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docbeard posted:Is it wrong that I want the Master to invite herself aboard the TARDIS as a companion next season? Not as part of any kind of elaborate scheme, just hanging out and declaring that she is in fact the Doctor's best bud and trying to "help" and complicating everything because they can't work out how to get rid of her.
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docbeard posted:Is it wrong that I want the Master to invite herself aboard the TARDIS as a companion next season? Not as part of any kind of elaborate scheme, just hanging out and declaring that she is in fact the Doctor's best bud and trying to "help" and complicating everything because they can't work out how to get rid of her. Re-do the Pertwee/Delgado dynamic? If they did it for three, four episodes maximum I could dig it.
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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:I would actually like it if the Doctor basically took her hostage for a few episodes and they were grudging companions until she betrays him inevitably and gets away. Give them a chance to be friends again for a little bit. So Scream of the Shalka?
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Master: I say we ally with the Betrayouralliesaurians in order to give them the technology they need to conquer the world! Doctor: ....but.... then they'd betray us. Master:  ....you see, this is why we're such a great team!
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I was specifically thinking like 7 and Klein from the audios. I've never seen Scream, is it any good?
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Organza Quiz posted:So Scream of the Shalka? No, something good.
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Jerusalem posted:Master: I say we ally with the Betrayouralliesaurians in order to give them the technology they need to conquer the world! Master: Alright, new plan, my dear Doctor. We go to planet Backstabbicus in the Judas Galaxy, and... Doctor: Let's try to top that.
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Bicyclops posted:Master: Alright, new plan, my dear Doctor. We go to planet Backstabbicus in the Judas Galaxy, and... Master: Fine. We'll go to 1970's America and work with Richard Nixon! X X X X X BTW, happy 96th birthday to the dearly departed Doctor John Smith! 
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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:I was specifically thinking like 7 and Klein from the audios. I've never seen Scream, is it any good? It's terrible but I remember enjoying the Master in it. It's also interesting to watch while keeping in mind that this was supposed to be the Official Continuation of the story before the revival happened.
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It's always weird to see Sarah Sutton, because she sounds so exactly like she did on the show that I always expect her not to have aged at all, and to be dressed in the Traken dress.
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So because this became a thing I could safely recommend, I am going to! A note ahead of time, this is region locked to America, but if you can get past Region Locks, as I am aware that is a thing that can be done, that won't matter too much. So Shout Factory has recently started a streaming service of the various properties they have the rights to, including loads of interesting movies and classic TV shows, and one god awful K9 series no one should ever acknowledge. The other thing they have? Two SciFi series with roots almost as far back as Doctor Who itself. Let's scroll back a bit to 1954 however. In 1954 a Japanese studio decided to make a giant monster movie. To bring this film into reality, they got the visionary director Ishirô Honda and the soon to be legendary special effects director Eiji Tsuburaya. What they created lives on today as one of the most enduring and ever lasting properties, far out stripping any contemporaries, Godzilla. Eiji Tsuburaya pioneered an entire new breed of practical effects, and went on to found his own studio to explore it further on the TV medium. The first TV series he created was inspired heavily by Twilight Zone and, more so, Outer Limits, with a giant monster twist. In production from 1964 through 1965 and airing into 1966, this series was ULTRA Q http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/series/ultra-q With only the barest of connections, each episode was effectively its own mini movie or sci fi adventure, with only two directly connected pairs of episodes in the relatively short library. Episodes 5 and 14 and episodes 13 and 16. If you're a fan of classic giant monsters and would like to see an example of it in 25 minutes, it's not at all a bad venture. However it isn't the main series I'm shilling here, oh no. After Ultra Q Tsuburaya decided to step up production and the ambitions of the company and created the now iconic Ultraman. Now every episode was a giant monster or sci fi movie, but with a super hero thrown into the mix. The plots were still relatively simple but the effects and goals expanded and grew. A dubbed, cut down version can be found on Hulu if you're interested but this also is not what I'm interested in talking about. Tsuburaya decided, when it came time to end the first block, 39 episodes, of Ultraman, to end the series and start anew. What was created then is unarguably one of the best series of the Ultra franchise, superior in many respects to the original, and is one of the classic Sci Fi series in history. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/series/ultra-seven UltraSeven, made in 1967, is a very different series compared to anything else in the Ultraman franchise. Here the stories tend to be character driven, with highconcept plots and concepts littered throughout. It also has almost no focus on giant monsters, and is instead very much based on Alien Invasions. The show is remarkably similar in concept to the Third Doctor's era, only with a super hero instead of James Bond. The series is about the Ultra Garrison, a United Nations backed military organization (sound familiar?) investigating alien and otherwordly threats as they arise. Secretly, one of the members of the Ultra Garrison is actually a benign alien himself, who the humans have taken to call UltraSeven when he arrives to help save the day. UltraSeven has several very excellent episodes even to this day, including one plot that is an allegory for the Cold War, and more specifically the Cuban Missile Crisis, from the unique perspective of Japan in 1967. It also tackles issues of xenophobia, mutual self destruction, and paranoia. However UltraSeven could also have pure, fun adventure stories, both on the human scale and the super human. If you like Classic Doctor Who, or TOS Star Trek, definitely give this a look see. The effects are excellent for the time usually, with a few stinkers here and there of course, and the show is nothing if not ambitious. With every episode only running 25 minutes and generally being self contained, it's worth a shot. Some episodes I'd recommend, ignoring the three big Two Parters, are http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/the-invisible-challenger/5591b9e069702d071ce0ec00 The Invisible Challenger is the first episode and introduces us to the setting and main cast. The plot isn't anything special, but it does help to show the scope the show aims for. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/the-cursed-town/5591bd0669702d072200f000 The Cursed/Targeted Town, which I present mostly without comment. Just a classic of the show. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/underground-go-go-go/5591bd3c69702d071c53ee00 This episode is the origin for UltraSeven himself, why he looks the way he does and why he chose to remain on Earth. Buried beneath that is an interesting mystery featuring underground robots and Earthquake machines. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/super-weapon-r-1/5591bd5a69702d04e1baf300 The Cuban Missile Crisis, with the Ultra Garrison as the US, the Aliens as the Soviets, and UltraSeven as Japan. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/the-700-kilometer-run/5591d13a69702d071c7df700 A pure action adventure episode mostly done on the human scale, with a big climatic battle against a giant DINOSAUR TANK, a dinosaur cyborg with a tank for its lower half that has laser eyes. Just a lot of drat fun. http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/the-courageous-battle/5591d22869702d071cf5f700 A pure Super Hero episode. Has kind of a doofy robot enemy, but everything else is firing on all cylinders. Excellent even if it's your first episode. Finally I'll suggest http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/ultra-seven/nightmare-on-planet-4/5591e13269702d04e1c70301 This wonderful thing. The only thing I'll say about it is that it is effectively the most Twilight Zone episode of all of them. Would not be out of place at all with Rod Serling stepping in as the narrator. I hope some one takes this recommendation and checks out Seven, at the least, and enjoys it. It truly is worth it if you enjoy classic SciFi series.
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Sounds great, I'll see if I can bypass the region lock and give it a go when I get a chance.
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I enjoy the Potato Butler. Too bad about the other two.
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Burkion posted:So because this became a thing I could safely recommend, I am going to! You're going to have to be more specific.
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Having now listened to The Reaping, I...honestly thought Lidster both captured and critiqued the Saward era of Peter Davison Standing On A Pile Of Bodies Lamenting That There Wasn't A Better Way pretty well. I'm as surprised as you.
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If it wasn't for the "twist," The Reaping would have been pretty solid and a good quasi-sequel to Attack of the Cybermen. As it is, though, you hit the nail on the head that it is very much an "everyone dies" story with some optimism brought about by Colin and Nicola.Toxxupation posted:wait let me fix it for you guys This is the best opinion you've ever had, sir.
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Toxxupation posted:wait let me fix it for you guys The gif should really probably be the opening gif for the spoiler thread. It'd be very accurate during any active period.
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Toxxupation posted:wait let me fix it for you guys Wait... which of us is Strax and which of us is Clara? Given we can't agree on anything.... both?
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Jerusalem posted:Wait... which of us is Strax and which of us is Clara? We're the guys screwing around with the TARDIS in the background.
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CobiWann posted:If it wasn't for the "twist," The Reaping would have been pretty solid and a good quasi-sequel to Attack of the Cybermen. As it is, though, you hit the nail on the head that it is very much an "everyone dies" story with some optimism brought about by Colin and Nicola. ...wait, I'm an idiot, I was thinking of The Gathering. Though yeah, come to think of it, that assessment holds true for everything but the last couple minutes of The Reaping, too. That twist is unforgivably stupid, though, and completely unnecessary even to the extent that it set up the events of The Gathering. It's still head and shoulders above Lidster's previous efforts, with the possible exception of 3/4ths of Master.
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docbeard posted:It's still head and shoulders above Lidster's previous efforts, with the possible exception of 3/4ths of Master. That's what frustrates me about Lidster. He's a decent writer, but his story go off the rails into fan fiction incredibly quickly. The Rapture was rubbish, but his other stories showed a progression of improvement, with The Gathering being his best so far. They're just overshadowed by his need to make everyone miserable and add some huge game-changer that means very little in the long run.
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Yeah, "Master" is mostly great, but boy does it fly apart at the end. Til the dumb twist, it was pretty much my favorite 7th Doctor story.
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The Reaping is just too full on with horrible scenes like Peri listening in on her mother and best friend talking about how they wish she'd never returned, or the godawful caricature that is Mrs Fizackaly or however you pronounce it. The lovely ending is just the icing on a terrible cake, about the only saving grace of the story is Colin Baker. The Gathering is a lot more palatable, outside of a couple of bad characters, and even the often maligned tumor stuff is handled fine, if only because Fielding overwhelms Lidster's misery porn through sheer force of character.
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Jerusalem posted:Sounds great, I'll see if I can bypass the region lock and give it a go when I get a chance. I hope you can, and that you enjoy it! I'll warn, it's technically a bit...violent, but in a very fake kind of way. One of UltraSeven's main ways of finishing off enemies is this blade that sits ontop of his head. He takes it off and either uses it as a hatchet or throws it. Limbs and heads regularly....fly off.
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  Ostend, 1913. War is coming. A war in which millions will die. And the guest in suite 139 of the Hotel Palace Thermae knows it. Which is odd, considering he has trotters, a snout and a lovely curly tail. Toby the Sapient Pig is a swine on the run. Two peculiar strangers have been hunting him across Europe. The first, Miss Alice Bultitude, is an Englishwoman and collector of obscure theatrical ephemera. The second, Inspector Alphonse Chardalot, is a celebrated member of the detective police - the man who brought the trunk murderess of St Germain to justice. This was supposed to be a reading week for the Doctor and Peri. Now they must do battle with a villain who wants to wipe every last human from the face of the earth - once he's had just another dish of truffles. And maybe a valedictory glass of fizzy lemonade. Colin Baker is the Doctor in Year of the Pig. X X X X X Cast Colin Baker (The Doctor) Nicola Bryant (Peri) Adjoa Andoh (Nurse Albertine) Paul Brooke (Toby the Sapient Pig) Michael Keating (Inspector Chardalot) Maureen O'Brien (Miss Alice Bultitude) Written By: Matthew Sweet Directed By: Gary Russell Trailer - http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/year-of-the-pig-256 X X X X X Sometimes, things just get weird. I've seen green sunsets, I've tasted roast cobra, I'm stood among one thousand people chanting the lyrics to “Enter Sandman” as a middle-aged man with a beer gut chugged seven beers on his way through the crowd to a wrestling ring...hell, I've even seen a grown man satisfy a camel. But this one is really, really, REALLY out there. In a very good way. The CD cover to Year of the Pig tells the entire story; the Sixth Doctor meets a well-cultured, sharply dressed sapient pig. It's definitely not a standard Doctor Who Big Finish story, relying very heavily on dialogue and character interaction to tell its story. But listeners who let it digest for a bit will find that it's an absolutely incredible piece of audio that's a true feast for the senses. Finally, the Sixth Doctor sighs, an incarnation with the time and temperament to sit at the Belgian seaside resort of Ostend and enjoy a little bit of Proust. It's not quite Peri's cup of tea, but she's willing to enjoy the sights and sounds of 1913 Europe on the eve of the Great War. But by the very virtue of their presence, the pair have drawn attention from a variety of visitors. First is Inspector Chardalot, the famous French detective who has brought many a criminal to justice. Then there is Miss Alice Bultitude, world traveler and experienced busybody. And finally, peering through a telescope from a shuttered wing of the Hotel Palace Thermae is a very well dressed, well spoken, and well fed porcine, whose curiosity is tempered by the knowledge that, indeed, one of these visitors is here to kill him. As I listened to Year of the Pig, the foremost thing in my mind was how this story just might be the audio equivalent of the movie My Dinner With Andre, an amazing movie that's simply ninety-plus minutes of Wallace Shawn and Andre Gregory having a conversation about their lives. Year of the Pig carefully rations out any depiction of physical action , instead giving the listener nearly two-and-a-half hours of dialogue and description. But much like The Holy Terror, describing this audio doesn't do it justice. Year of the Pig is incredibly detailed and rich, with interesting characters and a plot that takes its time getting to the conclusion, but does so by sitting back and relaxing instead of wandering all over the place. There's simply no rush to this story, and while a few red herrings are dangled in front of the listener they are quickly gobbled up by the advancing story. For such a long story, Year of the Pig is incredibly easy to listen to and digest on the part of the listener. The writer of the piece, one Matthew Sweet (not to be confused with the American musician) holds a doctorate on 19th century sensation fiction from Oxford University and is a regular presenter on the BBC Radio 3 arts and philosophy program Night Waves. Not quite the man one would expect to pen a Doctor Who story, Sweet has also penned the Seventh Doctor audio The Magic Mousetrap and two Jago & Litefoot stories. His background in sensation fiction and philosophy serves Year of the Pig very well, as not only do characters discuss the finer points of life and existence, but also the era of “freak shows” and “cabinets of curiosities.” In some ways, save for some bonkers off-the-wall science that builds throughout the story, Year of the Pig could be considered an historical. There WERE “sapient pigs” who displayed their (and their handlers) “talents” throughout Europe, among the other curiosities mentioned, although none on the level of Toby. And what about Toby? While all of the characters have their moment, Year of the Pig is all about Paul Brooke's performance as Toby the Sapient Pig. Brooke is perhaps the quintessential British “That Guy” actor, having appeared in numerous movies and television series through a 40+ year career. It would have been incredibly easy for Brooke to, and this is the only time I will make this joke, ham it up, but while Toby possesses many porcine qualities Brooke imbues him with an incredible amount of class, charm, and wonder. Toby is a pig who might not quite remember his past (his parents were from Essex, and they looked just like everyone else who lived there!) but he bears no shame about his past. He was PROUD to be part of a “freak show” with a promoter who treated his charges with kindness and respect, allowing Toby to make a large amount of money which lets him enjoy a very comfortable retirement that consists of a lot of records, movies, and food...along with some technology that shouldn't even exist in this time period. Even under duress from the ultimate villain, Toby maintains a calm, cool, proper posture, more concerns about the buffet cart than being carved up and an apple stuffed in his mouth. Much as The Holy Terror made a shape-shifting penguin believable, Paul Brooke's performance helps to bring the character of Toby the Sapient Pig to life. On the other side of the table sits Colin Baker, as only the Sixth Doctor could establish a strong rapport with a talking swine. Baker is always a delight, and in Year of the Pig he seems to be relishing every single line he delivers with the utmost sense of personal glee. This just might be the most fun Colin Baker's had recording a Big Finish audio, digesting every line of a script that mixes the absurd with the just the right of personal drama. This is a Doctor who means to spend a little quiet time on the Belgian seashore, but when he saves a man from drowning, events are set in motion that find the Doctor sitting opposite of Toby, who he sees him only as someone who needs his help. He treats Toby just as he could anyone else he meets, which speaks volumes for the Doctor's personality how he judges people by their character, not by their appearance. Of course there's something deeper going on and the Doctor must find out what (as always), but the story never becomes about “and on your right is a talking pig.” Baker's performance, mixing curiosity and the Doctor's penchant for doing the right thing, goes a long way towards establishing this story's bonafides. With the Doctor and Toby at the forefront, it's not a surprise that Peri takes a back seat in this story. But Sweet's script still keeps Nicola Bryant by using her to help keep the various characters seperated. Be it escorting Miss Bultitude for an after dinner stroll, or accompanying the Inspector to a clandestine meetings in the Turkish baths, Peri serves as the sounding board and exposition girl for Year of the Pig, but does so from both directions, answering and asking questions of the secondary characters. Peri also serves as the straight-forward comic relief in this story, including a scene where she demands the Doctor hose her down with a fire extinguisher after being locked inside the Turkish baths and a firm demand that, even though they need to flag down a train, she “won't wav her panties in the air for anyone.” As an aside, I've noticed that Bryant tends to get the more “risque” lines with Big Finish, such as her “bumps in the front” comment from The Kingmaker. Granted, Peri might be the only character who could pull off risque lines...imagine Nyssa making a comment about her underwear. Go on. You can't, can you?...it's just a trend I've started to pick up as the main range speeds along. Year of the Pig boasts a fine secondary cast of Doctor Who veterans. Inspector Chardalot is played by Michael Keating, best known for his role as Vila in Blake's 7 but also as Major Koth in the Eighth Doctor audio The Twilight Kingdom and Goudry in the Fourth Doctor serial The Sun Makers. Chardalot is a larger-than-life Paris detective, or so it seems. Keating, much like Moore, plays his character without going over the top; he brags, but he also backs up what he says and is determined to capture his quarry for his own nefarious ends. His final scene is a highlight, very disturbing and very moving as Chardalot tries to explain just what everything was for. Toby's companion Nurse Albertine is played by Adjoa Andoh, who is best known as Francine Jones, mother to the Tenth Doctor's companion Martha Jones. Andoh gives us a great turn as Toby's long-time nurse, who stays with him even though she wishes she could see more of the world than swanky hotel rooms, and will do whatever it takes to rescue him when he gets kidnapped. There's a sublime weariness underlying Andoh's performance, someone who is tired of wandering but wants to protect her charge. Maureen O'Brien returns to Doctor Who nearly 40 years after playing Vicki, a companion of the First Doctor. Miss Bultitude is a bit scattered brained, but holds a very big respect for Toby, doing whatever it takes to meet him. Take your stereotypical sun-addled British aristocrat, add a reverence for the bizarre, and roll it up with the grace of years of breeding and that's O'Brien's performance. Bultitude wants to meet Toby out of respect, not to satisfy some grotesque curiosity. And that really adds to the performance, especially when she goes so far as to apologize to Toby for buying a cheap stuffed statue of an incontinent monkey. Now, I know that last sentence is a bit odd, but it's delivered in an honest and forthright manner. Year of the Pig is played completely straight with no “wink wink” by the writer towards the listeners. Sweet's script isn't making fun of the “freak shows” of the past in a “look how enlightened we are now” manner. He's presenting everything exactly as it was, including the ideas and mannerisms of the time (a moment when Nurse Albertine proclaims “and she was coloured” completely threw me for a moment!) with no apologies. It's all done with the utmost care and respect for the time period, even as the science fiction aspects are slowly poured into the story like layers added to a fine chocolate cake. And this even goes for a scene where a herd of cows explode over the beach like case shot, a true “what the hell” moment that gets explained later in the story. Add to everything some solid sound work for everything from a seaside resort to a train rumbling through the Belgian countryside, and Year of the Pig establishes itself as a story that demands to be heard. It's not for everyone, with a slow pace, a long run time, and a major emphasis on talking over action. And of course the concept of “The Sixth Doctor meets a talking pig” might be a turn-off for some people. But for those who belly up to the table and give the story a try, Year of the Pig is an absolute delight, a six-course meal of rich conversation, dense characters, tasty plot lines. Pros + A rich story with fantastic dialogue and interesting characters + Colin Baker enjoying the hell out of himself + Paul Brooke turning in a heartfelt performance as Toby the Sapient Pig + A respectful and honest look back at the “freak show” era Cons - Long run time - The slow pace may turn off some listeners - A high concept that might turn off other listeners  Synopsis – Year of the Pig is a true feast for the senses that serves up a rich plot, unique characters, and one of the most memorable protagonists in Big Finish history. Next up - Four seasons. Four stories. Now close the door behind you, you're letting the cold in... Peter Davison is the Doctor in...Circular Time.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:break the budget and get Eric Roberts back. 
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CobiWann posted:Year of the Pig Year of the Pig is basically exactly what I want out of Big Finish. Not that it's their best (but it is very good) or that every story should be like it, but it does something that could only work on audio. The concept is too batshit to work on TV, and if you think about what Toby looks like for too long you'll go mad. Big Finish, IMO, spends way too much time playing too closely to the classic series, but when they cut loose, they cut loose.
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Rochallor posted:Year of the Pig is basically exactly what I want out of Big Finish. Not that it's their best (but it is very good) or that every story should be like it, but it does something that could only work on audio. The concept is too batshit to work on TV, and if you think about what Toby looks like for too long you'll go mad. Big Finish, IMO, spends way too much time playing too closely to the classic series, but when they cut loose, they cut loose. The liner notes make a joke about the pig alien from Aliens of London almost causing them to scrap the script, it looked so silly...
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Diabolik900 posted:Didn't read past here, but definitely buying this one. You won't regret it, it's an amazing story and Paul Brooke's performance is incredible.
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Fil5000 posted:Missy proposing horrible, overly elaborate schemes to solve every problem they encounter would be great. "She'd get dizzy if she tried to walk in a straight line." 
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Circular Time is one of my favorites. It also just comes at the right time in Big Finish's release schedule for a quiet (if a little sad and mournful) moment of reflection in Autumn and Winter, the last two stories. The other two stories flash a little quickly, but I love hearing Hugh Fraser's voice from his time as Hastings in the televised Poirot, and the second story is a fairly typical Five/Nyssa historical without some of the bloat that comes with the four-parters. I think the third part also sort of shapes Nyssa's character for the rest of the Big Finish stories, and shores up the sort of continuous thread of Big Finish Five having a sense of absolute terror about eventually regenerating and a sort of existential dread about the meaning of his choices.
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CobiWann posted:hell, I've even seen a grown man satisfy a camel.  Hush, not here. Tell me about it at the next convention.
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year of the pig wasn't bad but i was feeling kind of sick when i listened to it and i got so nauseous at all the food talk that i nearly blasted a puke. that's the sum of my feelings about year of the pig
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Bicyclops posted:Circular Time is one of my favorites. It also just comes at the right time in Big Finish's release schedule for a quiet (if a little sad and mournful) moment of reflection in Autumn and Winter, the last two stories. The other two stories flash a little quickly... Isn't that true of spring and summer though?
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