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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. Collecting unpaid electric bills.
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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. I figured it was just a mad scientist super science thing. It doesn't need a purpose, it just is!
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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. Conquering uppity rebel regions like Wutai
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Jul 8, 2015 15:26
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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. Having sex with aliens.
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Jul 8, 2015 15:26
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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. Enhancing one's military/defense/security beyond what is deemed necessary and fueled by little more than fear is a time honored tradition.
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Jul 8, 2015 15:28
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Xavier434 posted:Enhancing one's military/defense/security beyond what is deemed necessary and fueled by little more than fear is a time honored tradition. Also a good point
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sassassin posted:I still don't know what soldier was supposed to be for. It's a giant super soldier arms race/pissing contest against...? Shinra own the whole world. Shinra didn't own the whole world when it started. Soldier was a big part of their subjugation methods. They in particular distinguished themselves in the Wutai war. Wutai, if you recall were ancient magic Japanese ninjas who kicked everyone's rear end until NotAmerica used SOLDIERS and threatened to use the Junon Canon against them.
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Jul 8, 2015 15:38
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Even after Wutai fell in line they still need to subjugate the poors like Avalanche and Corel. e. apparently they aren't for protecting headquarters because you will maybe get a random encounter for one if you're lucky since so few of the floors are actually patrolled by anyone?
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Jul 8, 2015 15:46
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Personally I was always interested what the S.O.L.D.I.E.R. stands for, especially since the Polish magazines made a point to translate the acronym literally and that can't make sense. Were there non-English version with changed name? I think the Japanese version had S.O.L.D.I.E.R. as well? Presumably the first letter stands for "Shinra", but the rest? "Shinra Operational Lethal Dudes Investigating Enemies' Realms"? Szurumbur fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Jul 8, 2015 16:21
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sassassin posted:The world was still saved. Doesn't matter who from. Shinra provides the sickness, then the cure. Pretty tightly-run business.
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Szurumbur posted:Personally I was always interested what the S.O.L.D.I.E.R. stands for, especially since the Polish magazines made a point to translate the acronym literally and that can't make sense. Were there non-English version with changed name? I think the Japanese version had S.O.L.D.I.E.R. as well? Someone once told me it was Shinra Operations, Logistics, Defense, & Intelligence Expert Regiment but I'm pretty sure they were backronym-it but I always liked the sound of it. At the same time A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E is in the game so who the gently caress knows
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Jul 8, 2015 16:41
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Soldier isn't an acronym at all. In the Japanese game it is just the English word Soldier. They translated it as SOLDIER to keep that but differentiate it from the actual word Soldier.
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Jul 8, 2015 16:45
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I think the name in Japanese was just SOLDIER. Not an acronym, just a loanword from english. Like the Ninja militia in the congo.
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Jul 8, 2015 16:46
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ffvii is the result of FFX-2's shinra ancestors leaving Spira and settling on The Planet, where they used Farplane-based technology to create mako
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Excels posted:ffvii is the result of FFX-2's shinra ancestors leaving Spira and settling on The Planet, where they used Farplane-based technology to create mako No
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Jul 8, 2015 17:05
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197341-final-fantasy-vii/46013722 yes
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quote:Nojima
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if you want to go that way the processes that create materia in ff7 were put in place by a space traveling being killed by the ff4 crew
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Jul 8, 2015 17:29
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This is weird. I never thought of any of the Final Fantasy games being part of a time line other than those with direct sequels.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:42
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Final Fantasy 14 takes place after Final Fantasy 3 and 6 and also every other Final Fantasy game
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Jul 8, 2015 17:45
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if i recall, nomura stated Dissidia is canon to every FF game, it was sort of a Persona Q situation where they tripped and stumbled into a nexus world for a while then lost all their memories when it was over and returned to their own points in time
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Jul 8, 2015 17:53
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I could not give less of a poo poo about a hypothetical FF timeline.
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Excels posted:if i recall, nomura stated Dissidia is canon to every FF game, it was sort of a Persona Q situation where they tripped and stumbled into a nexus world for a while then lost all their memories when it was over and returned to their own points in time It's also a prequel to FF1 and the Warrior of Light is essentially FF1's Cid. I loving love all the idiotic ways they've tried to connect these wildly different games.
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There's crossed wires because of dumb poo poo like FF12&T and Dissidia and Gilgamesh but I optimistically believe that FFX-2 interview was leaning hard into a dumb fan fiction joke like when Kojima was baiting nerds that MGS and Snatcher shared a timeline.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:09
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When Ultimecia compressed time she absorbed all the final fantasies
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zedprime posted:There's crossed wires because of dumb poo poo like FF12&T and Dissidia and Gilgamesh but I optimistically believe that FFX-2 interview was leaning hard into a dumb fan fiction joke like when Kojima was baiting nerds that MGS and Snatcher shared a timeline. That Snatcher is part of a series with nanomachine senators and time paradoxes is amazing.
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In Training posted:I could not give less of a poo poo about a hypothetical FF timeline. yeah
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In Training posted:I could not give less of a poo poo about a hypothetical FF timeline.
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Help Im Alive posted:When Ultimecia compressed time she absorbed all the final fantasies it didn't help her much
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In Training posted:I could not give less of a poo poo about a hypothetical FF timeline.
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Timeline discussion: That alien blob trying to destroy the universe in The After Years is Azure_Horizon.
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Mega64 posted:Timeline discussion: That alien blob trying to destroy the universe in The After Years is Azure_Horizon.
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Mega64 posted:Timeline discussion: That alien blob trying to destroy the universe in The After Years is Azure_Horizon. But I didn't see a single mention of how Etro's Gate was obviously that thing behind Orphan in Final Fantasy XIII!
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Jul 8, 2015 18:49
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No you see if you read the Datalog
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I loved Dissidia a lot, but I thought it was best if I ignored any and all attempts it made at connecting the Final Fantasies. I treat any and all timeline theories the same way. Terrible idea that plagues Zelda to this day.
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SonicRulez posted:I loved Dissidia a lot, but I thought it was best if I ignored any and all attempts it made at connecting the Final Fantasies. I treat any and all timeline theories the same way. Terrible idea that plagues Zelda to this day. Wind Waker Ganondorf is the same Ganon from OoT
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Excels posted:Wind Waker Ganondorf is the same Ganon from OoT Childhood. Destroyed.
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Jul 8, 2015 19:13
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It's generally believed that Gilgamesh is always the same guy in most of the games because he travels through the void to other universes. Usually. FF IX Gilgamesh is debatable and XI Gilgamesh is almost definitely not the same guy. In a few games, Gilamesh even makes reference to Bartz.
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SonicRulez posted:I treat any and all timeline theories the same way. Terrible idea that plagues Zelda to this day. Agreed. All Final Fantasies share The Void and nothing else. Boom, done.
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Excels posted:Wind Waker Ganondorf is the same Ganon from OoT Just because I don't always like Zelda's timeline doesn't mean I don't know it. Gammatron 64 posted:It's generally believed that Gilgamesh is always the same guy in most of the games because he travels through the void to other universes. Usually. FF IX Gilgamesh is debatable and XI Gilgamesh is almost definitely not the same guy. I make an exception for Gilgamesh. He has to be the same guy between FFV and FFVIII at the very least.
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