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yaay posted:the anti-comet brigade are keen to brush off 'a few extra degrees' of gun depression when it is literally The Most Important Stat this is exactly right. I don't mind being bottom tier in the comet nearly as much as getting a flat map
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yaay posted:the anti-comet brigade are keen to brush off 'a few extra degrees' of gun depression when it is literally The Most Important Stat RanKizama fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Unfortunately for the Comet, the Cromwell has an advantage in things that aren't clicking tanks in this game about not clicking tanks.
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Played two games in arty yesterday. It reminded me why arty is loving awful. Clearly if I do poorly in it, it is awful. AMX 30 Proto remains a total loving monster. Only if it had slightly better aim time, then it would be
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TheFluff posted:I really don't understand the amerigoon hardon for the Comet. It's a thoroughly mediocre tank that in many ways is worse than the Cromwell. It has a lower top speed, lower HP/ton ratio and higher ground resistance so it's a lot more sluggish. What you gain in exchange is seventy-five (75) more DPM, a turret that very occasionally may bounce a thing, a few degrees of gun depression and gun handling that isn't the garbage the Cromwell has (still not super impressive, though). It plays sort of like the Easy Eight except one tier higher, which kinda sounds cool but it really isn't. agreed, the pershing is also in many ways worse than the t20
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Control Volume posted:agreed, the pershing is also in many ways worse than the t20 nah
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Control Volume posted:agreed, the pershing is also in many ways worse than the t20 The American medium line is pretty all over the place. It's weird, but a lot of fun and it helped teach me how to adjust my playstyle based on vehicle and map characteristics.
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TheFluff posted:nah think about it, it trades the t20s excellent mobility for armor that's unreliable even against tier 6s, gun handling that's not appreciably better, 20mm more penetration that doesn't mean much even though the t20 can go through anything it sees with gold rounds, and the only quantifiably good improvement is the DPM which isn't that great compared to other tier 8 mediums.
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RanKizama posted:The American medium line is pretty all over the place. It's weird, but a lot of fun and it helped teach me how to adjust my playstyle based on vehicle and map characteristics. And yet you still cannot play well in the best tier seven or on the best map. Shameful anime.
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Hellsau posted:And yet you still cannot play well in the best tier seven or on the best map. Shameful anime. Ohhhhh shiiiitttttttt
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Hellsau posted:best tier seven Hellsau posted:best map 
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The LTTB is super ridiculous. Tier 7 light tanks shouldn't be able to average 2200 dpg. I need a clan now.. Any ideas?
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Control Volume posted:think about it, it trades the t20s excellent mobility for armor that's unreliable even against tier 6s, gun handling that's not appreciably better, 20mm more penetration that doesn't mean much even though the t20 can go through anything it sees with gold rounds, and the only quantifiably good improvement is the DPM which isn't that great compared to other tier 8 mediums. The mobility difference isn't huge, certainly less significant than the ~25% lower top speed the Comet has compared to the Cromwell. Both have good gun handling and penetration appropriate to their tier. The Pershing has 200+ more DPM which is also a difference appropriate to its higher tier. It low DPM compared to other T8 mediums (just like the T20's DPM is bad compared to other T7 mediums) but it's still a significant improvement over the previous tank in the line. The Pershing is not a huge improvement over the T20 but neither is it worse. The thing with the Cromwell is that it has one big gimmick and that's going really fast and having good DPM at the expense of gun handling. The Comet sorta takes away this gimmick while keeping almost everything else except the gun handling and gun depression the same as on the Cromwell. That's why I'm saying it's worse than the Cromwell in some ways. Meanwhile the T20 and the Pershing have mostly the same gimmick, the Pershing just does more of it.
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the black prince is also just as bad as the churchill VII. it has a mediocre gun, the same top speed, armor that's still full of weakpoints, and all it gets is gun handling
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^^^ this is getting out-of-hand. mods?!RanKizama posted:Map so good it doesn't exist anymore. It's well-established that WG's map team hate good maps.
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the patton: less armor than the t-54 and e-50, less mobile than the former and much less accurate than both. its only benefit is gun handling. conclusion: it must be a bad tank, like the comet and pershing
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Control Volume posted:the black prince is also just as bad as the churchill VII. it has a mediocre gun, the same top speed, armor that's still full of weakpoints, and all it gets is gun handling the black prince has a hidden winrate bonus though Control Volume posted:the patton: less armor than the t-54 and e-50, less mobile than the former and much less accurate than both. its only benefit is gun handling. conclusion: it must be a bad tank, like the comet and pershing the patton loving owns, much unlike the comet TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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TheFluff posted:the black prince has a hidden winrate bonus though sorry, the comet, pershing, and patton are objectively terrible tanks whose tier for tier performance i haven't been able to match with any other tank except the e-75
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Control Volume posted:sorry, the comet, pershing, and patton are objectively terrible tanks whose tier for tier performance i haven't been able to match with any other tank except the e-75
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Control Volume posted:sorry, the comet, pershing, and patton are objectively terrible tanks whose tier for tier performance i haven't been able to match with any other tank except the e-75 there's nothing wrong with being a mediocre tank liker, no need to get all defensive on me mister volume TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Jul 7, 2015 18:43
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It never fails to amaze me how the Comet always seems to set this thread on fire. Always.
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TheFluff posted:there's nothing wrong with being a mediocre tank liker, no need to get all defensive on me mister volume the only mediocre tank i like is the panther
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Control Volume posted:the only mediocre tank i like is the panther
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Mesadoram posted:It never fails to amaze me how the Comet always seems to set this thread on fire. no but seriously though, I really like the cromwell's ability to gofast and was disappointed because the comet does not gofast and I have other tanks that I like to play if I want to snapshoot things (like, all of them after the accuracy changes). that's pretty much it really. well toodles
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Control Volume posted:the only mediocre tank i like is the panther I kinda like the Chi-Ri, and I will probably get the Panther pretty soon. I should really rebuy the Comet, Pershing and T20 since they were all great tanks. There are worse tanks in those tiers, so I don't know what we actually are discussing?
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RanKizama posted:I'm finally about to unlock that thing. Is it average overall or does it have some particularly good thing that it's good at? It's a bizarre tank. It has no alpha with weak/average dpm. It has good accuracy and amazing pen (its standard round is basically a gold round in tier). So you would think it needs to play the role of a DPM sniper. But, its camo value is poo poo. It does have ~200 extra HP relative to other mediums in tier, but no armor (excepting the front of the turret). Needless to say I'm not a big fan of it.
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RanKizama posted:I'm finally about to unlock that thing. Is it average overall or does it have some particularly good thing that it's good at? it might be better now that guns overall got less accurate so other guns don't have the same pinpoint accuracy that the panther does, but all the good sniper spots are wide open to artillery these days and the panther does not deal with artillery well the panther is real good at tracking things though, if you can see a track you can permatrack them if they dont have a repair kit
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Mesadoram posted:Played two games in arty yesterday. It reminded me why arty is loving awful. God I love that tank. My only complaint- I just spent 32k XP to unlock the last engine in it and I don't feel any difference in the way it plays. Was hoping for a bit more acceleration or something. Still a complete monster, and a great reason for me to buy the CDC.
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 If only the time limit on assault was 11 minutes.  Also, 3002D remains best tier 7 medium.
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LostCosmonaut posted:
Don't play bad game modes. LostCosmonaut posted:Also, 3002D remains best tier 7 medium. 
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Mesadoram posted:Don't play bad game modes. 
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RanKizama posted:I formed a platoon with a 57% player yesterday since we worked well together in a random match. First match we had as an assault match. I've had this mode disabled for about two years now. I almost forgot how to play it. Yeah, it throws me too whenever I join a platoon with some bozo who has left them on.
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Control Volume posted:the black prince is also just as bad as the churchill VII. it has a mediocre gun, the same top speed, armor that's still full of weakpoints, and all it gets is gun handling Watch your god drat mouth.
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I unironically like all of the British heavies 
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Mesadoram posted:I unironically like all of the British heavies The only one I don't like is the Chruchill VII. The BP is made of magic and candy and owns.
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unlawfulsoup posted:Yeah, it throws me too whenever I join a platoon with some bozo who has left them on.
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You guys will love the A45. It is another slow shitheap predicated on the idea that your enemy is dumb enough to sit in front of you.
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RanKizama posted:I don't mind Encounter mode and actually enable it from time to time, but Assault mode really messes with me apparently. I just followed him and focus-fired whatever it was he was shooting at. lol I like Encounter to, Assault is way too reliant on your teammates though for my taste.
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