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  Shield Dragons take a while to kill, but they can be Berserked, so Golem renders them useless. Summoning Titan a whole lot (Boosted by Samson's Might mixes to speed the process) does the rest, he is still surprisingly strong even right before Exdeath's Castle.
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Just want to double-check my Exdeath strategy so I don't bash my head against him uselessly if there's a far better option. I have: - Ninja with Sasuke's Katana and the Dancing Dagger, Crystal Helmet, Mirage Vest, Regen Ring; Mug - Samurai with Chicken Knife, Masamune, Genji Helm, Genji Armor, Hermes Sandals; Two Weapons - Berserker with Rune Axe, Giant (Titan? German mobile), Thornlet, Diamond Cuirass, Genji Glove; Two Weapons - Thief with Parrying Dagger (will never attack, so also back row), Black Hood, Dark (?) Robe, Angel Ring; Zeninage The plan is to Haste everyone with the Masamune asap during the first phase, then beat that down (it's easy enough if I don't eat all the Meteors). Against NED, I use Magic Lamp asap, then Ninja starts Throwing Fumas at the Almagest part (it's the top one with the red lion head, right?). Samurai also attacks that part because it deals way more damage if Masamune crits than Zeninage, I basically hope for no runs with the Chicken Knife...I'm not sure if I overlooked a better weapon combination here. Thief keeps throwing money. As it's the mobile version, Berserker will keep attacking the front part, there's no possible contribution to destroy the Almagest part quicker. So far, this has not worked out because Almagest does get through regardless. I survive it sometimes, but solo 200 HP Samurai soon succumbs. Party level is 38. Am I doing something obviously wrong/inefficiently, or should I just hope for better damage rolls? I got a Dragon Lance (instant steal off an old man Avis thing in Catastrophe's room, HA!), will throwing that deal extra damage to maybe even the Almagest part?
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Jul 6, 2015 20:07
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I'd give the Chicken Knife to your ninja so that you can use Mug to avoid the Flee chance.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:13
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Almagest is the bottom part. The top part is the one that casts Grand Cross. Since you have a thief, steal a Murakumo from a Yojimbo at the castle part of the Rift. That katana has more power than Masamune. Make the samurai use Murakumo/Masamune. Give the chicken knife to your ninja instead. Consider getting double Thor's Hammers for your Berserker. They're back-row friendly (nice if zerker targets the back) and stealable from I think Death Claws at the castle.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:15
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Spikey posted:I'd give the Chicken Knife to your ninja so that you can use Mug to avoid the Flee chance. I have a Murakumo from somewhere...also a Thor's Hammer. But unless I'm missing something, it's only advantage is the long range? Mobile version Berserker never attacks back row, so I should be good in that regard. Anyway, as I kill the back part immediately with Odin, should that not be a non-issue anyway? ...also I should be hitting the correct part, I guess  .
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Jul 6, 2015 20:21
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also go get hermes sandels for everyone in the party, they're easily the best accessory in the game, they'll save a bunch of buffing turns and also take out like a third of the things that grand cross can do to you e: yeah don't go sword dance fishing, that's just asking for pain. sasuke's/chicken knife with mug is going to do about the same damage overall but without being heavily luck dependent. also katana crits might be doing more than zeninage every time they happen but it's probably going to do less damage overall because the crit rate is so much lower than zeninage's 100% success rate. tbqh you could probably just go get hermes sandals and put zeninage on everyone but the berserker and just throw gil at neo until he dies Fungah! fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Jul 6, 2015 20:21
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Bard/Bard/Samurai/Dancer. Yeehaw. At least it's... a free-ish triple crown? Some day?Simply Simon posted:Just want to double-check my Exdeath strategy so I don't bash my head against him uselessly if there's a far better option. Zerk @ Dual Wield, double Thor's Hammer, Crystal Helmet, Black Garb, Hermes Sandals Samurai @ Dual Wield, Murakumo/Masamune, Crystal Helmet, Black Garb, Hermes Sandals Ninja @ Mug, Chicken Knife/Sasuke's Katana, Black Cowl, Black Garb, Hermes Sandals Thief @ Zeninage, Assassin's Dagger or Main Gauche (based on your not-physical-attacking proviso), Black Cowl, Black Garb, Hermes Sandals
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Jul 6, 2015 20:26
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Tortolia posted:Geomancer: I know on iOS they removed the level limitations attached to certain Gaia actions, but Geomancer was actually a solid performer for me in a lot of environments - Cave-In and some of the desert area attacks were super powerful, and there were a lot of enemies that were quickly dispatched via the Twister/Hurricane style single-digit HP effects on enemies. Obviously there's cases where Gaia is NOT useful, but in those cases I just had them Sing. Also they were my tankiest character, which is kind of sad, but those 200 extra HP actually did matter at times.
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Fungah! posted:also go get hermes sandels for everyone in the party, they're easily the best accessory in the game, they'll save a bunch of buffing turns and also take out like a third of the things that grand cross can do to you I do have four Hermes Sandals (and initially tried the fight with those), I was not really convinced, but I guess I can give it a few more tries. Again, is Thor's Hammer really better than the Rune/Giant's Axe if the Berserker always attacks the front row? EDIT: got it. Thanks! Simply Simon fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Jul 6, 2015 20:31
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Yes, because you can put your Berserker in the back row and the only thing that is a risk to it is Almagest.
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Kyrosiris posted:Bard/Bard/Samurai/Dancer. Yeehaw. At least it's... a free-ish triple crown? Some day? Start farming Elixirs, Adamantoise and Archaeoavis are rough with 4 bards.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:46
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derra posted:Start farming Elixirs, Adamantoise and Archaeoavis are rough with 4 bards. This is part of the good side of fiestamod - I had my Samurai for those. Not that it helped much on Adamantoise.  The bad side is poo poo like Magissa/Forza and Garula with 4 bards.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:50
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Going back to the Sealed Castle after Moore but before meatfort, I take it? I wonder if this would work in Regole to get Krile drunk enough that she channels her dead grandpa.
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Jul 6, 2015 20:56
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KataraniSword posted:Going back to the Sealed Castle after Moore but before meatfort, I take it? I'll try it!
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Jul 6, 2015 21:05
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I am an idiot who deleted my save game trying to redo stuff on my machine. Is there an easy way to cheat back to the Meat Fort?
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Jul 6, 2015 21:06
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Knife run (Ninja, Ninja, Samurai, Dancer) completed. Pretty easy, Shinryu went down quickly as well. Don't feel like grinding for Omega, though. 
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KataraniSword posted:Going back to the Sealed Castle after Moore but before meatfort, I take it? Yep. Is Gil Turtle weak to any elements? I know its completely optional, but I figure I might as well give it a shot since I have the ability to apply Float, Protect, Haste and can cast Golem.
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Jul 6, 2015 21:27
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Ilyich posted:Yep. Ice, but seriously do not waste your time.
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Like any good Final Fantasy amphibian, Gil Turtle is weak to ice. He starts out with Protect and Shell, though, so he won't go down easily. Edit: Beaten like anyone trying to take on Gil Turtle.
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Ilyich posted:Yep. His only weakness is his desire to give out FABULOUS PRIZES!!
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokbJvSEMUY Dance Exdeath to death!
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Bruceski posted:
My Galuf did that, too, only in a fursuit. 
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Ilyich posted:Yep. He's Undead but absorbs Holy. If you have a Bard, you can use that to Requiem him to death. If not, then it's just a mean thing to keep in mind.
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Gilgabot finally found my breaking point. This... is a terrible end-game party. Basically every boss fight is going to be "release four creatures with Breath Wing" which means grinding 1380 ABP in World 2 so that everybody knows !Catch before the Crystals fight. Even four Breath Wings will still leave about 10-15K HP on each part of NED... If I can even kill Tree Exdeath...
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Mustard Iceman posted:Gilgabot finally found my breaking point. knight's good at least, you've got that going for you. and you should be able to a) kill shinryu (and omega) and b) actually use the ragnarok, so that's cool.
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So, Mystic Knight/Samurai/Samurai/Dragoon. Neo Exdeath just 1-shots my entire team with Algamest at his leisure. Should I just throw Jump on everybody and hope enough people are airborne at a time to get through it? It's terribly frustrating.
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Mustard Iceman posted:Even four Breath Wings will still leave about 10-15K HP on each part of NED... If I can even kill Tree Exdeath... It'll be annoying, sure, but manageable. Don't forget about the Magic Lamp either. Odin outright kills the dude at the back of the pack.
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Poulpe posted:So, Mystic Knight/Samurai/Samurai/Dragoon. With Knight/Berserker/Ranger/Samurai my strategy to get rid of Algamest ended up being to have Wall Rings on everyone and hope for Delta Attack to reflect back on it  I'm not sure what the actual odds of that are, but it happened for me twice in four attempts. edit: oh yeah... Break Blade... duh SuperHappy fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Bad Seafood posted:I did it with a Monk, Berserker, Beastmaster, Dancer party. might even be worth holding onto the first few casts too, do bahamut/leviathan/syldra with the rdm/geo and everything else is probably pretty close to dead after the breath wings
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 i took the flame shield. what are you gonna do about it kid? 
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 Got a Gil Turtle kill. Once I got everything set up (Protect, Haste, 2x HP and Golem), it was a simple matter of waiting for Faris to hit him enough times with the Icebrand. I was doing roughly 2,000 damage per hit, it didn't take too long.  I killed Exdeath again too. Forgot to equip my Wall Rings, turned out I didn't need them anyway. 4 Flame Rings and Golem meant that only his Thundaga spells were doing damage once I got him to his 2nd phase. Edit. I tried using Carbuncle instead of Wall Rings, but the effect doesn't last very long and I only managed to reflect 1 spell back at Exdeath. Probably just me being bad at timing. biscuits and crazy fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Poulpe posted:So, Mystic Knight/Samurai/Samurai/Dragoon. You have Mystic Knight. Petrify the piece that casts it with Break Blade. 
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Poulpe posted:So, Mystic Knight/Samurai/Samurai/Dragoon. You have mystic knight; break sword works on the almagest part
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Mustard Iceman posted:Gilgabot finally found my breaking point. Eh, it shouldn't be too bad. Get the Flame Shield instead of the Aegis Shield in the Forest of Moore and the Crystals will be manageable. NED is a bit more annoying, but the Knight does solid damage and probably has enough HP to survive one Almagest, the Geomancer's Wind Slash is pretty decent, and Protect and Cura help out a lot. Edit: The Almagest part is also classified as a Magic Beast, so the Beast Killer Whip will always score a critical hit against it. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Tsurupettan posted:
error Samuel Clemens posted:Get the Flame Shield instead of the Aegis Shield in the Forest of Moore ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE
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if you want flame res for the crystals grind for a single flame ring, it takes like no time with FF and even on hardware it's only like 30-45 minutes (i know because i did it last week). the aegis shield is a million times better
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Fungah! posted:error
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Samuel Clemens posted:Eh, it shouldn't be too bad. Get the Flame Shield instead of the Aegis Shield in the Forest of Moore and the Crystals will be manageable. Dragondarch? Is that you? E: Also I'd swap Bard/Bard/Samurai/Dancer for Knight/Red Mage/Geomancer/Beastmaster in a goddamned heartbeat. That's an amazing team. 
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Fungah! posted:if you want flame res for the crystals grind for a single flame ring, it takes like no time with FF and even on hardware it's only like 30-45 minutes (i know because i did it last week). the aegis shield is a million times better The Aegis Shield is much better for the final areas, but you can get another one in Istory. The only fight before that where you'd really want it is Exdeath, and that fight is pretty easy with a Beastmaster anyway. I'd rather save myself the hassle of grinding for Flame Rings in World 1.
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