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for the price you could get a dx100, a tx802 and still have money left over for a midiverb and beer
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Startyde posted:for the price you could get a dx100, a tx802 and still have money left over for a midiverb and beer this, forever $500 for a 4op fm in 2015... lol
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Jul 8, 2015 17:56
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meanwhile fm4 on the iPad is like seven bucks
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Jul 8, 2015 18:17
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lol if u get a dx7 and use anything except the presets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3rrjQtQe5A Now That's What I Call Synth Patches!
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Jul 8, 2015 18:27
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I like animoog but it's the only iOS app I've ever used that will drain your battery if you don't close it through the double tap screen
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Jul 8, 2015 21:00
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lol if you get a dx7 and its not a dx7iid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIn-n2ebENo
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Jul 9, 2015 06:23
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why bother with hardware synths at all, seriously
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Jul 9, 2015 14:56
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Jul 9, 2015 15:03
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get a midi controller with knobs on it
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Jul 9, 2015 15:05
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I have a big ensoniq synth with tons of classic sounds on it and I've barely touched in in a year vsts are so good
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Jul 9, 2015 15:06
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pyf vst synths I mess with tons of them but always find myself using razor, monark and sylenth for everything razor is my favourite I think
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Jul 9, 2015 15:07
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if you have to ask you'll never know 
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Jul 9, 2015 15:08
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I do get it from a collector's perspective, and a luxury perspective buying them to make music is dumb though
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Jul 9, 2015 15:14
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Amethyst posted:I do get it from a collector's perspective, and a luxury perspective some of my tracks would never've been madr if it weren't for the fact that they evolved out of me loving around with a synth, patching it weirdly, etc.
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Jul 9, 2015 15:16
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Amethyst posted:why bother with hardware synths at all, seriously they sound better, look cooler and are more fun to collect. a lot of it is also like the discussion of culture in the webcomic, accidental space spy. culture is better if it's difficult to understand and, hence, imitate. getting your head around, and getting the software set up (and usually the vintage computing equipment to run it on) to patch old hardware just gives you so much huger a synth peen than loading a copy of massive.
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Granbar posted:some of my tracks would never've been madr if it weren't for the fact that they evolved out of me loving around with a synth, patching it weirdly, etc. you can do that with soft synths. in fact you can do way more with soft synths
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Jul 9, 2015 15:20
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Sizone posted:they sound better, stopped reading here
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Jul 9, 2015 15:20
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actually you can know the secret— personal preference
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Jul 9, 2015 15:21
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accidental space spy is cool as hell but lol at actually taking it's lessons to heart
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i don't think one way or the other is inherently superior along every axis. personally i have found that i am far more creative when i have a physical synth in front of me. i have a really hard time getting anything done when i have infinite flexibility
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has this vid been posted here before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szWhzdqrS2g
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Mr. Glass posted:i don't think one way or the other is inherently superior along every axis. personally i have found that i am far more creative when i have a physical synth in front of me. i have a really hard time getting anything done when i have infinite flexibility that's fair enough
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Amethyst posted:you can do that with soft synths. in fact you can do way more with soft synths yeah, but VSTs stopped being interesting to mess around with for me like 5 years ago sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. altho if I have a concrete idea in my head before I go into the studio, I can get stuff down faster with a DAW and the two VSTs I use for everything (Analog + Operator, I'm 100% fluent with them so I get poo poo done fast with them). however, just messing around for fun is way more fun doing on synths. also, you really can't emulate the crusty analog sounds I get out of my korg mono/poly, or sequential multitrak with softsynths. different uses for everything. they're all tools in the end, and to me it's better to have more tools at your disposal than less.
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philosophically I could stick to a MBA runnign Abletonb Live and do mostly everything, however I am a Human in the end and like having fun + looking at cool stuff with my Eyes and interacting with them with my Hands.
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i'm seriously skeptical about the "warmth" of analogue synths compared to modern virtual analog stuff. people couldn't tell the difference between korg's ms20 vst that came out 11 years ago unless it was a direct a/b test. I understand everything else you're saying though, if you prefer the "feel" of standalone instruments I get that.
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Amethyst posted:i'm seriously skeptical about the "warmth" of analogue synths compared to modern virtual analog stuff. people couldn't tell the difference between korg's ms20 vst that came out 11 years ago unless it was a direct a/b test. it sounds different to VSTs if your poo poo is half broken like my synths are.  adds to the warmth obviously!!!!
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it would be cool to make a virtual analog synth with a knob that simulates the components getting old and malfunctioning
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Amethyst posted:it would be cool to make a virtual analog synth with a knob that simulates the components getting old and malfunctioning I know I've seen this on at least one VST. also a lot of VSTs have an "Analog" knob that makes stuff detune more etc.
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because you can't circuit bend an iPad or release the magic blue smoke while trying to circuit bend your iPad Progressive JPEG posted:blue smoke button just doesn't have the same warmth
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i prefer hardware so far because the bewildering amount of options in any daw results in me just not producing anything at all also its way easier to get sidetracked on computer
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Jul 9, 2015 16:34
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install one vst, unplug internet, run the standalone vst application there I just saved you $900
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why bother with VSTs when you can just write everything in Csound?
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this conversation is so old it could vote
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Startyde posted:this conversation is so old it could vote vst enthusiasts seem to hide in the shadows and let the hardware guys talk over them, in my experience. i'm trying to encourage vst chat
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Jul 9, 2015 16:47
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has anyone tried NI's Rounds? it's pretty fun. I like the weird sequencer concept
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Amethyst posted:i'm trying to encourage vst chat hmm no thanks
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Deacon of Delicious posted:hmm no thanks You are free to leave the synth thread
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Amethyst posted:You are free to leave the synth thread Deacon of Delicious posted:hmm no thanks
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simulated oscillator, or simulator
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