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Suzaku posted:
Despite being 1hr 41mins, it's actually worth it in some weird sense.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:05
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Gunchat was probably the highlight. Like, what did that guy even want Jim to say? "OK yes, the sounds were, in fact, purchased from a reputable company and made from real gun sounds. Congrats on buying sounds you didn't make and don't fit into your game's aesthetic!" He just... needed that validation so badly.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:08
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"Tell you audience not to buy my games." "I will BEG THEM not to buy your games!" And wow, hes really bitter about the Patreon money.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:15
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Roman Reigns posted:And wow, hes really bitter about the Patreon money. I believe you mean paa-treon money.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:19
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Listening to it a second time, I'm almost certain this guy was drunk. That or his brain functions as though he was drunk on a daily basis.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:24
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Judging from the other guy whispering in his ear, I'm guessing he lives/works in a bubble and put nearly zero effort in research for his defense against Sterling and expected to just wing it with what he found and what his advisor was telling him.
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Jul 3, 2015 23:45
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I absolutely love the fallacy from people that make and do things that you must make or do that thing in order to be able to critique it. It pops up anywhere where people can be criticized and I laugh every time. Basically what he's saying is he wants sympathy for his bad games because making a good game is really hard and you'd be more understanding if you did it yourself. Also, pulling out that card never accomplishes a point or serves an argument, it's just you trying to poo poo on the guy who poo poo on your thing because it's poo poo. I see it a lot in art, media, and funnily enough sports. Somebody calls a basketball player lovely and they respond by asking "have you ever played professional basketball?"
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Jul 4, 2015 01:51
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GNU Order posted:I absolutely love the fallacy from people that make and do things that you must make or do that thing in order to be able to critique it. It pops up anywhere where people can be criticized and I laugh every time. Basically what he's saying is he wants sympathy for his bad games because making a good game is really hard and you'd be more understanding if you did it yourself. You're a bad Blood Bowl player. I know this as a pro-Blood Bowl player. Edit - Seriously, the guy legitimately can't handle any form of criticism and it's sad. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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Jul 4, 2015 03:15
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GNU Order posted:I absolutely love the fallacy from people that make and do things that you must make or do that thing in order to be able to critique it. It pops up anywhere where people can be criticized and I laugh every time. Basically what he's saying is he wants sympathy for his bad games because making a good game is really hard and you'd be more understanding if you did it yourself. I end up seeing it a ton professionally now as well, sadly enough. I think a big part of it is that people just don't want to admit they failed at something and are looking to deflect in some way. I think it becomes easy to justify the argument for people working in games and other media because there is a ton more that goes into making the game than in making a video or writing an article about it. People will spend years of their lives working on some games only to have some guy spend eight hours playing it and then another 30 minutes writing a thousand word review, so in a way it is sort of understandable the developers would be upset they get bad reviews. On the other hand, as adults they should be aware that just because your job is complicated doesn't mean you deserve automatic praise for just showing up.
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Jul 4, 2015 04:37
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Lazyfire posted:People will spend years of their lives working on some games only to have some guy spend eight hours playing it and then another 30 minutes writing a thousand word review, so in a way it is sort of understandable the developers would be upset they get bad reviews. On the other hand, as adults they should be aware that just because your job is complicated doesn't mean you deserve automatic praise for just showing up. This happens with video production as well though. Projects can be in development for years before filming, with various folks chasing a dream project only to have it shat upon by a reviewer. It happens and people move on and learn from the mistakes and issues pointed out for the most part. Sometimes they act OK with the critique, other times they make dumb comments to defend their work because they felt what they made was great and free of issues. They don't usually spend months making personal jabs at a reviewer who critiques their work because its just petty, and that's what Digital Homicide did and it shows their lack of professional maturity. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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Jul 4, 2015 04:50
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The dev gets tantalizingly close to some valid points (you've unfairly singled me out time after time, I'm always trying to fix technical or copyright errors, as a one man dev team I have a greater personal attachment to my product) but ends up taking a sharp right turn into logical cherry picking and conspiracy theory town. But hey you can never lose an argument if you only hear and understand things in such a way that it always supports your opinion! Also love that he thinks you can make your game suddenly fun just by fixing all the bugs.
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GNU Order posted:Also love that he thinks you can make your game suddenly fun just by fixing all the bugs. "How come my book report on Moby Dick got an F?" "Because you just wrote the sentence 'There is a whale in it.' 500 times." "But I spelled all the words right!"
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Jul 4, 2015 05:17
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dreezy posted:"How come my book report on Moby Dick got an F?" That'd still be more interesting than the segment of the book on tying knots.
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Jul 4, 2015 05:53
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Attachment to a product is a fine thing, but the review is looking at it from the perspective of a consumer who's going to spend money on the product. It's like a parent who tapes their kid's crayon drawing on the fridge - they're proud of their child's effort and want to make their kid feel appreciated, but I'm pretty sure most of them are aware that they can't frame that drawing and sell it at an art gallery. (Then again, given the sensibilities of modern art, maybe they could.) If I were a developer, I'd consider those reviews to be valuable feedback for how to make better games. If you want good reviews, make better games.
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Jul 4, 2015 12:27
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Nidoking posted:(Then again, given the sensibilities of modern art, maybe they could.) Someone's never heard of outsider art.
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Nidoking posted:Attachment to a product is a fine thing, but the review is looking at it from the perspective of a consumer who's going to spend money on the product. It's like a parent who tapes their kid's crayon drawing on the fridge - they're proud of their child's effort and want to make their kid feel appreciated, but I'm pretty sure most of them are aware that they can't frame that drawing and sell it at an art gallery. (Then again, given the sensibilities of modern art, maybe they could.) If I were a developer, I'd consider those reviews to be valuable feedback for how to make better games. If you want good reviews, make better games. But it's not a fair critique for you to not provide positive comments on the product. So says Digital Homicide.
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Jul 4, 2015 18:52
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Bruceski posted:That'd still be more interesting than the segment of the book on tying knots. They bought those knots from a professional knot-making company. Those are real knots.
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Jul 4, 2015 19:06
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Like, at this point the guy has to know most of his notoriety isn't for making entertaining games but for being 1) a bad game dev, 2) someone who abuses DMCA on YouTube, and 3) someone who is comically bad at presenting an argument to support their point.
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In their case the old and flawed maxim of "negative publicity is better than no publicity" seems to hod true. Nobody would know about their existence, but because they found their pet review writer, they can fill headlines despite not achieving anything of note. It's a symbiotic relationship of Sterling wanting manufactured drama to improve his readership, and his "enemies" wanting the same drama because they would be complete nobodies without it. At this point in time it's quite clear there exists a whole market segment consisting of cheap games made simply to be presented in humorous critique videos, because even if the review recommends not making a purchase, some idiots will buy the product just to verify the review.
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Jul 5, 2015 01:45
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steinrokkan posted:At this point in time it's quite clear there exists a whole market segment consisting of cheap games made simply to be presented in humorous critique videos, because even if the review recommends not making a purchase, some idiots will buy the product just to verify the review. YouTube bait. Jumpscare parades, wacky XD random poo poo, and incompetent garbage. The lifeblood of crappy youtubers and crappy developers.
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GNU Order posted:I see it a lot in art, media, and funnily enough sports. Somebody calls a basketball player lovely and they respond by asking "have you ever played professional basketball?" dreezy posted:YouTube bait. Jumpscare parades, wacky XD random poo poo, and incompetent garbage. The lifeblood of crappy youtubers and crappy developers. SnakemanMn fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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Jul 5, 2015 05:55
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The thing I loved the most about the interview is him praising himself for his games being literally free thanks to steam trading cards. I am almost certain he gets more money from the steam marketplace then the steam store.
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Jul 5, 2015 18:48
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Shaded Spriter posted:The thing I loved the most about the interview is him praising himself for his games being literally free thanks to steam trading cards. I am almost certain he gets more money from the steam marketplace then the steam store. Jim Sterling has actually made a game or two? That's kinda surprising, given the result is likely to be on par with the crap he tends to "review".
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steinrokkan posted:Jim Sterling has actually made a game or two? That's kinda surprising, given the result is likely to be on par with the crap he tends to "review". No, they're talking about the Digital Homicide dev saying that. Jim has done VO work for games though, like Jazzpunk.
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Jul 6, 2015 00:33
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Is there a good offsite LP of Billy Hatcher And The Giant Egg?
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Jul 7, 2015 16:34
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SnakemanMn posted:The only reason why Goat Simulator exists. To be fair to Goat Simulator, it was never going to even be released until lots of people saw it and thought it was really funny and should be released.
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There's a bunch of hubub about PewDiePie's income that was reported http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/7/8909553/pewdiepie-7-4-million-response-felix-kjellberg-youtube His video talking about it which is pretty good in terms of a response/discussion on it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn0y3Opb8Wk
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Jul 8, 2015 00:37
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Unfunny Poster posted:There's a bunch of hubub about PewDiePie's income that was reported The headline to the article amuses me, because it is actually the exact opposite of the truth
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inthesto posted:The headline to the article amuses me, because it is actually the exact opposite of the truth
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Jul 8, 2015 00:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TXhVfhP6w An actual video Digital Homicide 'made' and posted.
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kirbysuperstar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TXhVfhP6w
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Jul 9, 2015 05:36
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So I have some bad news guys, and I might be wrong about this....but it appears that Richard Gamingo's youtube channel is no more.
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Jul 9, 2015 05:40
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kirbysuperstar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TXhVfhP6w Of course comments are disabled. I wonder if they did that before posting, or if they had to quickly do that afterwards.
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senrath posted:Of course comments are disabled. I wonder if they did that before posting, or if they had to quickly do that afterwards. hahaha, they only just now did that. i was reading some of those comments earlier and it consisted of everyone calling him a dipshit.
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Jul 9, 2015 07:00
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So, someone actually did transcribe the "interview".
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Jul 9, 2015 07:08
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senrath posted:Of course comments are disabled. I wonder if they did that before posting, or if they had to quickly do that afterwards.
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Jul 9, 2015 07:28
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senrath posted:So, someone actually did transcribe the "interview". This is a lot easier to follow with a script in front of me, and I can't believe the poo poo that's coming out of this man's mouth dh: y-you think that a three foot purple dildo on your shoulder is respectful to your women viewers?
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Niggurath posted:So I have some bad news guys, and I might be wrong about this....but it appears that Richard Gamingo's youtube channel is no more. Is there no God?!
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Richard Gamingoing, going, Richard Gamingone
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