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MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Steve2911 posted:

Now that I've hit the post-game wrap up/collectible hunting section I remember why I never like doing this in open world games. It's so drat lonely existing in a static world for so long after the story it's telling has been told. The main thing keeping me going at this point is the new thug dialogue, but even that's already started repeating itself.

It's a very unpleasant, game-y feeling that very few open world games manage to avoid. I think it's the lack of civilians/day to day life that does it. Once the story has been told and the reason for Gotham to be empty is over, it stops feeling like a place and starts feeling like a big, empty toy.

I know the feeling, and this is why I'm trying to save at least a couple side missions for the post-game. I'm nearing the end of the story, in the tunnels after the cloudburst and I wanted something to do other than hunting collectibles and listening to goon chatter. Although the goon chatter in this one is just great. I overheard a gay militia soldier talk about how his better half thinks he's on a business trip :3:

Even so, there are probably tons of easter eggs and visual details I haven't seen yet, and I'm still blown away by the art design for Gotham. The slums, the decayed Gothic architecture, the sleek neon-filled skyscrapers like something out of Blade Runner. It's just so drat good and is a treat to glide or drive through. It actually lived up to the concept art.

MeatwadIsGod fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Jul 6, 2015

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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Something I didn't notice until replaying Arkham Asylum just now (spoilers for the end of this game): The container that Batman locks mind-Joker away in at the end of the game is the same holding cell as the very first titan container guy in Arkham Asylum. It even slides away behind the big doors in the same manner. Neat callback.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

ayn rand hand job posted:

Just wait. :)


You can blind them briefly by hacking, but that's it. REC and Disruptor are worthless.

Sometime there's a secondary panel to destroy a buncha the turrets, but there are a few where you have to blind the sentry and then take out the guards before it comes back.


Is there an upgrade I need for the remote hacking device? Because I have it and did the airship sections, and I'm still unable to hack the sentry guns. I'm talking about the turret thing that scans the ground... like in the terminal velocity predator challenge map.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

Narcissus1916 posted:

Is there an upgrade I need for the remote hacking device? Because I have it and did the airship sections, and I'm still unable to hack the sentry guns. I'm talking about the turret thing that scans the ground... like in the terminal velocity predator challenge map.
It's the remote hacking tool (the thing you use to "crack" passwords). It's one button click to work. That lets you blind the turrets. If you want to use the disruptor I believe it only works on undeployed turrets and does something with the person trying to deploy it instead, or maybe forces it to explode or something when its set up. I never really used it.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Sober posted:

It's the remote hacking tool (the thing you use to "crack" passwords). It's one button click to work. That lets you blind the turrets. If you want to use the disruptor I believe it only works on undeployed turrets and does something with the person trying to deploy it instead, or maybe forces it to explode or something when its set up. I never really used it.

It's really good because they announce when they're setting up a turret and they take a bit of time to get it and take it where they want. It's basically a free takedown.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

Huh. Maybe I just need to play more main missions or something... because I'm not getting any option to blind turrets. I can use the remote hacker on an exploding barrel thing on terminal velocity, but it doesn't respond to turrets at all.

I did the airship part and now need to go to Lucius Fox to track roots. Hopefully that'll be the answer.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Rei_ posted:

My game broke in the final stretch and made a cutscene really funny since it looks like Batman's just totally lost his mind and is carrying an imaginary Barbara into the GCPD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnWPq3ScQCU

Happened to me and decided to reload, fixed it.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Steve2911 posted:

Now that I've hit the post-game wrap up/collectible hunting section I remember why I never like doing this in open world games. It's so drat lonely existing in a static world for so long after the story it's telling has been told. The main thing keeping me going at this point is the new thug dialogue, but even that's already started repeating itself.

It's a very unpleasant, game-y feeling that very few open world games manage to avoid. I think it's the lack of civilians/day to day life that does it. Once the story has been told and the reason for Gotham to be empty is over, it stops feeling like a place and starts feeling like a big, empty toy.

Yeah, I'm thinking of just jumping into NG+ and going for the second half of the Riddler trophies to tie in with Knightfall 100% trophies. The city just feels...bland without militia patrols and stuff.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

Nvm about the sentry guns. Just had to play more of the story.

Just stumbled upon one of my favorite gadgets in the studio. If you don't find it yourself, does the game eventually send you to get it for the main story or riddles?

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Narcissus1916 posted:

Nvm about the sentry guns. Just had to play more of the story.

Just stumbled upon one of my favorite gadgets in the studio. If you don't find it yourself, does the game eventually send you to get it for the main story or riddles?

The game never tells you about it. I didn't find it until I looked it up online for solving some riddles post-game.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Narcissus1916 posted:

Nvm about the sentry guns. Just had to play more of the story.

Just stumbled upon one of my favorite gadgets in the studio. If you don't find it yourself, does the game eventually send you to get it for the main story or riddles?

It's such a good weapon for taking down rear end in a top hat militia dudes (shock/shield) too. It sucks they make it so easy to miss.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
It will never not be funny setting up everyone's equipment to explode or overload and watch them shock themselves.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

poptart_fairy posted:

It will never not be funny setting up everyone's equipment to explode or overload and watch them shock themselves.

"I've got a signal!" BZZZZZ

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
So, if you're like me, you spent a lot of time trying to find Riddler informants, getting angrier and angrier at why there just WEREN'T ANY RIDDLER INFORMANTS.

I eventually figured it out - for reasons unknown, the spawning of new green dudes is tied in with taking out other goons. If you simply fly around the island, circling and looking for them, new ones don't spawn. If you hop in the Batmobile, and make sure to ram random cars/people, they pop constantly. I have no idea why it was done this way, I spent as much time hunting for informants as I did solving riddles. :(

ALSO, the Subway tunnel trophies count as Founder's Island trophies. So if you're like "where are the goons to give me Founder's Island trophies", then make sure you don't have any left in the subway.

spiff_dedalus
Jul 15, 2004
The best-laid plans of mice and men go oft awry.

Steve2911 posted:

Now that I've hit the post-game wrap up/collectible hunting section I remember why I never like doing this in open world games. It's so drat lonely existing in a static world for so long after the story it's telling has been told. The main thing keeping me going at this point is the new thug dialogue, but even that's already started repeating itself.

It's a very unpleasant, game-y feeling that very few open world games manage to avoid. I think it's the lack of civilians/day to day life that does it. Once the story has been told and the reason for Gotham to be empty is over, it stops feeling like a place and starts feeling like a big, empty toy.

I felt like that was pretty much exactly how I felt, though. Everything was done, Gotham was saved, Batman was finished. Naturally, New Game Plus helped alleviate that for a while though.

The only thing that I really lucked into finding was one of Azrael's batfires, because it was blending in with the surrounding neon lights. The riddler stuff is really very easy, but they did manage to throw in some that actually made you stop and look around and try to think it through. There seemed like a pretty good ratio of "grab random trophies" and actual brain teasers. Honestly though, the secret to finding collectables is to just beat the gently caress out of every Riddler goon you find, glide around the city (sometimes with detective mode on), and examine landmarks. The game makes it seem like there's so many buildings and poo poo, but look at the 3d map and you can tell that the actual important landmarks are kinda scarce. If all else fails, the police helicopters will point you in the right way.

The final scene, weird as it is, isn't the reason I'd say to collect the riddler poo poo. Fighting his Riddler mech is one of the more gratifying moments in the game, and then the short scene with Catwoman afterward was one of the more moving cutscenes. Like a batpunch in the heart, the same way the Penguin stuff ends with Bruce saying goodbye to Dick.

As for Arkham Origins, literally the worst thing I can say about it is that it basically rips off most of Arkham City's content, even down to reskinning predator maps as different places. But, Arkham City is loving awesome, and I was more than happy to replay THAT game multiple times, so the option to replay basically the same thing but with a different coat of paint was worth it to me. It's the least inspired of the series, but it's still good (even if I just hear Chris Redfield Batman every time he talks). You can almost think of it as a stand alone expansion for Arkham City.

I've been trying to finish all the challenges, but gently caress David vs. Goliath. I've gotten to 4 tanks, and then I gently caress up...which incidentally is the exact same problem I have with the vulcan gun perfect shot achievement on the tank sensors...

Aquasnake
Jan 30, 2013

"I... I did well, didn't I?"
Anyone found a consistent way of hanging from the police helicopters? In detective vision is says they're a good place to hang, but you can't grapple to them while you're gliding, and if you just try to glide into them you get turned away, I think maybe one time I was able to grapple up to one from the roof of a building but I was just trying it again for several minutes and it didn't want to give it to me.

LiterallyAnything
Jul 11, 2008

by vyelkin

DarthBlingBling posted:

Yes, don't use specialist software or wrappers for your DS4. AK has DS4 support built it, so just plug in the pad and play.

I tried this, and while the initial game screen prompts "X" to start instead of XBone's "A", the game doesn't take accept any of the input except from the trackpad because it thinks it's mouse movement.

Is there anything special I need to do or something I'm missing? I connect the DS4 via Bluetooth to my PC.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

The answer to What if Rocksteady made a Superman game is always going to be Smallville. Start out in the hay fields as Superman unlocks his power set and enters Metropolis. By the end of the game you're probably full Superman and you really would run into problems on how to do a sequel after that.

Also that rumor that Rocksteady was going to do an Aquaman game is actually really cool if you stop and visualize what they could do with the ocean

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Make it Silver Age Superman where your biggest threat is nib nose Lois Lane trying to uncover your identity. You progress through the game building an army of Superman robots and using Super Ventriloquism to throw her off your trail. The final boss is Pat Boone.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Saint Freak posted:

Make it Silver Age Superman where your biggest threat is nib nose Lois Lane trying to uncover your identity. You progress through the game building an army of Superman robots and using Super Ventriloquism to throw her off your trail. The final boss is Pat Boone.
The challenge levels write themselves:


Also, I didn't even realize you could hang from the helicopters in AK since I never saw a prompt.

redbackground fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 6, 2015

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Aquasnake posted:

Anyone found a consistent way of hanging from the police helicopters? In detective vision is says they're a good place to hang, but you can't grapple to them while you're gliding, and if you just try to glide into them you get turned away, I think maybe one time I was able to grapple up to one from the roof of a building but I was just trying it again for several minutes and it didn't want to give it to me.

I managed to grapple onto one once. Only one time. If there's any special trick to it, I've yet to find it. I've tried it from the ground, I've tried it from the rooftops, I've tried it while gliding, but as far as I can tell, it's just hosed.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

I've also managed it literally once. Maybe that's your lot.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!
I tag helicopters quite a bit but you have to be really close. Like, way closer than you have to be to grapple to anything else.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

What is even the point of grappling to a copter?

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

redbackground posted:

The challenge levels write themselves:

I'm surprised they didn't call this Super-Dancing, at least not on this page. Silver Age Superman had a bunch of amazing powers such as Super-Mathematics, Super-Weaving and Super-Landscaping, and Super-Dancing would fit right in.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

ImpAtom posted:

What is even the point of grappling to a copter?

Well, Mr Freeze will stop yelling at you to get to it.

Aquasnake
Jan 30, 2013

"I... I did well, didn't I?"

ImpAtom posted:

What is even the point of grappling to a copter?

Its a good vantage point for you to detective mode like, most of the island below you.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

CJacobs posted:

Something I didn't notice until replaying Arkham Asylum just now (spoilers for the end of this game): The container that Batman locks mind-Joker away in at the end of the game is the same holding cell as the very first titan container guy in Arkham Asylum. It even slides away behind the big doors in the same manner. Neat callback.

I noticed that too!

"Extreme Isolation" was the name of that unit, too, apparently it's for their super-super-super nasties that are never allowed out, to the point where it's a cell suspended over a pit.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

///Major Arkham Knight Spoilers \\\



So like when Batman goes to the Clocktower to find Oracle kidnapped, they left her wheelchair behind but when Scarecrow wheels her out on the rooftop she's sitting in it.
Did they just double back for it or something?

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Aquasnake posted:

Its a good vantage point for you to detective mode like, most of the island below you.

Yeah, if you're trying to track down, say, firefighters, you can just hang off a chopper and look below with detective mode until you see a large group of thugs standing around, or listen to what the helicopter radios in so you know what it's looking at. But considering how extremely difficult it is to latch on, you're better off just gliding around at high speed.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Sinners Sandwich posted:

///Major Arkham Knight Spoilers \\\

So like when Batman goes to the Clocktower to find Oracle kidnapped, they left her wheelchair behind but when Scarecrow wheels her out on the rooftop she's sitting in it.
Did they just double back for it or something?


Maybe Jason got her a new one. Seems like the kind of thing he'd do since he actually seems to like Barbara.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Nah, it's the exact same one with her backpack and signature DIET SODA

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Doc Morbid posted:

I'm surprised they didn't call this Super-Dancing, at least not on this page. Silver Age Superman had a bunch of amazing powers such as Super-Mathematics, Super-Weaving and Super-Landscaping, and Super-Dancing would fit right in.

Actually it was called Super Disco Fever. Yes for seriously.

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Brady posted:

I tried this, and while the initial game screen prompts "X" to start instead of XBone's "A", the game doesn't take accept any of the input except from the trackpad because it thinks it's mouse movement.

Is there anything special I need to do or something I'm missing? I connect the DS4 via Bluetooth to my PC.

I just have mine connected via wire. Perhaps over Bluetooth it's treated differently.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Saint Freak posted:

Actually it was called Super Disco Fever. Yes for seriously.
ahaha holy poo poo :allears:

Incidentally, it's not possible for me to see the words "Disco Fever" without hearing this in my head, so now I'm imagining it in the background of the strip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAHZepqA-E

JackDarko
Sep 30, 2009

"Amala, I've got a chainsaw on my arm. I'll be fine."

Crappy Jack posted:

Yeah, if you're trying to track down, say, firefighters, you can just hang off a chopper and look below with detective mode until you see a large group of thugs standing around, or listen to what the helicopter radios in so you know what it's looking at. But considering how extremely difficult it is to latch on, you're better off just gliding around at high speed.

There was this group of super well armed thugs harassing this fire fighter that took me so many drat retries to beat last night. Five riot shields, two stun batons and two automated rifles. Fuckers must have been huffing fire extinguishers too with how many they had lying around. How many guys does it even take to gently caress with one fire fighter?

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

JackDarko posted:

There was this group of super well armed thugs harassing this fire fighter that took me so many drat retries to beat last night. Five riot shields, two stun batons and two automated rifles. Fuckers must have been huffing fire extinguishers too with how many they had lying around. How many guys does it even take to gently caress with one fire fighter?
Because I'm dumb, what was the in-game, given point of capturing the fire squad? Just to slow down and distract Batman?

Also, so far (65% or so done, just found Ivy's second "friend"), my favorite Joker moment was when, after beating up a room of mercs, he walks over to one's body and just starts kicking it. It was delightful.

redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 6, 2015

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

redbackground posted:

Because I'm dumb, what was the given point of capturing the fire squad? Just to slow down and distract Batman?


I think Gotham is just filled with assholes.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

redbackground posted:

Because I'm dumb, what was the in-game, given point of capturing the fire squad? Just to slow down and distract Batman?

Also, so far (65% or so done), my favorite Joker moment was when, after beating up a room of mercs, he walks over to one's body and just starts kicking it. It was delightful.

I think It was implied Firefly set it up to keep them from putting out the firehouse fires. The cheif brought firefly into town in teh first place, but had nothing to do with the kidnapping

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poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Dogen posted:

"I've got a signal!" BZZZZZ

I wonder how many variations of WRBLBRLBRLBRLBL the actors put together for those situations.

Flytrap posted:

I think Gotham is just filled with assholes.

Speaking of which I love how goddamn angry regular goons get over the Knight's forces.

"This is OUR TOWN to terrorize. I hope Batman does something about them before we kill him! :argh:"

poptart_fairy fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 6, 2015

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