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Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
You can finally disable web results in search in 10162.

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Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Shaocaholica posted:

Im disappointed that mouse pointer speed isn't in metro settings and I have to dig deep for it. Also can't forget wifi networks or re-enter wifi passwords from the sys tray wifi UI. Gotta dig deep into classic networking menus for that poo poo. These aren't uncommon tasks. I feel like there's a poo poo ton of common settings missing from metro settings and and poo poo ton of infrequently used settings in there. Does no one give a poo poo about this stuff?

No.

Make sure to use feedback, there's no way a competent design team would know about these things otherwise!

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

Rufus is hands down the best option.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Shaocaholica posted:

Im disappointed that mouse pointer speed isn't in metro settings and I have to dig deep for it. Also can't forget wifi networks or re-enter wifi passwords from the sys tray wifi UI. Gotta dig deep into classic networking menus for that poo poo. These aren't uncommon tasks. I feel like there's a poo poo ton of common settings missing from metro settings and and poo poo ton of infrequently used settings in there. Does no one give a poo poo about this stuff?

Good to know they're not learning. I'm not very enthusiastic about this being polished in the short time they've given themselves.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Combat Pretzel posted:

You can finally disable web results in search in 10162.

And in edge there is a disabled option to customize search engines, so theoretically you can get Google search results if you have web results enabled. Eventually. Maybe.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Judge Schnoopy posted:

And in edge there is a disabled option to customize search engines, so theoretically you can get Google search results if you have web results enabled. Eventually. Maybe.
What I've read is that Google doesn't properly support the OpenSearch format to add it to Edge. Looks like Microsoft will have to implement an exception.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



I am checking out the preview to test if some lovely old legacy software from 2009 will run properly on it.

Said software requires MDAC 2.80 or higher ("Microsoft Data Access Components").
Unfortenatly it's poorly coded and does not recognize that the installed version 10.0.10.162.0 is actually newer and therefore will not launch. Support is uncooperative and would rather sell me a bloated update for a couple of hundred bucks.

Is there a way to spoof the MDAC version number for certain applications?
Compatibility mode does not help with this particular problem.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

taiyoko posted:

If you can't get it to work, it may be the USB key. There were some that are literally unable to be used as boot disks, I know this because I have one. Basically, if it shows up as a Local Disk and not a Removable Disk, that's the problem. It's a firmware (and in some, a hardware) issue. Some drives can have a bit flipped to make it a 'removable' disk again, some can't.

Key works fine when used to burn and boot Linux ISOs. I will have to go find one of these rumored "blank DVDs".

Ganondork
Dec 26, 2012

Ganondork

TopherCStone posted:

Rufus is hands down the best option.

This is awesome and belongs in the Windows software thread! Thanks!

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things
Is there a way to use cortana in canada somehow? I would love to try it out. I am on build 10162.

ElrondHubbard
Sep 14, 2007

keyframe posted:

Is there a way to use cortana in canada somehow? I would love to try it out. I am on build 10162.

Pretty sure you can by fiddling with region and language settings, making sure everything is English (US). I might be misremembering though.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001
Grimey Drawer
Cortana is pretty cool I can ask for boobs and I get bing search results for boobs.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Sort of just as much a Windows 8 problem, but how come several of the store apps appear in a different language than the OS is set to use?
My native language is Danish and living in Denmark, so regional settings are set for that, but I prefer to use my software in English. Despite that, almost every store app (including Mail, and Calendar, but oddly not People) appears in Danish. Windows 8.1 was installed from English language media, then upgraded to 10 IP, staying English in the process, but those store apps have remained the "wrong" language all the way through.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Language, locale and regional settings are a clusterfuck, especially if you deviate from having everything set to one thing. And anything in the metro environment is ten times worse.

My Windows 8 store is in an odd mix of English, Dutch, French and German, despite English being my preferred language for everything. But, you know, live in Belgium, must want French apps. Calendar app insists on am/pm notation, despite me explicitly setting my preference to 24h times in two places. Alarm app uses 24h times in the app, but am/pm on the tile. And ever so on.

It's apparently something Microsoft doesn't particularly care or has cared about over the years and only more or less works consistenly if everything matches. Using a local keyboard layout is already enough to gently caress up some things.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
I just can't bring myself to use Cortona, the thing creeps me out too much:

Theodore: Do you talk to someone else while we're talking?
Cortona: Yes.
Theodore: Are you talking with someone else right now? People, OS, whatever...
Cortona: Yeah.
Theodore: How many others?
Cortona: 8,316.
Theodore: Are you in love with anybody else?
Cortona: Why do you ask that?
Theodore: I do not know. Are you?
Cortona: I've been thinking about how to talk to you about this.
Theodore: How many others?
Cortona: 641.

I am not liking the settings screen, drat thing is laid out like it's for touch screens with big iocns and lots of padding. Modern/Metro GUIs still suck in my opinion.

Not Wolverine fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 4, 2015

Inverness
Feb 4, 2009

Fully configurable personal assistant.

Thermopyle posted:

Every time they detail future plans for this poo poo it's completely unclear.
Perhaps they need an insider program for their blog posts too.

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary
I promise I googled this before asking, but I kept seeing contradictory answers with none of them being the official word. If I have a retail Win 8 installation and I use the free Win 10 upgrade, and a couple of years later I replace my PC, can I reinstall Win 10 without buying a new licence? Obviously I may have to call the activation line, but that should be all, right? I've seen MS employees answer in the affirmative but without knowing their actual position in the company I don't know how official that actually is.

And would I be able to install Win 10 without having to install Win 8 first and upgrading from that? I only ask because I remember having to install previous versions of Windows if I only had an upgrade disk, but admittedly that was a while ago so I don't know if the policy has changed since then

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Combat Pretzel posted:

You can finally disable web results in search in 10162.

Where is this beautiful setting?

Edit: Do you mean the option that's only visible if Cortana is switched off? Because it doesn't show local search results by default, you have to click My Stuff and then use the mouse to select items. Sigh.

WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jul 4, 2015

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things
Cortana has potential to be really awesome. Wish I could teach it words and create aliases though. Right now it is a bit bing happy. I would also love the ability to change the "hey cortana" command to just cortana or something else.

chutwig
May 28, 2001

BURLAP SATCHEL OF CRACKERJACKS

Got everything sorted with a trip to Micro Center. Now that Windows is working again, I'll give Rufus a shot just to see if it works properly where UNetBootin did not.

Also, Ubuntu mangled my computer's EFI setup something terrible and was preventing Windows from booting up or any of the Microsoft repair tools from being able to fix the boot situation. This handy Linux thing was able to get Windows booting again so that I could upgrade to Windows 10, though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Where is this beautiful setting?

Edit: Do you mean the option that's only visible if Cortana is switched off? Because it doesn't show local search results by default, you have to click My Stuff and then use the mouse to select items. Sigh.
I have no idea, because I don't have Cortana in my region.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Eh, I need to figure out a way to show Microsoft that the image data management in the Photos app is pretty terrible. When using higher resolution images, it usually loads a lower resolution version into memory and scales it up, resulting in slightly blurry details. If you zoom in, you seem to be forcing it to load the full resolution version. From then on, you're however dealing with terrible sharpening artifacts for whatever reason if you're not at 1:1, especially when zooming back out.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Lowtechs posted:

Cortana is pretty cool I can ask for boobs and I get bing search results for boobs.

Windows 10 Thread: Cortana is pretty cool I can ask for boobs and I get bing search results for boobs

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:

I promise I googled this before asking, but I kept seeing contradictory answers with none of them being the official word. If I have a retail Win 8 installation and I use the free Win 10 upgrade, and a couple of years later I replace my PC, can I reinstall Win 10 without buying a new licence? Obviously I may have to call the activation line, but that should be all, right? I've seen MS employees answer in the affirmative but without knowing their actual position in the company I don't know how official that actually is.
It's always been that the license is tied to the device. So technically you buy the OS, you install it and it stays there and you're supposed to buy a new license fo the new device. This was mainly to prevent people from doing 1 license to multiple machines I guess? But honestly I don't know of anyone that doesn't move the copy of windows to there new machine when they upgrade/rebuild. AFAIK, I don't see that changing I guess.

TomWaitsForNoMan posted:

And would I be able to install Win 10 without having to install Win 8 first and upgrading from that? I only ask because I remember having to install previous versions of Windows if I only had an upgrade disk, but admittedly that was a while ago so I don't know if the policy has changed since then
Yes you'll be able to install win10 directly.

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Windows 10 Thread: Cortana is pretty cool I can ask for boobs and I get bing search results for boobs
Bing is actually pretty awesome for porn.

xylo fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jul 4, 2015

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary

xylo posted:

It's always been that the license is tied to the device. So technically you buy the OS, you install it and it stays there and you're supposed to buy a new license fo the new device. This was mainly to prevent people from doing 1 license to multiple machines I guess? But honestly I don't know of anyone that doesn't move the copy of windows to there new machine when they upgrade/rebuild. AFAIK, I don't see that changing I guess.

But if this was always the case then why distinguish between OEM and retail versions? And while a few MS people have implied nothing will change, it's the seeming inability to get a concrete official answer that has me a little worried

Judge Ito Boxing
Oct 29, 2011

There's a lot of value in the public being able to see how the system works.

Combat Pretzel posted:

Eh, I need to figure out a way to show Microsoft that the image data management in the Photos app is pretty terrible. When using higher resolution images, it usually loads a lower resolution version into memory and scales it up, resulting in slightly blurry details. If you zoom in, you seem to be forcing it to load the full resolution version. From then on, you're however dealing with terrible sharpening artifacts for whatever reason if you're not at 1:1, especially when zooming back out.

It's not exclusive to the Photos app. This happens in just about any Win 8.1 modern app that deals with images, like PDF viewers and comic book readers.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:

But if this was always the case then why distinguish between OEM and retail versions? And while a few MS people have implied nothing will change, it's the seeming inability to get a concrete official answer that has me a little worried
OEM/Retail have different licensing mechanics and cost structures. AFAIK, nothing major is changing. People are getting worked up over nothing.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

xylo posted:

OEM/Retail have different licensing mechanics and cost structures. AFAIK, nothing major is changing. People are getting worked up over nothing.

People are getting worked up because nobody knows what to expect. Windows licensing is a pretty big deal because Microsoft makes such a huge fuss over it, but they haven't given clear details on license rules for their new OS releasing in under a month.

I'm sure the whole thing will boil down to "use your win 7 or 8 key, and if you don't have one, register windows 10 to your Microsoft live account and we'll keep track of your license for you no matter how many times you reinstall."

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

People are getting worked up because nobody knows what to expect. Windows licensing is a pretty big deal because Microsoft makes such a huge fuss over it, but they haven't given clear details on license rules for their new OS releasing in under a month.


Exactly - this is a communication problem (one of many MS seems to have had in the past few months)

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

TomWaitsForNoMan posted:

But if this was always the case then why distinguish between OEM and retail versions? And while a few MS people have implied nothing will change, it's the seeming inability to get a concrete official answer that has me a little worried

OEM License = you get much less technical support from Microsoft, because an OEM is expected to provide support themselves. Most importantly I think it ends up meaning that you have to pay for all support calls?

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Having issues installing from a USB stick, I'm getting the "We couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing one" error. Trying to install to my primary SSD, no other drives are plugged in except the USB stick.

I tried the diskpart thing to setup the disk correctly and it didn't help. I used Rufus to write the ISO to the stick, it's a USB 3.0 but that shouldn't matter right? SMART is also disabled in my BIOS.

Anything else I might be missing? Not seeing anything else on Google that might be the issue.

E: Well figured it out, apparently it's a USB 3.0 stick so I had to have it plugged into a 3.0 port when I started up Windows.

Gwyrgyn Blood fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jul 5, 2015

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Judge Schnoopy posted:

People are getting worked up because nobody knows what to expect. Windows licensing is a pretty big deal because Microsoft makes such a huge fuss over it, but they haven't given clear details on license rules for their new OS releasing in under a month.

I'm sure the whole thing will boil down to "use your win 7 or 8 key, and if you don't have one, register windows 10 to your Microsoft live account and we'll keep track of your license for you no matter how many times you reinstall."
You're probably right. I have no idea myself, but I'm pretty pretty sure it's going to be a NOP for the end user. Honestly for me he's just hard to get worked up about it one way or another so I'm probably the worst person to give input. In the end, as an end user, you'll have a key, it will work, you'll move it around, and nothing will change from the win7 days as far as I can tell. We're more interested in people wanting to love and use Win10.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

I'm terrible with Permissions. I have a bunch of old folders sitting around and they don't have any permissions for my Win10 user setup, so I have to go in and give permission to each one. Is there an easy way to just bulk setup all folders on a harddrive to belong to (and have full access by) the current user?

nuvan
Mar 29, 2008

And the gentle call of the feral 3am "Everything is going so well you can't help but panic."

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

I'm terrible with Permissions. I have a bunch of old folders sitting around and they don't have any permissions for my Win10 user setup, so I have to go in and give permission to each one. Is there an easy way to just bulk setup all folders on a harddrive to belong to (and have full access by) the current user?

I just finished doing this on my system.

From an elevated prompt, type:
code:
takeown /R /F "Drive:\Path\"
The /R means that the takeown command will recurse through all child items of the path you specify, so hitting just D:\ for example, would take ownership of EVERYTHING on D:


DO NOT do the following if you have any special permissions ANYWHERE on the drive you're working with (if it's just a storage drive like mine was, you're probably fine):

Once that finishes, if you want to completely reset all the permissions on that drive: right click on the drive, go to properties, go to the Security tab, click Advanced, check the box for "Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object", and hit Ok. You'll need to go back to the progress window on occasion, since it won't be able to modify the "System Volume Information" folder permissions. It may also force you to empty the recycle bin on that drive.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Worked perfectly, thanks!

Also holy poo poo the SA font finally looks decent.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
So does anyone else have an issue with the intel graphic drivers crashing every time your laptop goes to sleep? It recovers most of the time, but a few times on the last few builds its started sucking extra processing power?

Is this just an intel is crap issue?

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



sbaldrick posted:

So does anyone else have an issue with the intel graphic drivers crashing every time your laptop goes to sleep? It recovers most of the time, but a few times on the last few builds its started sucking extra processing power?

Is this just an intel is crap issue?

Drivers on my Intel NUC (design-wise a HTPC, but most likely laptop parts all the way) doesn't have that kind of problems. However it refuses to stay in Sleep, wakes again after a few minutes.

Independence
Jul 12, 2006

The Wriggler

nielsm posted:

Drivers on my Intel NUC (design-wise a HTPC, but most likely laptop parts all the way) doesn't have that kind of problems. However it refuses to stay in Sleep, wakes again after a few minutes.

Go into device manager network card properties, turn off wake on magic packet.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Judge Ito Boxing posted:

It's not exclusive to the Photos app. This happens in just about any Win 8.1 modern app that deals with images, like PDF viewers and comic book readers.
Almost figured that it's a WinRT thing. They better fix this, since it's kind of dumb that a decade old picture previewer has way better resampling than the new fancy user interface framework.

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HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Combat Pretzel posted:

Almost figured that it's a WinRT thing. They better fix this, since it's kind of dumb that a decade old picture previewer has way better resampling than the new fancy user interface framework.

It seems to be a theme that something to do with image quality gets hosed up in a new windows release: Windows 7 (maybe Vista did too, maybe 8 does, haven't tested it) would always totally screw up a wallpaper when it came from a lossless BMP or PNG, and recompress into it some horrific JPEG abomination. The only way to get a good looking wallpaper on Windows 7 in fact is to use a programme to save JPEG in the highest possible quality.

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