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Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.
Have IPA's even made it east of Denver?

Edit: poo poo, new page. Yes this is a joke.

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bpower
Feb 19, 2011
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/03/hispanic-leaders-republican-candidates-condemn-donald-trump

This is perfect.


quote:

Hispanic leaders are warning of harm to Republican White House hopes unless the party’s presidential contenders do more to condemn Donald Trump, the businessman turned presidential candidate who is refusing to apologise for calling Mexican immigrants rapists and drug dealers.


Trump’s comments, delivered in his announcement speech last month, have haunted the GOP for much of the last two weeks and dominated Spanish-language media. It is bad timing for a Republican Party that has invested significantly in Hispanic outreach in recent years, given the surging influence of the minority vote.

Yet several Republican candidates have avoided the issue altogether, while those who have weighed in have declined to criticise Trump as strongly as many Hispanic leaders would like.

“The time has come for the candidates to distance themselves from Trump and call his comments what they are: ludicrous, baseless and insulting,” said Alfonso Aguilar, a Republican who leads the American Principles Project’s Latino Partnership.

“Sadly, it hurts the party with Hispanic voters. It’s a level of idiocy I haven’t seen in a long time.”

The political and practical Trump-related fallout has intensified in recent days. The leading Hispanic television network, Univision, has backed out of televising the Miss USA pageant, a joint venture between Trump and NBC, which also cut ties with Trump. On Wednesday, the Macy’s department store chain, which carried a Donald Trump menswear line, said it was ending its relationship with him. Other retailers are facing pressure to follow suit.

The reaction from Republican presidential candidates, however, has often been far less aggressive.

In a recent interview on Fox News, conservative firebrand Ted Cruz said Trump should not apologise.

“I like Donald Trump,” said Cruz, a Texas senator who is Hispanic. “I think he’s terrific. I think he’s brash. I think he speaks the truth. And I think that NBC is engaging in political correctness that is silly and that is wrong.”

The former Florida governor Jeb Bush said simply that Trump was “wrong”.

“Maybe we’ll have a chance to have an honest discussion about it on stage,” Bush said last weekend while campaigning in Nevada.

New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who often talks about his re-election margins with Latino voters, called Trump’s comments “wholly inappropriate” during a news conference. In a subsequent radio interview, Christie described Trump as “a really wonderful guy [who’s] always been a good friend.”

Florida senator Marco Rubio, silent on the issue for more than two weeks, took a more pointed tone in a statement Thursday evening.

“Trump’s comments are not just offensive and inaccurate, but also divisive,” said Rubio, whose parents came to the US from Cuba. “Our next president needs to be someone who brings Americans together – not someone who continues to divide.”

Former Texas governor Rick Perry said on Thursday: “I don’t think Donald Trump’s remarks reflect the Republican Party.”

Among others, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, former technology executive Carly Fiorina and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson have been silent.


“We’re listening very, very closely, not just what candidates say but what they don’t say – the sins of commission and the sins of omission,” said Reverend Gabriel Salguero, president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition, who called Trump’s comments “xenophobic rhetoric”.

Trump is showing no sign of backing down.

“My statements have been contorted to seem racist and discriminatory,” he wrote in a message to supporters on Thursday. “What I want is for legal immigrants to not be unfairly punished because others are coming into America illegally, flooding the labor market and not paying taxes.”

“You can count on me to keep fighting,” he continued.

In his announcement speech, Trump said Mexican immigrants were “bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Such rhetoric resonates with some of the Republican Party’s most passionate voters, who have long viewed illegal immigration as one of the nation’s most pressing problems. Yet GOP leaders have urged conservatives to adopt a more welcoming tone in recent years, as Hispanic voters have increasingly sided with Democrats.

Not since the 2004 re-election campaign of President George W Bush has a Republican presidential candidate earned as much as 40% of the Hispanic vote. Mitt Romney got a dismal 27% in the 2012 contest against President Barack Obama.

Leading Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton cast Trump’s remarks as “emblematic” of a larger perception within the Republican Party.

“A recent entry into the Republican presidential campaign said some very inflammatory things about Mexican immigrants,” she said in an interview last month. “Everyone should stand up and say that’s not acceptable.”

Meanwhile, the attention has helped Trump sell some books. Trump: The Art of the Deal, first published in 1987, and a release from 2007, Think Big and Kick rear end in Business and Life, were both in the top 2,000 on Amazon.com’s best-seller list as of midday Thursday.

Rasczak
Mar 30, 2005

Joementum posted:

Photographic evidence from May that Jeb! is a flip-flopper, liar, and diet cheat.



Ehhhh if I was on a diet I wouldn't drink Bud Light anyway, all of the garbage produced by Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors has poo poo like GMOs and high fructose corn syrup in it. I wonder if it would be unpatriotic to drink a craft beer or bourbon or something.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

How loving hilarious would it be if Donald Trump, of all loving people, ends up being the one to turn Texas Blue?

We're a long rear end way away from there, but it would definitely be yooge, classy, and magnificent.

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

Pohl posted:

Have IPA's even made it east of Denver?

Edit: poo poo, new page. Yes this is a joke.

Ted Cruz's face permanently looks like he just tried a triple IPA after drinking Bud Light his whole life.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Rasczak posted:

Ehhhh if I was on a diet I wouldn't drink Bud Light anyway, all of the garbage produced by Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors has poo poo like GMOs and high fructose corn syrup in it. I wonder if it would be unpatriotic to drink a craft beer or bourbon or something.

If bourbon is unpatriotic, someone better tell the Paul campaign! They auctioned off a bottle at the Maryland GOP conference.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Pohl posted:

Have IPA's even made it east of Denver?

Edit: poo poo, new page. Yes this is a joke.

Some say even as far east as India!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Rasczak posted:

Ehhhh if I was on a diet I wouldn't drink Bud Light anyway, all of the garbage produced by Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors has poo poo like GMOs and high fructose corn syrup in it. I wonder if it would be unpatriotic to drink a craft beer or bourbon or something.

Bourbon is the official spirit of America.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Joementum posted:

If bourbon is unpatriotic, someone better tell the Paul campaign! They auctioned off a bottle at the Maryland GOP conference.



Whisky is unpatriotic. Never forget the Whiskey Rebellion!

STATES RIGHTS, BITCHES!

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Joementum posted:

If bourbon is unpatriotic, someone better tell the Paul campaign! They auctioned off a bottle at the Maryland GOP conference.



... Eagle Run?

Like, it's good quality, don't get me wrong. But an auction? They serve that stuff at the bar I go to for like 6 a pour.

(Also do not gently caress with a Kentuckian's bourbon, IDC if he's a Paul or not)

e: oh my bad, that's the high octane stuff. Still I can't imagine it's that much more expensive, maybe an order of magnitude of multiple :10bux:

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

Chokes McGee posted:

... Eagle Run?

Like, it's good quality, don't get me wrong. But an auction? They serve that stuff at the bar I go to for like 6 a pour.

(Also do not gently caress with a Kentuckian's bourbon, IDC if he's a Paul or not)

e: oh my bad, that's the high octane stuff. Still I can't imagine it's that much more expensive, maybe an order of magnitude of multiple :10bux:

Eagle rare. Depending on year it can get moderately pricey, 500+

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

The X-man cometh posted:

People forget that Bernie's been in Congress since 1991, longer than the Clintons (or Obama) have been in DC, so he has plenty of experience and connections. I believe he has a good reputation with his colleagues as well.

He'll also appoint plenty of experienced people to his Cabinet and other positions, so things will get done. It won't be as easy as it would be for Hillary, but since he's a white man, he'll have an easier time than Obama did.

So working for him isn't a futile decision, it's more risky, but it isn't crazy. Working for the moderate O'Malley is much more ridiculous.

Edit: During his House career, Bernie passed more floor amendments than any other member, so he knows how to work the system.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071114174825/http://bernie.org/?p=53

Ok that's encouraging. Thanks.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

"So you can remember why you're drinking."

De Nomolos
Jan 17, 2007

TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine
All I see is Bush choosing UNION MADE beer. Checkmate libtards.

Great_Gerbil
Sep 1, 2006
Rhombomys opimus

THE loving MOON posted:

He might be the Republicans Id, but I think he's in to feed his own ego. The guy's a clown with no chance, but he's a clown that really, sincerely, wants to be president.

Monsters, Jeb!. Monsters from the Id.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

THE loving MOON posted:

He might be the Republicans Id, but I think he's in to feed his own ego. The guy's a clown with no chance, but he's a clown that really, sincerely, wants to be president.

Unlike the rest of the field, who Cincinnatus-like deign to serve, though reluctantly. And if through acclamation the civic crown is placed on their brow, well. One must not fail to answer.

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

tsa posted:

Eagle rare. Depending on year it can get moderately pricey, 500+

That particular bottle is $30 retail, however.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
It is uncomfortable when people say Jeb Bush. That's like saying John Ellis Bush Bush and it's irritating.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

a shameful boehner posted:

It is uncomfortable when people say Jeb Bush. That's like saying John Ellis Bush Bush and it's irritating.

atm machine

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

a shameful boehner posted:

It is uncomfortable when people say Jeb Bush. That's like saying John Ellis Bush Bush and it's irritating.

GOB Bluth.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard


thx obama???

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
So everything that's happened recently has made it seem clear Rubio's winning the nomination. Bush just has too much baggage, and for whatever reason his campaign's not really on the ball. Walker looks like a giant goober. Rubio is reasonably good-looking, has decent political instincts, the moneymen like him, etc. I don't honestly see how he loses, and although Clinton will beat him, Democrats need someone other than him as an opponent to make a wave election happen and take back the Senate.

Is this an accurate assessment of things?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

a shameful boehner posted:

It is uncomfortable when people say Jeb Bush. That's like saying John Ellis Bush Bush and it's irritating.

You're in luck: Tom Tomorrow wants to get your goat!

bpower
Feb 19, 2011

Spatula City posted:

So everything that's happened recently has made it seem clear Rubio's winning the nomination. Bush just has too much baggage, and for whatever reason his campaign's not really on the ball. Walker looks like a giant goober. Rubio is reasonably good-looking, has decent political instincts, the moneymen like him, etc. I don't honestly see how he loses, and although Clinton will beat him, Democrats need someone other than him as an opponent to make a wave election happen and take back the Senate.

Is this an accurate assessment of things?

I wonder how he'll handle the debate crowd cheering when the Donald says immigrants are diseased rapists.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Spatula City posted:

Is this an accurate assessment of things?

Not really, but only because it's July 2015 and still far too early to know how things are going to shake out. Some things we do know: Hillary is going to be the Democratic nominee, Donald Trump is not going to be the Republican nominee. But at this time in 2011 we were still over a month away from Rick Perry declaring his candidacy and it was widely assumed that when he did he'd be a serious rival for Romney. This time in 2007 it was obvious that Giuliani and Hillary would be facing off in the general election. In 2003 people were wondering if Wesley Clark could topple the Dean machine.

I still think the Republican nomination is a three-way race between Jeb!, Rubio, and Walker, with each of them having made mis-steps already, and all having some early advantages. I'd say each has about a 30% chance of winning the nomination, with the remaining 10% divided between long shots Rand, Perry, and Huckabee.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


[ ] Gay's insulting Southern sacrifice
[ ] Cuban Terror Schools a.k.a. "embassies"
[ ] Soft on Mexican rapists

Great_Gerbil
Sep 1, 2006
Rhombomys opimus

Joementum posted:

Not really, but only because it's July 2015 and still far too early to know how things are going to shake out. Some things we do know: Hillary is going to be the Democratic nominee, Donald Trump is not going to be the Republican nominee. But at this time in 2011 we were still over a month away from Rick Perry declaring his candidacy and it was widely assumed that when he did he'd be a serious rival for Romney. This time in 2007 it was obvious that Giuliani and Hillary would be facing off in the general election. In 2003 people were wondering if Wesley Clark could topple the Dean machine.

I still think the Republican nomination is a three-way race between Jeb!, Rubio, and Walker, with each of them having made mis-steps already, and all having some early advantages. I'd say each has about a 30% chance of winning the nomination, with the remaining 10% divided between long shots Rand, Perry, and Huckabee.

Rubio is really the only candidate that gives me serious shivers among the Republican field. I feel like his ability to leverage his youth is an advantage.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Absurd Alhazred posted:

You're in luck: Tom Tomorrow wants to get your goat!



Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

I love that without the Jeb! watermark, there's absolutely no way to tell if this is a conservative or liberal creation. In fact, I didn't see the Jeb! at the bottom at first and was surprised that they were that close to a deal with Iran.

Great_Gerbil posted:

Rubio is really the only candidate that gives me serious shivers among the Republican field. I feel like his ability to leverage his youth is an advantage.

On the other hand, desperately lunging for water is not considered a viable debate strategy.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

O....kay? Since a majority of the country supports normalization with Cuba and I have a feeling a majority would also support a nuclear deal with Iran, why are they doing this?

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Alter Ego posted:

O....kay? Since a majority of the country supports normalization with Cuba and I have a feeling a majority would also support a nuclear deal with Iran, why are they doing this?

A majority of the country aren't the Republican Primary electorate.

Solid Poopsnake
Mar 27, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost


I see a lot of dick pics in SKW's future.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Great_Gerbil posted:

Rubio is really the only candidate that gives me serious shivers among the Republican field. I feel like his ability to leverage his youth is an advantage.
It is pretty true that both the probable Democratic candidate and the only present challenger are old white people.

Is Rubio the prick who said that people in Gen-X/millenial clades will have to make the noble sacrifice of paying for our elders' social security and getting none ourselves? (Instead of, you know, increasing the payroll tax limit.)

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Gyges posted:

I love that without the Jeb! watermark, there's absolutely no way to tell if this is a conservative or liberal creation. In fact, I didn't see the Jeb! at the bottom at first and was surprised that they were that close to a deal with Iran.


On the other hand, desperately lunging for water is not considered a viable debate strategy.

As someone with a bad case of cottonmouth, I feel bad that the water thing will forever be Rubio's defining moment. It's not fun

Too bad his polices suck

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Solid Poopsnake posted:



I see a lot of dick pics in SKW's future.

That poor intern...

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Great_Gerbil posted:

Rubio is really the only candidate that gives me serious shivers among the Republican field. I feel like his ability to leverage his youth is an advantage.

I've not seen evidence that he can actually do this, especially since he went on his anti-Cuba tirade earlier.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 22, 2016

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Dr. Tough posted:

That particular bottle is $30 retail, however.

The Rand Paul signature gotta be worth at least 3 bitcoins though.

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The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
BYOB is exposing some dangerous truths about Mike Huckabee.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729339

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