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Lead's an easy answer, but socio-economic penalties for being a minority are also much lower than they used to be(even if black male youth unemployment is still twice that of white male youth). Strain theory would argue that personal factors like unemployment of oneself and one's relatives are a bigger function that purely biological factors like lead based neurological damage. Not to negate the multitudes of evidence for the lead crime hypothesis. Just that there's more than one factor at play here.
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ikanreed posted:Just that there's more than one factor at play here. For sure. There always is.
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StandardVC10 posted:For sure. There always is. No shut up the only factor at play is that I'm genetically superior to everyone I don't like and deserve to be king 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:No shut up the only factor at play is that I'm genetically superior to everyone I don't like and deserve to be king This is what reactionaries actually want their future to be
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:No shut up the only factor at play is that I'm genetically superior to everyone I don't like and deserve to be king
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There must be a big contingent of them that watches Game of Thrones, right? I can't think of anything in it that they wouldn't aspire to. Have any of them written anything about it? Who do they identify with the most?
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Jack Gladney posted:There must be a big contingent of them that watches Game of Thrones, right? I can't think of anything in it that they wouldn't aspire to. Have any of them written anything about it? Who do they identify with the most? Troll answer: Joffery. Real answer: Littlefinger. The troll answer would certainly fire these fuckers into a tizzy, but they definitely see themselves as clever behind the scenes masterminds.
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Jack Gladney posted:There must be a big contingent of them that watches Game of Thrones, right? I can't think of anything in it that they wouldn't aspire to. Have any of them written anything about it? Who do they identify with the most? Though to be a Bayesian for once, the base rate is reasonably high so I assume they love GoT about as much as everybody else.
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Or I guess most of this applies to fantasy stories generally, with everyone being white and medieval european culture being the only non-degenerate culture around and the world needing harsh, realist responses that are noble and hard and involve capital punishment and suppression of the vulgar, teeming masses. Are they into lord of the rings and stuff too, or is that too liberal in its importation of 1950s English Christian notions of mercy and forgiveness?
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Cingulate posted:Not if they're smart though - GoT is basically Feudalism is Bad and Aristocrats Suck, The Show. LOTR shpuld be more like it. It seems kind of agnostic about its setting though: more like "if this is what the world is like, how do people respond?" Some people are bad, but the good people learn that they have to uphold the social order and decapitate people and soforth because only they have the strength to rule. It seems like the neoreactionaries would see the real world as being a lot closer to GoT than normal people do, with all their "race realism" and belief that feudalism is the natural order. These same people idolized Don Draper, right?
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Jack Gladney posted:Or I guess most of this applies to fantasy stories generally, with everyone being white and medieval european culture being the only non-degenerate culture around and the world needing harsh, realist responses that are noble and hard and involve capital punishment and suppression of the vulgar, teeming masses. I'm pretty sure they consider the Gondorian treatment of the orcs as the only acceptable way to deal with a large amount of black...let's call them 'beings'.
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Jack Gladney posted:It seems kind of agnostic about its setting though: more like "if this is what the world is like, how do people respond?" Some people are bad, but the good people learn that they have to uphold the social order and decapitate people and soforth because only they have the strength to rule. It seems like the neoreactionaries would see the real world as being a lot closer to GoT than normal people do, with all their "race realism" and belief that feudalism is the natural order. Although arguably, LOTR has this deep anti-technology, anti-progress vibe that probably doesn't work for the techier neo-reactionaries if they'd bother to think about it. They're much more the Dark Lord than the elves. (GoT has basically no good people, and nobody gets rewarded for being good. One of the most straight-forwardly good people just got killed as the season finale.) Check out this for a deeply reactionary piece of culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMD0fXIiug Especially the lyrics to the chorus. http://lyrics.wikia.com/Nightwish:Elvenpath
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Cingulate posted:I think interpreting Mad Men in a pro-50s way is a lot less obviously dumb than interpreting GoT as pro-feudalism. That is, it's both obviously dumb, but the former less so. I believe neoreactionaries do tend to identify with Sauron and Saruman.
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Cingulate posted:I think interpreting Mad Men in a pro-50s way is a lot less obviously dumb than interpreting GoT as pro-feudalism. That is, it's both obviously dumb, but the former less so. lol if you think jon snow is actually dead
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Even if he is, the Red Woman's just gonna gently caress his corpse and bring him back to life, so whatevs.
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What is this?! I love it.
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neonnoodle posted:What is this?! I love it. It's from The 5000 Fingers Of Dr. T, a film Dr. Seuss was involved with in the 50s. Here's the clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8TQOzyCu8Q Never has a man minced like Hans Conried.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Never has a man minced like Hans Conried. Q F'ing T https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQydjFZw8ws
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With fantasy novels they'd probably be more into Sword of Truth novels, where a single strong white man has to kill everyone who disagrees with him, take any woman he wants, and beat children that mouth off too him. Also, you literally have to devout yourself to him or the leader of the big evil collectivist empire will get you. At the end of the books he uses the dragonballs wishes to make two worlds, one with magic and one without, and he is literally God of the one without, which was EARTH. The only non-white people I remember in the books is called the Mud People.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:It's from The 5000 Fingers Of Dr. T, a film Dr. Seuss was involved with in the 50s. Here's the clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8TQOzyCu8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXRK_GIy1yE Just to say that this movie is properly loving mental.
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A White Guy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXRK_GIy1yE It'd definitely worth seeing at least once. A few bits drag, but Dr. Seuss rendered in live-action is wonderfully bizarre.
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Jack Gladney posted:Are they into lord of the rings and stuff too, or is that too liberal in its importation of 1950s English Christian notions of mercy and forgiveness?  The Vosgian Beast posted:It's from The 5000 Fingers Of Dr. T, a film Dr. Seuss was involved with in the 50s. Here's the clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8TQOzyCu8Q
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coyo7e posted:You seem to forget what started this thread off: Oh STEVE 
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I love how the text and ability on the card have nothing to do with the title. Also, that guy says "Stereotypes exist for a reason!" a lot.
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coyo7e posted:The only live-action Dr Seuss movie. Uhh, I'm really sorry you had to find out this way, but...
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http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/07/04/sarkeesian-effect-duo-split-again-aurini-demands-another-15000-owen-disowns-him/#more-17018 Tub Boy and Dr. Skull have broken up again. They can't keep this up, it's not good for the little skulls.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/07/04/sarkeesian-effect-duo-split-again-aurini-demands-another-15000-owen-disowns-him/#more-17018 But once you're balding so hard that "creepy skull" is your better option, maybe it's time to wear some, uh ... beige for a change.
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I'm beginning to suspect that we shouldn't be taking these people seriously you guys.
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Jack Gladney posted:I'm beginning to suspect that we shouldn't be taking these people seriously you guys. Ya think? I love following everything Aurini does, because he's such an unremittingly awful person, and yet such an incompetent clown. Everything he touches turns to poo poo and it totally deserves to. This latest is just beautiful in every way. Owen's video on the subject is the first I can recall seeing him look animated, like he actually woke up before making the video or something. (Owen is a horrible person too, but compared to Aurini he's a lovely guy.)
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divabot posted:Ya think? This is the first time I've suspected he might be legitimately crazy. All that stuff he says about himself being a superlative film editor who can finish cutting a documentary in six months because of his unusual skill seems like pure delusion, given that he's an unemployed college dropout computer programmer who has never made a movie before now.
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neonnoodle posted:The ONLY live-action Dr. Seuss movie And LOL @ anyone who thinks cat in the hat was anything but a hungover truck-stop abortion.
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One of the little things I love about Aurini's videos is the Hunter S. Thompson biography in the background of a lot of his videos. Thompson, as I'm sure most of your are aware, was a real man's man. He spent most of the 60s, 70s, 80s, and even 90s drunk or high (or both), and hosed around the country Speaking Truth while writing hilarious take downs of the various elites that were ruining the country. A libertarian who never compromised, never backed down, never gave up, whether he was mocking Nixon to his face, exposing the lies of the Clinton administration, of trashing the American Dream for the cocked up load of bull poo poo that it is, he was a man for all men to emulate. The problem is, of course, that Aurini almost certainly hasn't read that particular biography. Gonzo: The Life of Hunter S. Thompson by Thompson's former assistant Corey Seymour and Rolling Stone owner and editor-in-chief Jann S. Wenner is an oral biography compiled from interviews with everyone Thompson knew during his life, and is basically a huge take down of every myth, legend, or rumor that you've ever heard about him, leaving him looking like a gigantic, irresponsible, and sexist rear end in a top hat who people mostly tolerated because he wouldn't leave them alone and/or because he made them money. If it weren't written by two of his best friends, one might call it a hit piece. His writing might be fun, but the truth it wasn't. I could understand if it was a copy of The Great Shark Hunt or Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, but this particular bio? It's difficult to imagine how someone could read about Hells Angels founder Sonny Barger calling Thompson a coward who hid in the trunk of his car rather than stand his ground when things got a little heavy, and later lied about having been in a big gang fight, and think "This is one of my heroes".
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Toph Bei Fong posted:One of the little things I love about Aurini's videos is the Hunter S. Thompson biography in the background of a lot of his videos. I don't know, I'm getting the impression that he's running the intimidation con like Trump, so he might want to emulate the real Thompson, rather than the projected Thompson. That being said, he's never going to make anybody that much money.
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Jack Gladney posted:This is the first time I've suspected he might be legitimately crazy. All that stuff he says about himself being a superlative film editor who can finish cutting a documentary in six months because of his unusual skill seems like pure delusion, given that he's an unemployed college dropout computer programmer who has never made a movie before now. THAT IS A TERRIBLE CALUMNY. I present to you: "Lust In The Time of Heartache". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBe09g3ALw Surprisingly, it made a whole 4.8/10 on IMDb. Or there's the cultural Marxist take on it: Mammoth, /r/bluepill. Best bit is someone getting punched in the nuts around 6:20; sadly, it's not Aurini. The font for the credits (9:24 on) is also worth boggling at. edit: May I also commend to you Dick Coughlan on Aurini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3yu4kFP_4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4-gYwrZb08. The second needs editing, the first is amazing. That podcast of Aurini's needs transcription and propagation. edit 2: Here we go! Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMPmwj6avCg&t=74s and here's the transcript, 'cos you really don't want to click on that: guy who doesn't get invited to Aurini family barbecues any more posted:1:14 We have game, which is certainly useful. It's a skill that every man should have to some degree or another. You don't just use it for picking up sluts in bars, okay, this isn't pick-up artistry, it's just how you relate to women. 1:31 You use game, yes, to meet girls at bars. You also use it with your wife. Or even your nieces. A man with game, y'know, knows how to relate to women. And even little girls are still, they are little women. divabot has a new favorite as of 16:15 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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divabot posted:(Owen is a horrible person too, but compared to Aurini he's a lovely guy.) Owen is a buffoon who is at least earnest about his terrible ideas and honestly thinks he has the moral argument. Aurini is.... something else.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Owen is a buffoon who is at least earnest about his terrible ideas and honestly thinks he has the moral argument. Aurini is.... something else. Yeah. Having had the test done by finding that quote (which actually lowered my opinion of Aurini), I can now confidently state that I find neoreactionary white nationalists """""on paper""""" are out-creeped by MRAs sexualising children. Even """"on paper""""".
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Toph Bei Fong posted:One of the little things I love about Aurini's videos is the Hunter S. Thompson biography in the background of a lot of his videos. It's one of those books that psuedo-intellectuals have to show off to everyone else. I'm willing to bet he also has/had a copy of Freakonomics.
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MizPiz posted:It's one of those books that psuedo-intellectuals have to show off to everyone else. I'm willing to bet he also has/had a copy of Freakonomics. I have a copy of Superfreakonomics because I got it for Christmas from a loved one desperate to find something they could actually get me for a present. It's the same market Glibwell targets. (yes, I read it. No, it's glib bullshit. Yes, I gritted my teeth in a smile and said "thank you!")
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divabot posted:I have a copy of Superfreakonomics because I got it for Christmas from a loved one desperate to find something they could actually get me for a present. It's the same market Glibwell targets. If you're looking for a guide to "turns-out" "journalism" check out The SHAME Project. It's kind of like this thread, but for hack propagandists in the service of the right wing. Like Malcolm Gladwell (2, 3) and the Freakonomics (2, 3) folks. I'm surprised nobody has put together a comprehensive "Dark Enlightenment" takedown in that style.
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