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gently caress waiting 30 seconds for my computer to boot, 30 seconds for my tabs to load, 30 seconds for my VM to load, possibly 30 seconds for my IDE to load in my VM. I'm no heathen.
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Thermopyle posted:gently caress waiting 30 seconds for my computer to boot, 30 seconds for my tabs to load, 30 seconds for my VM to load, possibly 30 seconds for my IDE to load in my VM. If you let your PC go to sleep there is barely any waiting involved. Anyway I originally posted that because those CDI screenshots are such a contrast with how it looks on my laptop - it has less than 4000 hours power on time, but more than 5000 power cycles.
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I turn it on when I get home as I dump my phone etc on my desk, and then go get changed and talk to my partner anyway so it's all loaded by the time I'm ready to use it. To me that extra time is a non-factor and in exchange I don't chew electricity for no reason over the course of some 2/3 of the day during the week.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:I'm going to be in the minority here, but I shut my home desktop off when I'm at work and asleep, saving about 16 hours a day on electricity. Plus in the summer it keeps things a little cooler, the system can be a bit of a space heater for the bedroom. Same here. Since it takes all of 15 seconds to boot anyway, no reason to heat the room more than it needs. I do have a NAS and separate small server for command-line shenanigans though and those are on 24/7.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:I'm going to be in the minority here, but I shut my home desktop off when I'm at work and asleep, saving about 16 hours a day on electricity. Plus in the summer it keeps things a little cooler, the system can be a bit of a space heater for the bedroom. I'm the same way. The only thing I lose is my torrent ratio since I'm not seeding 24/7. I'd rather have the system off and not heating the room. Granted I'm not turning it on and off during the day between uses, but when I go to sleep at night, the system is off. When I get on it, I can hit the power button and be up in like 15-20 seconds.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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RightClickSaveAs posted:I'm going to be in the minority here, but I shut my home desktop off when I'm at work and asleep, saving about 16 hours a day on electricity. Plus in the summer it keeps things a little cooler, the system can be a bit of a space heater for the bedroom. Same here. 4 days a week I barely even use my desktop since I am working so much, and between the desktop being a 5 year old power hog, and the 10 year old sun server that I use for servery stuff, its not worth keeping running all the time. Literally a $150/mo difference in my power bill between those 2 things, and my AC not having to work as hard.
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Thermopyle posted:gently caress waiting 30 seconds for my computer to boot, 30 seconds for my tabs to load, 30 seconds for my VM to load, possibly 30 seconds for my IDE to load in my VM. Does nobody use S3 sleep? I mean it takes literally 3 seconds to wake up (its up before the monitor wakes up) and uses like 1-2 watts while sleeping.(basically nothing)
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ClassH posted:Does nobody use S3 sleep? I mean it takes literally 3 seconds to wake up (its up before the monitor wakes up) and uses like 1-2 watts while sleeping.(basically nothing) I've literally never had sleep work reliably on a desktop computer. But maybe it works now, I just gave up on trying it out on every computer to only be disappointed. edit: Hey you want to hear something funny? I guess I never bothered to disable sleep when I moved over to Win10 full time, so I've been using sleep for a few months! I guess it works! Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Jul 6, 2015 17:56
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My machine sleeps just fine but something always wakes it up so it is on when I come back, so it's essentially useless to me. Also it never worked right for me on desktop until Ivy Bridge.
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Dogen posted:My machine sleeps just fine but something always wakes it up so it is on when I come back, so it's essentially useless to me. Go into the device manager in windows, go into Mice/Keyboards/Human Interface Devices/Network Adaptors and check the properties on each listed device for a Power management tab. Uncheck "Allow this device to wake the computer." If that doesn't work then go to your bios, disable Wake on LAN and check to see if you can apply further restrictions.
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Jul 6, 2015 18:27
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Thermopyle posted:I've literally never had sleep work reliably on a desktop computer. But maybe it works now, I just gave up on trying it out on every computer to only be disappointed. I'm curious to see how Windows 10 improves things. I personally never use sleep because hooray PCIe SSDs!
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I personally never use sleep because hooray PCIe SSDs! Explain this last part to me like I'm a dinosaur
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Explain this last part to me like I'm a dinosaur PCI Express SSDs are very very fast (and very expensive), even faster than SATA SSDs. Booting from a PCIe SSD is almost as fast as waking a computer from sleep. Skandranon posted:Finally had time to get my Intel 750 PCIe working in my 2nd PCIe 3.0 slot, and it flies. Posted below are some benchmarks from CrystalDiskMark
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No mention of Samsung's new 2TB 850s? http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/samsung-adds-huge-2tb-ssds-to-its-850-evo-and-850-pro-families/ quote:Today brings good news for those of you with one drive bay and a hankering for lots of fast local storage: Samsung has just added 2TB solid-state drives to its 850 Evo and 850 Pro SSD families. The drives have the same features as the 120GB, 250GB, 500GB, and 1TB SSDs in both families, but their higher capacities will cost you. The 2TB 850 Evo has an MSRP of $800, while the 850 Pro will run you $1,000. I'm thinking, what, $580 by the holiday season?
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Avulsion posted:PCI Express SSDs are very very fast (and very expensive), even faster than SATA SSDs. Booting from a PCIe SSD is almost as fast as waking a computer from sleep. I can attest to this. Sometimes, my computer will boot (ignoring the BIOS post part) faster than it will wake from sleep. The only reason I use sleep is so I don't have to open my 100 browser tabs every time I boot. Skandranon fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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bull3964 posted:No mention of Samsung's new 2TB 850s? When the 850 line was first shown off I swear that I read Samsung had already made them in 2TB capacities, but decided to hold them back. Gotta milk the market by selling the lower capacity drives first, right? From the physical size of the 850 chips, they apparently can cram 10 TB into a 2.5" drive. That is with their 2014 tech, and again, they are holding back on releasing larger capacities. Hard drive manufacturers are having a bitch of a time getting 10TB to work (shingled storage, really?), meanwhile SSD makers can do 10 TB now, they just choose not to.
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Skandranon posted:I can attest to this. Sometimes, my computer will boot (ignoring the BIOS post part) faster than it will wake from sleep. The only reason I use sleep is so I don't have to open my 100 browser tabs every time I boot. Doesn't matter how fast I can wake or boot from SSD, leaving the computer awake means background downloads go smoothly while I'm away. My home connection is pretty lousy and I'd rather not have to wait on updates when I sit down to do something - Steam is pretty obnoxious about updating games before you can play, for example.  Xenomorph posted:Hard drive manufacturers are having a bitch of a time getting 10TB to work (shingled storage, really?), meanwhile SSD makers can do 10 TB now, they just choose not to. I'm guessing the controllers to manage 10TB of storage isn't quite there yet, if nothing else.
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Xenomorph posted:Hard drive manufacturers are having a bitch of a time getting 10TB to work (shingled storage, really?), meanwhile SSD makers can do 10 TB now, they just choose not to. Maybe samsung didn't think there was enough of a market for $5000 SSDs to justify the technical and logistical hassle.
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Also they changed the controller from MEX to MHX, so maybe there was a technical limitation.
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Avulsion posted:Go into the device manager in windows, go into Mice/Keyboards/Human Interface Devices/Network Adaptors and check the properties on each listed device for a Power management tab. Uncheck "Allow this device to wake the computer." If that doesn't work then go to your bios, disable Wake on LAN and check to see if you can apply further restrictions. If you're having trouble with devices waking your machine from sleep, Vista (I believe) introduced the powercfg commandline tool. Its most useful feature is the /LASTWAKE option, which will tell you what the last wake-up event was caused by. pre:C:\Windows\System32>powercfg /lastwake
Wake History Count - 1
Wake History [0]
Wake Source Count - 1
Wake Source [0]
Type: Device
Instance Path: USB\ROOT_HUB\4&1d34232f&0
Friendly Name:
Description: USB Root Hub
Manufacturer: (Standard USB Host Controller)
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I've never gotten any useful information from /lastwake or any of the event viewer logs. I just end up turning stuff off until the problem goes away.
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Thermopyle posted:I've literally never had sleep work reliably on a desktop computer. But maybe it works now, I just gave up on trying it out on every computer to only be disappointed. Holy crap, mine too. 
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Skandranon posted:I can attest to this. Sometimes, my computer will boot (ignoring the BIOS post part) faster than it will wake from sleep. The only reason I use sleep is so I don't have to open my 100 browser tabs every time I boot. Oh, okay. I almost thought that there was some sort of technical limitation to PCIe SSDs that would prevent sleep or something. Is sleep still a practical feature for users that run RAMdisks?
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Is sleep still a practical feature for users that run RAMdisks?
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Depends on the sleep state you're talking about. How about the ones that actually save significant power and produce usefully less heat? I'm in the crowd that doesn't do Sleep and would like to know
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Storage Review has reviews of the 2TB EVO *and* Pro: EVO: http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_850_evo_ssd_2tb_review Pro: http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_850_pro_ssd_2tb_review
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So, I have a 2008/9 macbook that I'm attempting to bring back to life as a budget laptop.( an A1278 should it matter), with the only issue being a hard drive failure. After a brief look at hardware specs, it has a sata 3Gb connection to storage, which I believe means sata 2. So here's a question: can anyone recommend a small, possibly older generation SSD to throw in there? Local craiglist only has 60GB kingstons/ocs available which OP warns against, and in the 30$-40$ price range I'd rather just order a new one online. I'm not exactly married to a tiny drive, but I have an external enclosure so it just needs to be large enough for OS+documents. I've had a crucial M4 for years that's working fine on the desktop, and thought an older machine could use all the help it could get. The machine needs more than 2gb of ram also, I'm just trying to get it up and running with minimal investment. Currently looking at a Mushkin Enhanced Eco2 - how are they for brand reliability? The 60's cheap, but a 120's the shellshocker right now on newegg. TheParadigm fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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TheParadigm posted:Currently looking at a Mushkin Enhanced Eco2 - how are they for brand reliability? The 60's cheap, but a 120's the shellshocker right now on newegg.
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TheParadigm posted:So here's a question: can anyone recommend a small, possibly older generation SSD to throw in there? Local craiglist only has 60GB kingstons/ocs available which OP warns against, and in the 30$-40$ price range I'd rather just order a new one online. I'm not exactly married to a tiny drive, but I have an external enclosure so it just needs to be large enough for OS+documents. Personally, I'd just throw a EVO850 in there...in fact, I did the same thing for a laptop with a SATA2 interface. Yeah, you are driving around with the parking brake on with the slower interface, but it won't make a ton of difference in what you experience. The extra $20 or so is probably worth it for a drive that is, arguably, one of the best on the market. The 120GB is currently $56 on Amazon, and you can probably find it cheaper. For extra snake-oil, turn on the RAPID mode, if you have some extra memory to spare. That might actually help with the slower SATA interface. edit: Sorry, missed the Macbook part. If you're not running Windows, no RAPID. B-Nasty fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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B-Nasty posted:Personally, I'd just throw a EVO850 in there...in fact, I did the same thing for a laptop with a SATA2 interface. Yeah, you are driving around with the parking brake on with the slower interface, but it won't make a ton of difference in what you experience. The extra $20 or so is probably worth it for a drive that is, arguably, one of the best on the market. The 120GB is currently $56 on Amazon, and you can probably find it cheaper. Seconding the 850 suggestion... even if you don't get the full speed from SATA3, it'll last forever and you have the option of moving it to a SATA3 system later on, if you so choose. I expect to be using my 256gb 840s as boot drives until an OS no longer fits within 256gb.
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so i just bought this bad boy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132415 what SSD should i get? i would like to spend under $100 if possible. yea, i can spend more, but would really, really like to avoid it. i don't need a lot of storage, and i honestly don't need insane speed. this computer's for music production. i would look into all this SATA and m.2 stuff, but i really don't know if i can ingest any more computer stuff right now. i'm just looking for simple advice at this point as my head's about to explode. thanks in advance. abelwingnut fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:so i just bought this bad boy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132415 250 gig Samsung 850 EVO. Costs $100 from most major US retailers.
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thanks. and how should i connect it? should i get the m.2 version, which is a fine $20 more, or go with SATA express or regular SATA? don't mind spending a little bit here.
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Probably the regular SATA3 for now, unless you have a particular need for the M2 version. You'll be able to use the SATA version with pretty much everything, not a lot of things have M2 ports yet.
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So, uh, anyone know if we're ever getting a second firmware fix for the mSATA 840 EVO slowdown bug? It's been out there for like 3 months for the 2.5" drives.
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Srebrenica Surprise posted:So, uh, anyone know if we're ever getting a second firmware fix for the mSATA 840 EVO slowdown bug? It's been out there for like 3 months for the 2.5" drives. EXT0B6Q definitely has the slowdown on my drive, way back when I first updated it the problem was "fixed" for a while but it came back. What's everyone's experience been with the new version? I don't want to install it if it will just do the same thing again. It's not a huge deal to me, but it's a bummer seeing those plunging valleys in the benchmark 
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Download and run the Performance Restoration Tool, that will put on the latest firmware.
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Download and run the Performance Restoration Tool, that will put on the latest firmware. Not anymore. The newer fix is distributed through Samsung Magician, the tool is outdated. The newest firmware will fix the drive itself over time, but you can manually run the advanced performance optimisation from within Magician to expedite the process.
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BurritoJustice posted:Not anymore. The newer fix is distributed through Samsung Magician, the tool is outdated. The newest firmware will fix the drive itself over time, but you can manually run the advanced performance optimisation from within Magician to expedite the process. "Over time" means within 2 minutes of booting after the update you'll see a noticeable improvement in speed, and within 2 hours your HD Tach graph will be smoothed out with no performance dips. Avulsion posted:After rebooting a couple of times, magician finally noticed there was new firmware to download. Avulsion fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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