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I wouldn't mind if everyone in this show became as flaming as OD
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dogsicle posted:any ideas why the VAPE Crowds just say YACK constantly? that's the sound that VAPERS make
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Jul 8, 2015 19:29
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Sakurazuka posted:Sugane should increase his interesting factor by kissing Jou. 
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Jul 8, 2015 19:40
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This show is dangerously naive when it comes to themes it tries to explore, but it's consistently entertaining. I hope it never ever tries to get serious, though, it becomes embarrassing (No, Hajime, "not having any secrets in the first place" is not the answer to all privacy issues).
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Jul 8, 2015 19:42
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He should kiss Hajime
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Jul 8, 2015 19:42
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doxxing doesn't matter if you're a superhero!
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Jul 8, 2015 19:47
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Beef Chief posted:He should kiss Hajime i approve of this, because sugane looks a little like i would if i was an anime teen
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Jul 8, 2015 20:01
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Hajime's not gonna kiss anyone but if she did it should be the new girl.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:03
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Hajime represents this somewhat endearing, but fundamentally misguided optimism about new possibilities of communication and self-expression. If the show didn't agree with her 100%, she would be a fascinating character. We'll see how Katze fits into all that, I guess.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:09
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The show does not agree with her 100%.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:12
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In Training posted:The show does not agree with her 100%.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:14
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In what way exactly does CROWDS show that her way of thinking is incorrect? Maybe I missed something.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:18
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The finale of season 1 and the plot of season 2 is that CROWDS are being used for crowd funded terrorism
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Jul 8, 2015 20:26
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The entire character of Katze existed solely to show that people are just easily manipulated towards being shitheads for no reason as they are towards being genuinely good people. The difference is the amount of good people outweighs the bad people, which is why Katze lost and is now in his eternal hell of positivity.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:28
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The first season doesn't agree with Hajime 100%, but it's pretty close. And to be honest, I'm fine with that. It's talking about something new and original and I like that it has a bold and provocative and unusual message.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:32
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It's also very critical of social media though, even when it's being used for good. In the finale, when everyone is given access to crowds to help the survival effort, their reaction to helping strangers isn't elated to be saving others; every single reaction is about scores and how high their points are. Jou and the PM have a small convo about this in S2 premiere when Jou says Japan still needs people like "us" (civil servants) who deeply care about the nation and not their digital ranking.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:39
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I guarantee they'll delve deeper into it too with the impending "cell phone election", that's a neat and frightening concept.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:40
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i feel like this season isn't the best proof that Hajime is challenged though. i mean s1 was its own thing and for a while we didn't know if they'd continue, much less focus the continuation on the harmful potential of CROWDS. i'm very optimistic about this season, it just seems weird to dismiss a valid complaint about s1 largely based on stuff from 1.5 episodes of an incomplete s2.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:50
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dogsicle posted:i feel like this season isn't the best proof that Hajime is challenged though. i mean season 1 was its own thing and for a while we didn't know if they'd continue, much less focus the continuation on the harmful potential of CROWDS. Yeah but the stinger at the end of S1 was clear in that public access Crowds had harmful effects
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Jul 8, 2015 20:52
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I don't really get why people are saying OD is flaming? Jou clearly lit a cigarette with his flamin' rear end manly spirit, and is thus the most flaming in the whole cast.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:59
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Conot posted:I don't really get why people are saying OD is flaming? OD is so fabulous that just being near his suit reduces you to your constituent atoms. It's very difficult to top that.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:13
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In Training posted:Yeah but the stinger at the end of S1 was clear in that public access Crowds had harmful effects a season-end cliffhanger would probably not compensate for ~12 episodes of pro-Hajime in the eyes of somebody who does take issue with her. s1 watchers may have been looking for more depth on that front and were disappointed, but this season is entirely about opposition so...problem solved?
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Jul 8, 2015 21:25
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I don't think that "you should embrace the future" and "the future can cause bad things" are contradictory viewpoints to hold, so I don't see the show ever really disagreeing with Hajime, and I don't think it's ever going to feel like she made a mistake. I also don't think this stops her from being interesting to watch!
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Jul 8, 2015 21:33
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When I first watched season one, I initially assumed that Hajime and Sugane would be foils and she'd teach him to be less dogmatic and inflexible while he'd teach her something about duty/responsibility or just how to communicate effectively with people. But it pretty quickly became clear that Sugane was just some random nerd and Hajime was a quasi-messianic figure who was right about everything all the time and her actual foil was Berg-Katze. Which is fine, and I enjoyed the show well enough overall, but I don't recall a single point in season one when it felt Hajime was wrong about a thing by the show's logic and I'll be really incredibly surprised if there's a point in season two which changes that.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:34
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The Devil Tesla posted:I don't think that "you should embrace the future" and "the future can cause bad things" are contradictory viewpoints to hold, so I don't see the show ever really disagreeing with Hajime, and I don't think it's ever going to feel like she made a mistake. I also don't think this stops her from being interesting to watch!
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Jul 8, 2015 21:38
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dogsicle posted:a season-end cliffhanger would probably not compensate for ~12 episodes of pro-Hajime in the eyes of somebody who does take issue with her. s1 watchers may have been looking for more depth on that front and were disappointed, but this season is entirely about opposition so...problem solved? Yeah, they've introduced an opposition... in the form of terrorist organization.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:45
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My problem with Hajime is that she just kinda does what she wants no matter how selfish it may seem, and is always correct to do so
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Jul 8, 2015 22:08
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Also she is never in a swimsuit
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Jul 8, 2015 22:10
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Hajime turned Berg into Fabo Gig by suffocating him so that was pretty cool
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Jul 8, 2015 22:41
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Hajime is basically teenage twitter buddha and Im perfectly ok with that. J.J is basically old school buddha and figured out his brand of enlightenment is just not attainable now days.
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Jul 8, 2015 22:44
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Hajime is a powerful teen
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Jul 8, 2015 22:46
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Namtab posted:Also she is never in a swimsuit
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Jul 8, 2015 22:55
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It's no good if it's not official
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Jul 8, 2015 23:00
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 if you look under the skirt, do you see a bulge?
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Jul 8, 2015 23:05
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You see whatever your heart tells you
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Jul 8, 2015 23:05
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i'm worried about rui's knees in that pose.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:07
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Davincie posted:
There's definitely going to be one somewhere.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:17
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Davincie posted:
Let's pool money and find out
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Jul 8, 2015 23:54
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Davincie posted:
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First season isn't nearly about Hajime as you are making it seem. She's got a strong presence in the first half but Rui and Katze takeover eventually. Also her milk revolt was foreshadowing the CROWDS chaos pretty hard. Sure she didn't seem to suffer any repercussions for it but I don't think the show was saying she was right. Also I didn't ever get the impression that she 'won' against Katze.
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