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Eonwe posted:I do think he could stand to better articulate his views regarding this, because he does bring things back to class a lot  code:
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Eonwe posted:Lol if you are going to make your decision on who to vote for based on their degree or lack of a degree than almost anything else I don't know how to reply to you even, sorry about your bad opinions though If that was what I said, perhaps, but your constant trolling isn't even as creative as TheDisreputableDog.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Obviously more directly address minority issues and racism. I have no doubt he will when his priority isn't to secure two of the whitest states in the US. He does need to win Iowa and New Hampshire both to have any chance imo, and they're both 95%+ white. I think he's at least going to try to get parity with Clinton in these states in the polls before he begins a more national strategy. If he does that, he'll be too late for a national strategy. and this: quote:And I do not separate the civil-rights issue from the fact that 50 percent of African-American young people are either unemployed or underemployed. Is a problem, because they are separate issues. The intertwine and reinforce, but the civil rights issues exist even for wealth and employed black people, and even in communities where black people have significant wealth they are at a disadvantage politically. It does reemphaize that he is an excellent human being. quote:
She hasn't mostly lost it, no. Don't confuse Iowa and NH with everywhere else--that's kind of the point of that article. quote:They only indirectly mention it in that article, but in another article about Bernie they had a graph where they straight up divide the democratic party like that. I'll look it up. Okay, it probably makes sense in context, but since it's from some other article it's hard to say.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I also like how they divide the Dem demographics into White Liberal/White Moderate/White Conservative/Minorities, because only white people have nuance I guess. that is demographically correct, yes
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nachos posted:"This is the strongest field of Republican candidates in 35 years. You could pick a dozen of them at random and have the strongest cabinet America’s had in our lifetime and instead all of our time is spent discussing this rodeo clown." code:
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Sir Tonk posted:If that was what I said, perhaps, but your constant trolling isn't even as creative as TheDisreputableDog. If you think I'm trolling then why bother responding to me? Get over yourself Brodeurs Nanny posted:Sanders did an interview a couple of days ago which expounded a bit on his views on racism: Eventually he'll get his views out there and I think people will respond. He has a strong history on advocating for the rights of minorities, so it'll happen. He probably could be a little bit more explicit in interviews though.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Obviously more directly address minority issues and racism. I have no doubt he will when his priority isn't to secure two of the whitest states in the US. He does need to win Iowa and New Hampshire both to have any chance imo, and they're both 95%+ white. I think he's at least going to try to get parity with Clinton in these states in the polls before he begins a more national strategy. minorities have way more to gain from a bernie sanders presidency than white people do so i don't see why he couldn't win them over
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quite the fucker posted:minorities have way more to gain from a bernie sanders presidency than white people do so i don't see why he couldn't win them over I'm pretty sure at this point almost any non-white person paying even the slightest attention to Republicans would still vote Democrat if the ticket was a stale ham sandwich and a wrench. Really the best campaigning in favor of a Democratic president isn't coming from the left.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:a stale ham sandwich How dare you use slurs to describe Ham Rover
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quite the fucker posted:minorities have way more to gain from a bernie sanders presidency than white people do so i don't see why he couldn't win them over They do not. They have approximately the same to gain.
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Nintendo Kid posted:They do not. they're poorer so they do
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quite the fucker posted:they're poorer so they do Bernie Sanders is incapable of doing anything more about that than Hillary Clinton, or even Martin O'Malley. He'd probably do better than Webb, but so would anyone else.
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Anyone have a video link of him actually saying this? http://thesaladbowl.kinja.com/indian-governor-confederate-flag-symbol-of-my-heritag-1716616616 http://nationalreport.net/la-gov-bobby-jindal-confederate-flag-symbol-heritage/ Cause that's insane. Wait.. is this actually his slogan? 
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quite the fucker posted:minorities have way more to gain from a bernie sanders presidency than white people do so i don't see why he couldn't win them over
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quite the fucker posted:they're poorer so they do And preexisting, systematic racial biases will ensure that poor whites will gain more than poor minorities.
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Simply winning Iowa/NH could do a lot to bolster Bernie's campaign nationally, at least doing away with the idea that he's a total no-chancer. Winning there would give a boost to his name recognition overnight, and that's probably his biggest problem.
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THE loving MOON posted:Simply winning Iowa/NH could do a lot to bolster Bernie's campaign nationally, at least doing away with the idea that he's a total no-chancer. Winning there would give a boost to his name recognition overnight, and that's probably his biggest problem. His biggest problem is that he's Actually A Socialist and a whole bunch of Americans really do hate that.
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AceRimmer posted:Let's do it! Rick Perry would be a great Vice President.
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Nietzschean posted:Is there any particular reason why Newt is not running? I want a moon base. The Definer of Civilization's Rules and Leader (possibly) of the Civilizing forces is still $4m in debt from his 2012 campaign. Some of the debt is owed to companies owned by Herman Cain.
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AceRimmer posted:Let's do it! Does that mean that POTUS is Trump then? Nessus posted:How does Sanders get a compliant legislature, or is the hope now that Sanders really will throw out the law and rule by fiat? He rolls out a guillotine and starts lopping off Republican heads 
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Joementum posted:Rick Perry would be a great Vice President. He's been a governor, and he could be a vice president, but is there any other political office he could hold?
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Nintendo Kid posted:His biggest problem is that he's Actually A Socialist and a whole bunch of Americans really do hate that. Yeah but how many of those people are going to even consider Hillary in the first place? Pretty sure most of that crowd is just straight up R anyway.
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Nintendo Kid posted:His biggest problem is that he's Actually A Socialist and a whole bunch of Americans really do hate that. I'm not so sure that would sink him in the general. Years of shrieking about 'socialism' have kind of made the word lose it's meaning 
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Nessus posted:How does Sanders get a compliant legislature, or is the hope now that Sanders really will throw out the law and rule by fiat? i don't know maybe dems will win seats
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quite the fucker posted:i don't know maybe dems will win seats Better not actually spend effort to campaign for those though.
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AceRimmer posted:Let's do it! The best part about this is what's left unsaid. 
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Nintendo Kid posted:His biggest problem is that he's Actually A Socialist and a whole bunch of Americans really do hate that. No. He's not a socialist, he's a democratic socialist, which is line with what the majority of Americans actually want. They just don't know it. If you asked the average American whether they think all the power and wealth in America should be centralized to the billionaires/corporations, or whether people deserve a voice and to have politicians working for the good of the people, I would reckon a huge majority would pick the former. I think Sanders has been working from the outset at telling Americans, yes I'm a democratic socialist, and most of you are too because you want the concentration of income and power to billionaires who rig our politics to stop.
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:No. He's not a socialist, he's a democratic socialist, which is line with what the majority of Americans actually want. They just don't know it. If you asked the average American whether they think all the power and wealth in America should be centralized to the billionaires/corporations, or whether people deserve a voice and to have politicians working for the good of the people, I would reckon a huge majority would pick the former. Freudian slip?
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:No. He's not a socialist, he's a democratic socialist, which is line with what the majority of Americans actually want. They just don't know it. If you asked the average American whether they think all the power and wealth in America should be centralized to the billionaires/corporations, or whether people deserve a voice and to have politicians working for the good of the people, I would reckon a huge majority would pick the former. And is he going steady with Elizabeth Warren??
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yeah but how many of those people are going to even consider Hillary in the first place? Pretty sure most of that crowd is just straight up R anyway. Tons of democrats are hardcore neoliberals. Brodeurs Nanny posted:No. He's not a socialist, he's a democratic socialist, which is line with what the majority of Americans actually want. They just don't know it. Since they don't know it, they hate it. He would need more time campaigning then he has left to live to be able to win over most democrats (let alone non-democrats).
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THE loving MOON posted:I'm not so sure that would sink him in the general. Years of shrieking about 'socialism' have kind of made the word lose it's meaning If an Actual Socialist ran I question how stunningly effective calling them that would be at this point, yeah. The GOP are like The Boy Who Cried Socialist.
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:No. He's not a socialist, he's a democratic socialist, which is line with what the majority of Americans actually want. They just don't know it. If you asked the average American whether they think all the power and wealth in America should be centralized to the billionaires or corporations, or whether people deserve a voice and to have politicians working for the good of the people, I would reckon a huge majority would pick the former. You're deeply underestimating just how poisoned the word socialist is, even twenty-plus years on since the end of the Cold War. I'm a Vermonter who's been paying at least passing attention to, and voting for, Bernie for my entire adult life and I'm willing to admit the reality that even given the disenchantment many other Americans are feeling with the capitalist status quo, an awful lot of them (and not just the conservatives) still unthinkingly react negatively to "socialism" and anything related to it. That Bernie is, at best, more in line with your average European social democrat doesn't much matter when so many people still shut down when they hear the word out loud. Doesn't matter how much he explains what he means or how much what he says is actually in line with what people want, given that.
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Thump! posted:Does that mean that POTUS is Trump then? 
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