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Guys guys c'mon guys guys. Guys. Srsly, guys. Why can't I be represented as a vampire/werewolf hybrid otherkin in video games? I can't enjoy a game unless the main character's soul is also a five thousand year old Mesopotamian god-king furry. Who became a vampire. Fallout 3 let me be a vampire, and New Vegas let me wear a fox head for a hat. They were both so close. Why can't I have that in Fallout 4? Don't I deserve representation too?
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Valatar posted:Guys guys c'mon guys guys. You can wear a woman's dress as a man 
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Jul 5, 2015 09:57
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Psychotic Weasel posted:But that also got me thinking, what if you didn't run to the Vault and get lowered to safety with your dead family? What if, instead, while you were busy running around collecting your kid you tripped and landed in the refrigerator you left wide open like a dick earlier that morning. You were then knocked out and frozen solid until the fridge's power source failed two centuries later. At some point during that time though an expedition sent out to look at conditions above came across you and dragged your sorry frozen rear end back for examination. I think Bethesda should go with that story. A fridge is not the same as a freezer. Otherwise flawless plot hook, 9/10
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Jul 5, 2015 09:59
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Valatar posted:Guys guys c'mon guys guys. On the other hand you're equating vampire/werewolf hybrid otherkin to being gay which is kind of retarded.
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Jul 5, 2015 10:01
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It *is* pretty stupid. Everyone knows vampire/werewolf hybrid otherkin are bisexual.
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Jul 5, 2015 10:05
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Man Whore posted:I can't think of any company where the fans hate it as much as Bethesda fans hate bethesda. Maybe Bioware? Starbound, obviously.
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Jul 5, 2015 11:20
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Moridin920 posted:On the other hand you're equating vampire/werewolf hybrid otherkin to being gay which is kind of retarded. If Fallout was a story about exploring one's sexuality in a desperate humanity fighting for survival and there was no option to be anything but straight, then I'd call the protagonist's orientation a bad oversight because the game's theme would be flawed without the other options. It's not about that, though. It's about shooting raiders in the face with a BB gun that makes their eyes explode. Whether Robodad or Mombot is gay, straight, bi, null, or furry is not going to change shooting raiders even a little bit. Unless you take the associated perk, I guess, because ironically Fallout has more gameplay mechanics influenced by sexual orientation than pretty much any other game out there. BRB, going to change.org to start a petition for nonsexual and furry perks in Fallout 4. If the reverse was true, and Fallout 4 started off the protagonist in a committed gay relationship, I would say the exact same thing to the imbeciles that crawled out of the woodwork to complain that they couldn't play a game that 'forced them to be gay'. Then I would proceed to still buy it and play it.
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Jul 5, 2015 12:12
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You can't even make a gay character in New Vegas. Its only after talking about local politics and killing bloatflies and geckos do you "level up" and it becomes available. Thanks Ob$idian.
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Jul 5, 2015 13:06
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This is interesting, how exactly is Bethesda planning on policing the modding community? Does this mean that there is going to be some kind of integrated modding system that would prevent unofficial mods from being used? This seems to me to confirm that Beth is planning on selling mods. Why else would they care about their content and be creating tools to police the modding community.
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Jul 5, 2015 13:33
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Boogaleeboo posted:That's because gay people are loving boring. frajaq posted:Go play Guild Wars 2 Anita Dickinme posted:Hahahaha K8.0 posted:Guys how can it be that there are pieces of media that don't cater to my <2% minority sexual preferences? Valatar posted:Guys guys c'mon guys guys. What the hell is wrong with you people
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Jul 5, 2015 13:51
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cargohills posted:What the hell is wrong with you people 
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Jul 5, 2015 13:58
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I want games to start including high detail feet and describing my partner's odors.
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Jul 5, 2015 14:01
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This must be how the people who actually care about Starbound feel. I regret my words and deeds. 
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Jul 5, 2015 14:08
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Rutibex posted:This is interesting, how exactly is Bethesda planning on policing the modding community? Does this mean that there is going to be some kind of integrated modding system that would prevent unofficial mods from being used? That's the opposite of what that article is saying. You just won't be able to get mods that are illegal or infringe copyright through their official sources (Steam Workshop on PC, Bethesda.net on console). They have to care about the content on consoles, because it's available through their official channels and they can be held liable for infringement. On PC you can download whatever you want as always.
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Jul 5, 2015 14:29
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Delsaber posted:I don't fault you for being concerned about representation, but you should probably have higher standards regarding the quality of that representation than just "wet fart." Games writing in general is still pretty bad compared to most other mediums and Bethesda is definitely no exception. The best you could probably hope to see from them on this issue would be a walking stereotype or an empty husk or some ham-handed allegory, none of which really does any good. You may as well just use your imagination at that point. To be fair, heterosexual protagonists often have wet fart representation too, as in the writing for them is godawful. So having godawful homosexual characters would be a step in the right direction because they'll at least be there. Because, let's be honest, if we wait for perfect representation of anything in any medium ever we would never get it. It's like saying "a badass female protagonist? that's not perfect representation of women, that's just a trope of a stoic killer but it's a woman. just let it go and expect better representation of the female sex."
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Jul 5, 2015 15:35
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All video game characters should be asexual
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Jul 5, 2015 15:37
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Have you ever thought about the fact that an alternate-50s style world that borrows heavily from that period might also reflect that periods stereotypical idea of you Joe Average adult? Afaik the stereotype in the 50s was to marry, have kids and be a good American citizen. The entire vault ads are based around this "Take your family to safety" etc. There is a reason why you are Nondescript Male Family Man instead of Gaybeard the Wasteland Butt-Pirate as main protagonist. It simply fits the entire theme better. Just relax and take it for what it is. A rough sketch of a background story to introduce you to a world. Alternatively, don't play the game.
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Jul 5, 2015 16:12
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Mombot's your beard
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Jul 5, 2015 16:18
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The weapon crafting system displayed in the gameplay video got me real hyped at first, but after seeing it a few times, it just seems to be a cumbersome way to make guns you would find in the wasteland anyways. It basically boils down to "sniper, semi automatic, LMG and shotgun" I was hoping for a more intuitive crafting system where I can make a horrible bug spray cannon that shoots radioactive ooze at people, with a chainsaw bayonet. 
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Jul 5, 2015 16:32
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For those complaining about role playing as your favorite fetish or whatever, do you get mad when fictional characters in books you read don't fit what you want them to be too? I'm mad Scout didn't turn out to be a goth tranny
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Jul 5, 2015 16:34
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TBF it would've made the book alot better if she was
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Jimbot posted:To be fair, heterosexual protagonists often have wet fart representation too, as in the writing for them is godawful. So having godawful homosexual characters would be a step in the right direction because they'll at least be there. Because, let's be honest, if we wait for perfect representation of anything in any medium ever we would never get it. It's like saying "a badass female protagonist? that's not perfect representation of women, that's just a trope of a stoic killer but it's a woman. just let it go and expect better representation of the female sex."
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Jul 5, 2015 16:38
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ps loving all the unironic equating a character option saying "im gay" with tumblr fetishism in this thread 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:ps loving all the unironic equating a character option saying "im gay" with tumblr fetishism in this thread I just want to roleplay a goon!
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Jul 5, 2015 16:45
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sout posted:I just want to roleplay a goon! 
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cargohills posted:What the hell is wrong with you people What? Guild Wars 2 is a good game!
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Jul 5, 2015 17:11
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Plot twist- the main character is gay, but Bethesda are so bad at writing characters they seem to be straight.
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Man Whore posted:I can't think of any company where the fans hate it as much as Bethesda fans hate bethesda. Maybe Bioware? Ever heard of a little company called Blizzard?
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Jul 5, 2015 17:14
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Azhais posted:All video game characters should be asexual this guy gets it. it isn't like there aren't enormous online communities dedicated to exploring what it would be like if princess peach grew a dick and cornholed a goomba or whatever, if you absolutely need to know that kind of thing about a video game character. personally i blame custer's revenge for starting video games down the path towards horribly erotic in-game content
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Jul 5, 2015 17:16
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I don't know why some people are certain that confirmed bachelor will be in, that was an Obsidian thing, not a Bethesda thing.
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Jul 5, 2015 17:16
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im gonna kill all heterosexuals
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homerlaw posted:im gonna kill all heterosexuals
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Jul 5, 2015 17:21
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You can try to kill me, but I'll just lie on the floor unconscious for the duration of the fight. This is my strategy in real life as well.
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It's honestly really uncomfortable and sort of pathetic to see a bunch of y'all ganging up on a queer person for wanting to be able to play a queer character in an open-world create-your-own-character RPG. Comparing a desire for queer or Black representation to wanting to be able to be a furry or an otherkin or whatever is also pretty loving gross and I see Gamer types do it all the time; there are things people fundamentally are and there are additional little subcultural things. It's totally reasonable to want to have the former available in a game where you play as a character you design and name. This is honestly another big problem with John Fallout, Soldier, Father, that even the most predefined FO game (probably FO2? or FO3) didn't have edit: and Jesus Christ, don't use the word "tranny" you colossal assholes
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marktheando posted:I don't know why some people are certain that confirmed bachelor will be in, that was an Obsidian thing, not a Bethesda thing. Yeah it won't be. But the prostitutes will lie down in bed next to either gender!
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Jul 5, 2015 17:40
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homeless poster posted:this guy gets it. Games are mostly "asexual" in the sense that they don't reference sexuality explicitly but still conform to gender norms. After all, Mario isn't rescuing a prince.
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I want to join monster brew crew because they wouldnt talk about this stupid poo poo. We got a post apocalyptic world full of robots, mutants, and sweet rear end guns and all goons can talk about is whether you can be gay. What about becoming a ghoul or supermutant!? What about dressing up as an astronaut with a gun that fires globs of plasma that turn people into piles of goo!? Gay or Straight? Im the guy with the Fat-man.
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Hopper posted:Have you ever thought about the fact that an alternate-50s style world that borrows heavily from that period might also reflect that periods stereotypical idea of you Joe Average adult? This guy right here gets it. This game is different to the others because your character is a pre-war person transported to the post-war world. That means you're an average person with a wife/husband and a kid because that was what was expected of you. After you get out of the vault you can decide to become whatever the gently caress you want (though I'm sure finding your family will be a large plot point). It'll be five or ten minutes at the start of the game where you play all happy family before you get to go rampaging around in a giant powersuit with a dog.
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As a gay: Mr Tastee is an autistic welfare queen attention seeker. But if he wants the right of being able to RP as a gay man, which I dunno why he can't other than the fact that he literally hates heterosexuality, I want to RP as a 50's woman who isn't as open-minded as people are today because that's how the 50's were. 
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Your quest is to find a husband, then when you find one the rest of the game takes place in your house, and your quests are "wash the floor" "cook food" etc.
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