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Was thinking of replaying the game for the anniversary which I still might do, but I'll definitely follow the lp. What I absolutely adore about IX is that it's bursting with optional world building material that tremendously helps sell the world and the people that live in it. Wars that have taken place but aren't massive plot points that has to be brought up again and again and be referred to as "the war", characters that are doing their own thing in the world hours and hours before you actually meet them and how every single item can be examined in the menu for some silly trivia about Baku's eating habits.
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Yeah, Steiner is kinda great. I even like his dopey theme song. Say, there are a ton of people reminiscing about the best FF in this thread, but how many of you never played it and are experiencing it for the first time through this thread?
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Jul 8, 2015 05:10
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I've never played past the first hour.
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Jul 8, 2015 05:16
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You can change your way.
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Yeah, Steiner is kinda great. I even like his dopey theme song. I've never played it, though I did read a fair amount of TWD's LP. For some reason I found his writing style off-putting and never finished the LP, so I'm really glad Mega64 is doing another runthrough.
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Jul 8, 2015 05:18
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It would be difficult in my current situation. Also I always got chumped by the first boss after the world map because I'm bad at this?
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Jul 8, 2015 05:19
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Yeah, Steiner is kinda great. I even like his dopey theme song. I've never played it but always wanted to. I remember when it came out I was into FF2 and FF3 and wasn't into FF7 really so it REALLY piqued my interest, but I didn't have a ps1 so... That being said I'm incredibly pumped to follow this as it goes!
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Jul 8, 2015 05:43
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I'm pretty sure I remember there being at least one other Silk Shirt before Vivi becomes equip-able. I think you can steal one during the last Steiner fight
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Jul 8, 2015 06:57
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I couldn't help but hate Steiner. His antics in the early game weren't even close to endearing and they soured me on the guy. I threw him out of what would be my endgame party out of pure spite. FFIX was actually pretty up and down with me on characters. I can think of a few party members that I wanted nothing to do with. Maybe this LP will show me what I didn't grasp in my own playthrough though, that's certainly possible.
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Edward_Tohr posted:Welp, you know your chainmail hobby is getting out of hand when you feel the need to comment on it for a Final Fantasy game, but.... If you look closely, he's got chainmail with smaller rings beneath the big ones.
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SonicRulez posted:I couldn't help but hate Steiner. His antics in the early game weren't even close to endearing and they soured me on the guy. I threw him out of what would be my endgame party out of pure spite. FFIX was actually pretty up and down with me on characters. I can think of a few party members that I wanted nothing to do with. Maybe this LP will show me what I didn't grasp in my own playthrough though, that's certainly possible. I agree with this, but we have to wait to see Steiner's character a bit more before I delve into reasons why. The very first time I played that part (read as: back when I was an ignorant kid), I thought Queen Brahne was a monster (aesthetically), I thought Zorn and Thorn came off as more creepy than funny, and I wondered why all of Alexandria's soldiers are scantily-clad chicks with giant helmets and yet Steiner's the only male knight. Also, that was a nice detail on Blank; I'd never seen his artwork before this thread, so I didn't realize he was all stitched up like a doll.
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Yeah, Steiner is kinda great. I even like his dopey theme song. I've never played it, although I'm aware of some presumably major spoilers and some later characters (and the soundtrack but that's a given). It seems interesting, but hearing about how slow it is makes me reluctant to actually play it myself...
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Jul 8, 2015 09:01
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Like Clockwork posted:I've never played it, although I'm aware of some presumably major spoilers and some later characters (and the soundtrack but that's a given). It seems interesting, but hearing about how slow it is makes me reluctant to actually play it myself...
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Digital Jello posted:I agree with this, but we have to wait to see Steiner's character a bit more before I delve into reasons why. The original designs of his 3D render did actually give him visible eyes, but then they put a belt on him. Appreciating Steiner I think largely depends on how much you enjoyed Falstaff in Henry IV. There's a distinct influence there.
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Jul 8, 2015 09:21
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Steiner is sad because the princess didn't notice that he flourished his sword with perfect timing to start off the show. Even though that was somebody else's decision entirely, he still got the timing right. Didn't you see that, princess? Didn't it make you smile? Steiner, nobody is happy that you can do that, except for you. Deal with it.
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Jul 8, 2015 09:58
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I think my favorite thing in my favorite final fantasy is the music, though the Shakespeare influence might be a close one.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So, I love FFIX, your other LPs, and TWD's LP of this, and I'm going to follow this regardless, but I'm curious what you're planning to do to present a fresh take on the game. Mostly out of curiosity as I'll read it regardless. Honestly, the big difference will be presentation, as my commentary's going to be pretty straightforward for the most part in regards to being informative and mixing in half-assed jokes. This will pretty much be another "let the game speak for itself" like the Mother 3 LP was. Though that said, there's already looking to be some great bonus content other people are contributing, and I'm hoping to start up with some art updates soon to show off all the crazy characters and locations. And of course it's a new opportunity to talk about this game fifteen years after its release, which is always fun. I wouldn't expect a lot of fantastic indepth story analysis on the level of the FF7 or FF8 LPs, though I'll likely dabble in that when it makes sense because it's fun to do. Mainly I'm aiming to show off a beautiful game the best I can and having some fun along the way.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:The original designs of his 3D render did actually give him visible eyes, but then they put a belt on him.
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The attack animation is so long that it breaks the ATB system in this game. Often a character has to wait for the attack animation of the previous character before running his own. And the ATB bar of the previous character will start to fill up while the current attack animation is playing. So by the time the attack animation has ended, the ATB bar of the previous character will be so far ahead that it is impossible to catch up. In this sense, the ATB bars are synchronized by the attack animations and the turn order is fixed.
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mkwong98 posted:The attack animation is so long that it breaks the ATB system in this game. Often a character has to wait for the attack animation of the previous character before running his own. And the ATB bar of the previous character will start to fill up while the current attack animation is playing. So by the time the attack animation has ended, the ATB bar of the previous character will be so far ahead that it is impossible to catch up. In this sense, the ATB bars are synchronized by the attack animations and the turn order is fixed. I recall (very roughly) estimating at some point that each animation takes at least 3 seconds and a character's ATB bar fills in maybe a little over 10 seconds. Most of the time there are at least 5 characters on the screen. How many apples Square, how many apples?
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To everyone who thinks any character you've seen so far is the best: You're dead wrong. We haven't met E: He already passed it. 
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Jul 8, 2015 16:36
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Mega64 posted:I'd definitely be fine with it! Hell, my FFV thread evolved into a challenge megathread so I've got no qualms about other runs alongside mine. Still need to update that one soonish, actually. Still sorry about that. 
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Jul 8, 2015 16:39
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As great as Vamo Alla Flamenco is, Feel My Blade is one of my favourite tracks in the game.
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Sum Mors posted:To everyone who thinks any character you've seen so far is the best: You're dead wrong. We haven't met If it's the character I think you meant, no he didn't. You can only first meet said character when running around as Steiner in the castle, looking for the rest of the knights.
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   So now that we're back with Steiner, we're in control of the lug.   Steiner and his crew aren't really as well-respected as the other Alexandrian soldiers. Probably because Steiner's the only one who really cares about his job.   This is the other reward for doing well in the swordfighting minigame. Moonstones are limited quantity, so getting a free one this early on is nice. You get lesser rewards if you do worse, you only get the Moonstone for getting all 100 nobles. As for what it is and what it does, don't worry. Once I get through the introduction area I'll actually start talking about the gameplay.  In the meantime, we've got a princess to rescue!    Hey! I thought I told you to look for the princess! What are you doing here!? I told you nitwits to go search for the princess! To the left of the door is a piece of paper.  There are nine Knights of Pluto. Steiner's one, and we just talked with Blutzen and Kohel.  This is Mosh. Apparently if you're good at jump rope, he'll have a special letter. It's hard to be good at jump rope when you constantly trip and wear baggy pants like Vivi though.  Of course, Steiner doesn't know this is the princess. But that does sound suspicious, doesn't it?  This guy runs around enough that it's a pain to catch and talk to him.  Nor is he very helpful.  To the east is the kitchen.   This is the head chef of Alexandria. This creature is also a main character because why not.    Whatever, Captain. I'm so hungry...That's four. Yes, there's a reward for finding all eight.  On the lower levels you can access the libraries.  Doctor Tot is a character we will meet later because of the awkward way this NPC mentioned him. I wonder how many people remember Doctor Tot exists when thinking back to this game. You're trying to remember who Doctor Tot is right now, aren't you?   Right now? No way! Nitwit! You just joined us! Now, go find the princess, soldier! If you leave and re-enter...  That's five.  Eidolons are what this game calls its summons. More on that later.  As with this.  But if we fail to find the princess before the curtain falls, Her Majesty will be most displeased... And we will be the laughingstock of Beatrix and her retinue! Steiner really doesn't like Beatrix.  Good to know.  Care to have a seat, Captain? Now is not the time! By order of Her Majesty, we must go search for Princess Garnet! WHAT!?!?!? This calls for immediate action!!! Fair princess, be not afraid!!! Haagen is on the trail! That's six.  This is the tower where that one soldier said two Pluto Knights were. Only one here, though, and oddly doesn't have a name so he doesn't count. Might as well try the other tower.   Hmmm... Let me think about it. Go search for Princess Garnet! Yes, sir! At once, sir!And that's seven.   The final Pluto Knight is on the way to the top of this tower.  Oh! Captain Steiner, do you climb this tower for exercise, too? No! No! No! I'm searching for Princess Garnet! Is the princess at the top of this tower or not!? I want to reach the top, but at my age, I get so short of breath. Of course! All knights will obey!!! Then this guy will go over all the guys you found.  I'll summarize them here since all of them start with the same text up to "given orders to": * The double super-sleuths, Blutzen and Kohel. * Our most inspirational writer, Laudo. * The most famous artillerist in the realm, Dojebon. * The only man who can name all the girls in town, Weimar. * The knight with the knack for navigating the neighborhood, Haagen. * The winner of last year's cannonball race, Mullenkedheim. And this is Breireicht who knows all this stuff and spends his time running up stairs. This is the only time you'll get this information and it's important to know to succeed in a sidequest in Disc 3.   But we get a reward for now just for talking to all the knights. Not bad.  Anyway, to advance the story we must climb to the top.  No! I must persevere! The princess must be found!  It's Princess Garnet! Fun fact: Every step or stomp Steiner makes is accompanied by a metal clang. This guy would be abysmal at stealth. This is the cue for our next cutscene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgnJVtj0rnY     Garnet makes a blind leap to the shock of Zidane, but she knows what she's doing.  Steiner's in a blind panic at this point.   Gotta admit, this looks pretty fun for a planned escape. Though she's probably lucky she's not paste on the ground at this point.   Meanwhile, Steiner learns to fly.   ...but fails to stick the landing.     And so the Princess runs off, again...  ...and back again after she finds out it's a dead end.    This is Ruby. She's also a member of Tantalus.  Hold yer horses, there! You should at least say yer sorry! Please pardon me. I was in a hurry, you see...  And in comes Zidane.  This cowgirl's wilder than a buckin' bronco! Just let me talk to her, Ruby!  Luckily, the next room is also where we started the game.   (Wow. We really had to improvise. But hey, we got her!)  (Aww... So she figured it out, huh?) As you have no doubt suspected...the truth is that...I am actually...  I have a favor I wish to ask of you... Ahahaha. Poor cocky Zidane is thrown off-guard for a moment.   Aha... So that's what's going on... It doesn't take long for him to regain his composure, of course. Thank you. You have my gratitude.  Zidane's great because the game's not afraid to make him goofy. It's fun to watch him in action.  Don't worry, Princess. It's my friend Cinna! Oh, really? I am sorry. You startled me. Well, with a face like his, I'd be pretty shocked, too!   This way! Alright, we'll follow you!SILENCE    Note I've left out five or so screens of him running to various parts of the room saying "Princess?" over and over.  Sir! I'm sorry, sir! Hehehe. I thought this might happen... So I set up this escape hatch! Come on! Jump inside! I-I'll go first, sir! And so the least-successful jump-in-hole maneuver in modern fiction was executed.  Captain, sir! I'm stuck, sir! Grrrr! Blast it!!! Next time we will actually finish this section for real. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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If anybody was still in doubt about Steiner being great you've officially been proven wrong as of right now. Also it's nice to see another FF9 LP. It's easily one of the top three games main series for me.
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Mega64 posted:
Dojebon is indeed a fucker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpgMOv-Vkz
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[louder] I Remember Doctor Tot! I! Remember! Doctor! Tot! Come on you bastards, shout it! I! Remember! Doctor! Tot!
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FactsAreUseless posted:[louder] I Remember Doctor Tot! I! Remember! Doctor! Tot! Come on you bastards, shout it! I! Remember! Doctor! Tot! All you kids at home too! Say it! As loud as you can! I remember Doctor Tot! I remember Doctor Tot!
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Jul 8, 2015 18:47
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Also, FFIX has an amazing attention to detail. Many of these little bits of dialogue, these seemingly unimportant NPCs and tidbits of lore you can find in the prologue will all come into play later in the game. FFIX rewards those with long memories.
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*chanting* DOC-TOR TOT IS NOT FOR-GOT
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Doctor Tot kills me because the infamous Worst Doctor Ever Mengele, the concentration camp monster who experimented on people, had the nickname "Doktor Tod" (Doctor Death). Apparently, he's not the only person to have this wonderful moniker, another KZ pseudo-doctor also has that honor. Sorry for ruining everyone's fun! As consolation prize, there is absolutely no ridiculous jumping through hoops and/or over ropes to be had for the super challenge run 3000 in this segment.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Dojebon is indeed a fucker. An error occurred during validation. This video does not exist.
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ArchWizard posted:You mean 100 nobles, right? Correct! Fixed, thanks.
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A bit late and maybe obvious, but isn't the song that plays in stage fights, Feel My Blade, a heavy rearrangement of the Final Fantasy VII battle theme? I've beaten both games before, but I've only noticed the similarity now. 
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AweStriker posted:An error occurred during validation. This video does not exist. What? Like, really, what? I watched it after I uploaded it to make sure it didn't break. Then I went to check it in the video manager and it seems fine? I don't even know sometimes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpgMOv-VkzI I clicked that link to make it sure it worked and it does for now maybe? I have no idea.
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OFS, you blaggard. I had suppressed my memories of how it once took me two minutes to catch Dojebon. *collapses into fetal position under desk* (video works now, by the way)
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Dojebon is indeed a fucker. Ahh, there's no capital I at the end of the video ID.
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