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Eonwe posted:it is a non-issue, actually Oh okay. I forgot people only make political decisions after rationally considering only the relevant facts.
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Eonwe posted:it is a non-issue, actually It's still an issue to his electability. Regardless of whether a college degree is a necessity to become president there are a non insignificant number of people that believe that it is.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:25
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Dahbadu posted:Even if he came from a middle class family, and therefore didn't really have a reason to drop out, the fact that he managed to become a governor (be it a horrible evil piece of poo poo governor) of a state is pretty impressive. If he was being paid gajillions by his bros Chuck and Dave while in college he probably would have finished school. If he wasn't being funded by them while in office it's debatable whether he'd even be there to begin with. Basically he's a man you have to literally shower with bribes to motivate.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:27
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Trump's new hotel in DC just lost the flagship restaurant, run by Spanish immigrant Jose Andres.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:30
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Trabisnikof posted:I mean, try and troll better at least? Only freepers think that was Obama's only job. Seems he's trolling just fine considering how many people leap to respond to his stupid poo poo instead of putting him on ignore.
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senseinobu posted:It's still an issue to his electability. Regardless of whether a college degree is a necessity to become president there are a non insignificant number of people that believe that it is. im pretty sure at the end of the day this is going to change the decision of exactly nobody
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Oh okay. I forgot people only make political decisions after rationally considering only the relevant facts. man you make bad posts
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FAUXTON posted:If he was being paid gajillions by his bros Chuck and Dave while in college he probably would have finished school. If he wasn't being funded by them while in office it's debatable whether he'd even be there to begin with. Basically he's a man you have to literally shower with bribes to motivate. When I say impressive, I mean scary impressive. I guess he saw he could get ahead without a degree, so he brutally did. He's like a honey badger of douchebags. Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Tempest_56 posted:Ah yes. A man who graduated from Columbia and Harvard, then taught law school for twelve years before going into politics is totally equivalent to a C+ student who dropped out of college to go right into office. Just to be clear, you said earlier that a long stint in the state legislature followed by being Governor don't qualify as "real jobs".
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Jul 8, 2015 20:48
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Just to be clear, you said earlier that a long stint in the state legislature followed by being Governor don't qualify as "real jobs". First time I've seen a republican argue that public sector jobs are real jobs. Have we entered the twilight zone?
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Jul 8, 2015 20:59
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Evil Fluffy posted:Seems he's trolling just fine considering how many people leap to respond to his stupid poo poo instead of putting him on ignore. Naturally I only really understand the concept of "trolling" in the most abstract, academic sense of the word - but if you think someone is doing that, making a post encouraging people to put them on ignore seems like something they'd want? I mean the concept of systematically hiding posts from people you don't agree with in a forum meant for debate seems a little strange to begin with.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:00
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In a separate interview with NBC News, Trump blasted the conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer, who called Trump a "rodeo clown." Krauthammer uses a wheelchair because of a spinal injury. "And then I get called by a guy that can't buy a pair of pants, I get called names? Give me a break," he said.
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  If for some reason you ever forget how ridiculous Donald Trump is, some folks made a Chrome extension that will insert one of his crazy quotes into any mention of his name. You can find the extension here.
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Leopold Stotch posted:
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Leopold Stotch posted:In a separate interview with NBC News, Trump blasted the conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer, who called Trump a "rodeo clown." This is incredible Actually, the full quote from Krauthammer is pretty great too quote:“Well, he’s tapping in, but he’s essentially — he’s done it in a way that the word offensive is too weak,” Krauthammer said. “It’s an insult. An entire immigrant group. He did not make a distinct between legal and illegal immigrants. That’s his entire campaign. All our problems are from Mexico, from China, from Saudi Arabia, and Japan. He will make them pay. But that elevates him to a guy actually with ideas. These are eruptions, barstool eruptions. And the pity is this. This is the strongest field of Republican candidates in 35 years. You could pick a dozen of them at random and have the strongest cabinet America’s had in our lifetime and instead all of our time is spent discussing this rodeo clown.”
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Leopold Stotch posted:In a separate interview with NBC News, Trump blasted the conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer, who called Trump a "rodeo clown." http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-steamrolls-nbc-reporter-takes-shots-at-krauthammer-and-jonah-goldberg/ quote:On Jonah Goldberg, who compared him to a “failed man”: “I’m worth a fortune. You know, it’s interesting. I went to the best school, got great marks, everything else. I went out, I made a fortune, a big fortune, a tremendous fortune… bigger than people even understand. […] Then I get called by a guy that can’t buy a pair of pants, I get called names?”
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nachos posted:This is the strongest field of Republican candidates in 35 years. You could pick a dozen of them at random and have the strongest cabinet America’s had in our lifetime and instead all of our time is spent discussing this rodeo clown. Holy moly this is delusional, or an incredibly ballsy lie.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Holy moly this is delusional, or an incredibly ballsy lie. This is the party that was claiming they won even after the votes were counted and it was clear Oblammo crushed the election.
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Local anti-vaxx and GMO groups are organizing here for Bernie. See, that's the problem with not controlling your message and people with an iron fist.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Holy moly this is delusional, or an incredibly ballsy lie.
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Fried Chicken posted:PPP has Donald "I beat China all the time" Trump now leading in North Carolina This extension is already paying dividends.
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http://conservativefrontline.com/la-gov-bobby-jindal-the-confederate-flag-is-a-symbol-of-my-heritage/quote:LA Gov. Bobby Jindal: "The Confederate flag is a symbol of my heritage” Ok then.
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538 is saying that Sanders could likely win Iowa and New Hampshire now, despite previously declaring he had no hope at all, but of course he will never win the minority vote for some reason so he has no hope nationally. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-could-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire-then-lose-everywhere-else/ I also like how they divide the Dem demographics into White Liberal/White Moderate/White Conservative/Minorities, because only white people have nuance I guess.
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De Nomolos posted:http://conservativefrontline.com/la-gov-bobby-jindal-the-confederate-flag-is-a-symbol-of-my-heritage/ Anil Dash can be annoying but this piece is pretty good: http://dashes.com/anil/2015/06/on-bobby-jindal.html
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:538 is saying that Sanders could likely win Iowa and New Hampshire now, despite previously declaring he had no hope at all, but of course he will never win the minority vote for some reason so he has no hope nationally. quote:Put another way, Iowa and New Hampshire aren’t representative of the more diverse electorates that Democrats will turn out elsewhere. It just so happens that the idiosyncrasies of the first two states match Sanders’s strengths and Clinton’s relative weaknesses.
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Eonwe posted:i still dont get why you guys dont talk about walker's lovely policies Yeah I know, D&D never talks about Walker's lovely policies.  Eonwe posted:if you care about the degree thing then lol, really Being able to finish a degree is a sign of whether a young person can finish a significant task on their own and hopefully learn many things. How do you not understand why people feel this is significant in a Presidential candidate?
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De Nomolos posted:http://conservativefrontline.com/la-gov-bobby-jindal-the-confederate-flag-is-a-symbol-of-my-heritage/ Challenge anyone who says the Confederate Flag is "about heritage", or their heritage, and/or it's the battle flag and not the actual flag of the CSA to do the Rebel Yell on the spot. If it's part of your goddamned heritage you better be able to howl like a demented werewolf on the spot.
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Donald Trump was able to finish a college degree, and he's Donald Trump. Just saying.
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Nessus posted:Well, if you read the article, the dude's main thesis is Hey before this argument takes off again, perhaps it's time to split this thread into democrat and republican primary threads?
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:538 is saying that Sanders could likely win Iowa and New Hampshire now, despite previously declaring he had no hope at all, but of course he will never win the minority vote for some reason so he has no hope nationally. What do you think Sanders could do to increase his performance among minority voters? quote:http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-could-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire-then-lose-everywhere-else/ I don't see this particular division. Where is that?
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Sir Tonk posted:Yeah I know, D&D never talks about Walker's lovely policies. Yeah these dumb loving kids who can't even graduate, come on! http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/magazine/who-gets-to-graduate.html?_r=0
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hey before this argument takes off again, perhaps it's time to split this thread into democrat and republican primary threads?
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Nintendo Kid posted:Donald Trump was able to finish a college degree, and he's Donald Trump. Just saying. Not just a college degree, a degree in economics from arguably the most prestigious business school in the world
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Jul 8, 2015 21:42
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nachos posted:This is incredible Denial's a hell of a drug.
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Sir Tonk posted:Yeah I know, D&D never talks about Walker's lovely policies. Lol if you are going to make your decision on who to vote for based on their degree or lack of a degree than almost anything else I don't know how to reply to you even, sorry about your bad opinions though
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Obdicut posted:What do you think Sanders could do to increase his performance among minority voters? - Take an aggressive line against institutional racism rather than falling into "it's not race, it's class!" - Not be from Vermont - Run against somebody who isn't a Clinton His policy record (excepting the occasional gun thing) is fine w/r/t the stuff that's important to minorities, but there are image issues to consider.
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Obdicut posted:What do you think Sanders could do to increase his performance among minority voters? Obviously more directly address minority issues and racism. I have no doubt he will when his priority isn't to secure two of the whitest states in the US. He does need to win Iowa and New Hampshire both to have any chance imo, and they're both 95%+ white. I think he's at least going to try to get parity with Clinton in these states in the polls before he begins a more national strategy. I just disagree with the notion that Hillary has somehow locked the minority vote down, when she had the white liberal vote two months ago and now seems to have mostly lost it. I also think Bernie's economic populism will have just as ready an audience among minorities as among white people. Obdicut posted:I don't see this particular division. Where is that? They only indirectly mention it in that article, but in another article about Bernie they had a graph where they straight up divide the democratic party like that. I'll look it up. edit: here we go:  from: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jim-webb-is-searching-for-a-bygone-democratic-party/ Sheng-Ji Yang fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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PupsOfWar posted:- Take an aggressive line against institutional racism rather than falling into "it's not race, it's class!" I do think he could stand to better articulate his views regarding this, because he does bring things back to class a lot which is a good point as well, but it couldn't hurt to be more explicit about fighting against racism I mean, he actually has the history to show he is an ally against racism considering his sitins to protest segregation in the 60s
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Sanders did an interview a couple of days ago which expounded a bit on his views on racism:quote: Clearly, police brutality and what goes on in African-American communities and other communities is a huge issue…. The question is: How do you have police departments in this country that are part of their communities, not oppressors in their communities? How do you have police officers who, when they commit acts of crime, are held accountable and are indicted? How do you have police officers receiving the proper training that they need? How do we demilitarize our police departments? All of these are important issues. The good news is that, as a country, we are paying far more attention to this issue than we previously did. If anyone thinks that the kind of police brutality that we’re seeing now is something new, they are sorely mistaken. The good news, in a sense, is that it’s now becoming public and we’re seeing it and talking about it.
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