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Was Richard II succeeding Edward III normal per the rules of succession
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Jul 8, 2015 20:38
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Nintendo Kid posted:which is the point, after all. google has analyzed your interests and suggests the following diversions to supplement them - putting a bucket over your head and screaming - sisyphus cosplay - digging to china with a fork
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Jul 8, 2015 20:38
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here's some controversial counterfactual clickbait: George Bush was bad
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Jul 8, 2015 20:39
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Disinterested posted:it must be said though that the medieval period saw a massive expansion in lawyers and there's also the question of the ministerial class people forget about Right, basically as the Kingdoms grew larger and economies grew stronger the middle-class bureaucracy exploded.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:39
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zoux posted:Was Richard II succeeding Edward III normal per the rules of succession Yes. Sons of the eldest Son would have the stronger claim.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:39
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Berke Negri posted:here's some controversial counterfactual clickbait: George Bush was bad drat good content, and hot!
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Jul 8, 2015 20:40
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Disinterested posted:they have children and armies and money I mean obv. you kill the families too. And their armies aren't going to fight for a dead family that can't pay them anymore. I guess idk lol. Popular Thug Drink posted:the ball of the burning men Poe based Hop Frog on that and it's a really good story if anyone hasn't read it. I had a book of his stories including this one, with the gory and awesome Rackham illustrations when I was a kid, which prob. explains a lot Sharkie fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Jul 8, 2015 20:40
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Brannock posted:good thing I never really cared about exactly how many hours of tv or whatever it is nice backpedal guy who doesn't know poo poo about gently caress. you can't even stick to a position. you were most certainly arguing that if they just watched a half hour less tv they wouldn't be fat, because you're an idiot. paranoid randroid posted:google has analyzed your interests and suggests the following diversions to supplement them - posting in d&d
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Jul 8, 2015 20:40
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i prefer the discussion to the debate because the discussion is occasionally interesting whereas the debate is always loving awful and pointless
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Jul 8, 2015 20:41
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hell, go so far to say George Bush not good
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Jul 8, 2015 20:41
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zoux posted:Was Richard II succeeding Edward III normal per the rules of succession yes - eldest sons, then their eldest sons. It still is that way except we include women now, so the current order is Charles -> William -> His Son -> His Daughter -> Harry BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Right, basically as the Kingdoms grew larger and economies grew stronger the middle-class bureaucracy exploded. well it's a feedback loop, they grow in part because of the frameworks that are imposed on them
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Jul 8, 2015 20:42
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Sharkie posted:I mean obv. you kill the families too. And their armies aren't going to fight for a dead family that can't pay them anymore. I guess idk lol. with regards to england like, who exactly are you killing all their families with because your military power comes from those same nobles the idea of a unified state that owes service to the king as a whole was a pretty modern idea in europe
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Jul 8, 2015 20:42
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Berke Negri posted:hell, go so far to say George Bush not good I was thinking about this last night. What things can you look back at during his presidency and say that they're legacy achievements?
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Jul 8, 2015 20:43
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Nintendo Kid posted:nice backpedal guy who doesn't know poo poo about gently caress. you can't even stick to a position. hrm, okay Brannock posted:I really don't buy the "high time cost" thing considering how much time people waste on television and internet. Brannock posted:Going from 4 hours of TV a day to 3.5 is a real burden. sounds exactly like what I've been saying here. you're just straight making poo poo up fishmech
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Jul 8, 2015 20:43
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paranoid randroid posted:i prefer the discussion to the debate because the discussion is occasionally interesting whereas the debate is always loving awful and pointless I agree and I apologize for inflicting this upon yall bye bye for now dadchat
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Jul 8, 2015 20:44
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Disinterested posted:yes - eldest sons, then their eldest sons. It still is that way except we include women now, so the current order is Charles -> William -> His Son -> His Daughter -> Harry I am really curious what name Charles is going to take. Disinterested posted:well it's a feedback loop, they grow in part because of the frameworks that are imposed on them Yeah.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:44
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Sharkie posted:I mean obv. you kill the families too. And their armies aren't going to fight for a dead family that can't pay them anymore. I guess idk lol. I'm not sure how easy you imagine it to be to kill thousands of wealthy, well protected and powerful people UberJew posted:the idea of a unified state that owes service to the king as a whole was a pretty modern idea in europe the idea of a 'state' is but the degree to which people saw themselves as loyal to a central structure of authority is v. pliable with location and the subject of hot debate.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:44
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Brannock posted:hrm, okay you just posted evidence of you being a colossal idiot who thinks the problem is people watch too much tv, because you are dumb.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:44
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I was thinking about this last night. What things can you look back at during his presidency and say that they're legacy achievements? I think there was some big section of pacific islands designated as a nature refuge during his term. that's all I can think of
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Jul 8, 2015 20:45
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Disinterested posted:the idea of a 'state' is but the degree to which people saw themselves as loyal to a central structure of authority is v. pliable with location and the subject of hot debate. yeah you're right and i'm dramatically oversimplifying but i'm pretty sure his thoughts are stemming from the idea of england as being a state as that is a common anachronism
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Jul 8, 2015 20:46
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UberJew posted:with regards to england like, who exactly are you killing all their families with because your military power comes from those same nobles Well I mean the idea of a standing army paid for by the King was A thing; but in general, yes. There were also nobles who were far richer than the king.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:46
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UberJew posted:with regards to england like, who exactly are you killing all their families with because your military power comes from those same nobles I don't explain to you why team rocket wouldn't want you as a member.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:46
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Well I mean the idea of a standing army paid for by the King was A thing wellllllllllll these are not very popular or universal
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Jul 8, 2015 20:47
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Sharkie posted:Look just let me have my nobility slaughter fantasies ok. well if that's the case then why doesn't your fantasy also involve the king getting got as well that's problematic, comrade
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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basically in medieval kingdoms everyone but the king is a bit like a libertarian who thinks taxes are theft and militaries are for tyrannising the people and stealing their poo poo except the difference is they were right
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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Disinterested posted:wellllllllllll Well no, but they were a thing. Though, he would have had to pay for the army somehow, and that mostly came from taxes from the nobles.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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who's the best king of all time from any country
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I was thinking about this last night. What things can you look back at during his presidency and say that they're legacy achievements? Destroying Iraq . Putting scary men in the sc. Wrecking the economy.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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UberJew posted:yeah you're right and i'm dramatically oversimplifying but i'm pretty sure his thoughts are stemming from the idea of england as being a state as that is a common anachronism 1. Not a 'he' and 2. Yeah I know better but 
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Jul 8, 2015 20:49
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Disinterested posted:basically in medieval kingdoms everyone but the king is a bit like a libertarian who thinks taxes are theft and militaries are for tyrannising the people and stealing their poo poo yes well they were also all tenants, so really they were just paying their rent.  zoux posted:who's the best king of all time from any country Elizabeth II
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Jul 8, 2015 20:50
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zoux posted:who's the best king of all time from any country can emperors, Dukes and other ruling heredity positions be included?
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Jul 8, 2015 20:51
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zoux posted:who's the best king of all time from any country MLK
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Jul 8, 2015 20:51
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zoux posted:who's the best king of all time from any country Kublai Khan
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Jul 8, 2015 20:51
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I was thinking about this last night. What things can you look back at during his presidency and say that they're legacy achievements? -Appointing assholes to the Supreme Court -Turning Iraq into an unstable and impossible-to-fix hellhole -Causing American Muslims to go politically from supporting almost entirely Republicans to almost entirely Democrats in the space of one decade Hey, you didn't say they had to be good legacy achievements
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Jul 8, 2015 20:51
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do emperors count?
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Jul 8, 2015 20:52
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Raskolnikov38 posted:can emperors, Dukes and other ruling heredity positions be included? Sure but no Khans
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Jul 8, 2015 20:52
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welcome to greendal ecommunity college
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Jul 8, 2015 20:52
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paranoid randroid posted:i prefer the discussion to the debate because the discussion is occasionally interesting whereas the debate is always loving awful and pointless i don't think that's entirely true, but good debaters aren't really fun to read (unless I know nothing about the subject which is somewhat often) and entertaining debaters are basically cefte and uh hm
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Jul 8, 2015 20:52
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Disinterested posted:Kublai Khan I SAID NO KHANS
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zoux posted:who's the best king of all time from any country emperor norton I
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