fast. Is it just me, or does Two-Handed make a lot of fights super easy? I had two knights and a blue mage all wailing away with Coral Swords on the Soul Cannon and it didn't get a chance to fire once.
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Blastinus posted:Well, it happened again. I promised that I wouldn't fall for the Speed Trap, but come on, if I'm stuck with a Thief, I've got to go fast. I fall for that speed trap a minimum of once. Even the three times I rolled geomancer because of speed-up.
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zolthorg posted:I fall for that speed trap a minimum of once. Even the three times I rolled geomancer because of speed-up. The speed trap doesn't respect Geomancer. Specifically Geomancer can't do a drat thing if the hole is visible before you run your face over it.
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Jul 3, 2015 10:54
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Nethertribes posted:The speed trap doesn't respect Geomancer. It is not visible the first time you walk in that room, how could you be so silly and spread such lies. 
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Jul 3, 2015 10:58
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zolthorg posted:It is not visible the first time you walk in that room, how could you be so silly and spread such lies. I'm certain you're talking about a different hole, cause  is the one I'm talking about.
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Nethertribes posted:I'm certain you're talking about a different hole, cause What hole?
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Minrad posted:What hole?
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What do I look like, some sort of Geomancer-having nerd? I'm not paid enough to be a hole-recorder.
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 First triple crown! I was actually pretty under levelled too, 29 I think? Chicken dances weren't even hitting 9999.   
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I think the Brave Blade is a fine weapon, it's only stupid because FFV has several horribly strong monsters that you're meant to run away from to survive.
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The Brave Blade is stupid because it's already weaker than the Chicken Knife presuming a fair comparison of both at max power, requires you to never run away or it gets irrevocably weaker to the point of being actively useless and it can be used by a grand total of 1 classes (Knight) who has better weapons anyway.
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Presumably, the Brave Blade / Chicken Knife choice is another one of those first-time player traps. Because honestly, which one sounds cooler to have? If they really wanted it to be an even choice, they'd make it a normal sword instead of a knight sword, and have it start off with a few more points to bring it even with the Chicken Knife's damage modifiers.
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zolthorg posted:Make the Berserker a Zombie and unequip the reflect ring, there should be a bug that triple reflected Thundaga + 1 person being hit by it won't trigger his counter script. I just tried this, and you're right, it totally works! But I can't seem to kill him before he uses Surge Beam twice and wipes out my party. Oh well!
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Kyrosiris posted:Pictures of the Treasure Obtained: Omega Seal screen are fine. drat right they are.  
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Sir_Phobos posted:I just tried this, and you're right, it totally works! But I can't seem to kill him before he uses Surge Beam twice and wipes out my party. Oh well! Try giving the Samurai the Aegis Shield to get an extra turn and or using them to toss an elixir or two, I forget if corpses can still reflect ring spells or not. You can also try farming an extra bone mail (but this makes them weak to fire so they need a flame shield) or a lamia tiara for the black mage (hat that prevents confusion) You can also try prepping the Magic Lamp and the Wonder Wand with different things if you really want the crown. Magic Lamp could have Carbuncle allowing you to use the flame rings and directly attacking omega to heal a bit, or sylph for a pittance heal that might be just enough, or Phoenix if you can get situations where the Samurai (Flame Shield) survives past the 4th turn but the other two die No clue what spell would work best on the wonder rod, maybe attack omega with it set to regen and reset until it reflects onto the samurai? Or go with a flame ring aegis shield samurai and use it to reflect Reflect onto the samurai. Or Shell to reduce magic /status hitrates Whatever you do if you manage to do this i'd emulator record it or gooncam record it as it sounds like a legendary battle with the RNG zolthorg fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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Sooo I am at Omniscient with Ninja/Thief/Samurai and trying the strat someone recommended to me, which is Mage Masher proc + Zeninage, Zeninage. I have everyone on Hermes Sandals and after like 20 tries Silence did stick twice, so that's okaaay, I guess, BUT - I literally do not have enough time to input even one Zeninage until Omniscient casts Return again, which is really weird to me. I am on Android; is that possibly something they just "fixed"? I don't understand why he even keeps casting Return after the first three attempts (Mage Masher + Twin Lance hit)...at least my first Zeninage should hit, right?
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Simply Simon posted:Sooo I am at Omniscient with Ninja/Thief/Samurai and trying the strat someone recommended to me, which is Mage Masher proc + Zeninage, Zeninage. I have everyone on Hermes Sandals and after like 20 tries Silence did stick twice, so that's okaaay, I guess, BUT - I literally do not have enough time to input even one Zeninage until Omniscient casts Return again, which is really weird to me. Go into your options and greatly lower your battle speed, should make statuses and things stick for longer. Although on IOS/Android the heavy flag might make it super hard to stick any status to a boss.
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Weird, I just managed to land a Blessed Kiss on Omega. I thought the GBA version was supposed to fix that bug. Ah well, can't complain about an easy victory.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Weird, I just managed to land a Blessed Kiss on Omega. I thought the GBA version was supposed to fix that bug. Nope. In fact, all they did was give Tree Exdeath a specific counter measure to Blessed Kiss. Still works on anyone else.
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zolthorg posted:Go into your options and greatly lower your battle speed, should make statuses and things stick for longer. Although on IOS/Android the heavy flag might make it super hard to stick any status to a boss. ... I literally spent my entire money on Hermes Sandals and Rings  . God drat it!
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Dragonatrix posted:The Brave Blade is stupid because it's already weaker than the Chicken Knife presuming a fair comparison of both at max power, requires you to never run away or it gets irrevocably weaker to the point of being actively useless and it can be used by a grand total of 1 classes (Knight) who has better weapons anyway. Such as?
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