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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

It's amazing watching the right-wing hivemind go straight for Bill. Like clockwork.

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Mt. ORourke
Dec 10, 2006

We find no vestige of a beginning,
no prospect of an end.

Shoulda been WMD-40

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

I've been lurking this thread for a good long while and I still don't have a loving clue what DBD is half the time. I read the wiki page and it mentioned something about humor but I have never seen a joke in that comic that wasn't some kind of massive headscratcher. The art is hideous, the dude can't even draw sexy titties well and I can't ever tell what order the word balloons are meant to be read in without some serious thought. How is that comic so bad? What is wrong with Muir?

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Robotnik Nudes posted:

I've been lurking this thread for a good long while and I still don't have a loving clue what DBD is half the time. I read the wiki page and it mentioned something about humor but I have never seen a joke in that comic that wasn't some kind of massive headscratcher. The art is hideous, the dude can't even draw sexy titties well and I can't ever tell what order the word balloons are meant to be read in without some serious thought. How is that comic so bad? What is wrong with Muir?

He went off the deep end when Obama was elected in '08 and has been sinking ever since.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Robotnik Nudes posted:

I've been lurking this thread for a good long while and I still don't have a loving clue what DBD is half the time. I read the wiki page and it mentioned something about humor but I have never seen a joke in that comic that wasn't some kind of massive headscratcher. The art is hideous, the dude can't even draw sexy titties well and I can't ever tell what order the word balloons are meant to be read in without some serious thought. How is that comic so bad? What is wrong with Muir?

He hasn't seen another human being in years.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
If anyone wants a Trump Car avatar here ya' go:


I couldn't get the 'Trump' on the hood to look good and I got tired of working on the tire but meh.

World Famous W fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jul 9, 2015

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Shugojin posted:

He went off the deep end when Obama was elected in '08 and has been sinking ever since.

So did it used to be coherent and have things recognizable as jokes? I have a hard time imagining that.

Also haven't looked at it much for a while. Links to this fuckbarn storyline?

prinnylaharl
Feb 10, 2013

Robotnik Nudes posted:

What is wrong with Muir?

A black man was elected president.


edit ;

Robotnik Nudes posted:

So did it used to be coherent and have things recognizable as jokes? I have a hard time imagining that.

It was more coherent before and was actually drawn rather than whatever porn he was looking at being put through photoshop, and while there were never any I'd consider funny there were quite a few easily recognizable jokes before it fully transitioned into :biotruths: the web comic. I mean, it was still bad but it was just leagues ahead of where DbD is now.

prinnylaharl fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jul 9, 2015

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

prinnylaharl posted:

A black man was elected president.

I get that, but a lot of cartoonmans feel the same but I can still interpret their comics without having to sit around trying to forget everything I know about how to read sequential art.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Robotnik Nudes posted:

So did it used to be coherent and have things recognizable as jokes? I have a hard time imagining that.

Also haven't looked at it much for a while. Links to this fuckbarn storyline?

I don't have those, but yeah once upon a time it was not a wordsalady mess of vectorized titties. Hell, once upon a time it was actually in newspapers.

e: But seriously, Muir is just a sad, sad man who lives in a dilapidated shack and like Dees it seems like he would really do well with some medication.

Well actually it's definite with Dees, at least Muir doesn't think Zionists are breaking into his house and rearranging his shoes.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Greece's unemployment rate is the highest in Europe, so finding a job has become really difficult. This impoverished Greek, who has begun to suffer from kwashiorkor, is angry at the patronizing "advice" that is given to him by foreign assholes. A good cartoon.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Rorus Raz posted:

It's amazing watching the right-wing hivemind go straight for Bill. Like clockwork.

They're my favorite because it's like they're just saying "hey guys in case you forgot we have terrible opinions."

Yes, I'm absolutely certain that covering for a literal child rapist or using date rape drugs to rape women are exactly as bad as a consensual extramarital blowjob. Yyyyup. Exact same level.

prinnylaharl
Feb 10, 2013

Robotnik Nudes posted:

I get that, but a lot of cartoonmans feel the same but I can still interpret their comics without having to sit around trying to forget everything I know about how to read sequential art.

I was in a mental health clinic recently and there were a decent bit of people there because they had a break down after the supreme court decision to finally legalize SSM. Now imagine if you were as racist as Muir and a black man became president. He's not a very smart man and I assume he has even less education than me which is next to nothing to begin with, combine all of these factors and you get the current situation with DbD.

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Shugojin posted:

I don't have those, but yeah once upon a time it was not a wordsalady mess of vectorized titties. Hell, once upon a time it was actually in newspapers.

e: But seriously, Muir is just a sad, sad man who lives in a dilapidated shack and like Dees it seems like he would really do well with some medication.

Well actually it's definite with Dees, at least Muir doesn't think Zionists are breaking into his house and rearranging his shoes.

Dees is a thousand times more coherent, in his weird Alex Jones on acid way. At least I know what he's trying to communicate.l

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I'm not kidding about the thinking Jews are breaking into his house and rearranging his shoes thing. He actually posted about that on his website. Dees really has serious, serious problems with paranoia.

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Shugojin posted:

I'm not kidding about the thinking Jews are breaking into his house thing and rearranging his shoes thing. He actually posted about that. Dees really has serious, serious problems with paranoia.

Oh yeah Dees is a kookoo for cocoa puffs no doubt, probably way crazier than Muir (or at least more flamboyantly crazy) but at least he can make a cartoon that lets the reader be like "Ah yes this man is insane and I can understand the nature of his insane beliefs."

Sometimes I wonder if DBD is actually manga style and try to read the panels right to left. it doesn't help but it doesn't make things any worse.

Not My Leg
Nov 6, 2002

AYN RAND AKBAR!

Robotnik Nudes posted:

So did it used to be coherent and have things recognizable as jokes? I have a hard time imagining that.

Also haven't looked at it much for a while. Links to this fuckbarn storyline?

Here's one of the first cartoons on his site. It has an actual joke, and better art. Not good, but better and kind of stylish.



Of course, most of the early strips are, "Democrats are the real racists" -a black man -a white man. Still more comprehensible than current DbD.



E:

Robotnik Nudes posted:

Oh yeah Dees is a kookoo for cocoa puffs no doubt, probably way crazier than Muir (or at least more flamboyantly crazy) but at least he can make a cartoon that lets the reader be like "Ah yes this man is insane and I can understand the nature of his insane beliefs."

Sometimes I wonder if DBD is actually manga style and try to read the panels right to left. it doesn't help but it doesn't make things any worse.

Dees is an actual artist. He used to work for Sesame Street Magazine and illustrated a bunch of Sesame Street books. He is also legitimately mentally ill. Muir is just a hack and an idiot.

Not My Leg fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 9, 2015

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Not My Leg posted:

Here's one of the first cartoons on his site. It has an actual joke, and better art. Not good, but better and kind of stylish.



Of course, most of the early strips are, "Democrats are the real racists" -a black man -a white man. Still more comprehensible than current DbD.



the 2nd one has a joke. i can see the joke. GG Muir. I don't quite get the first one though.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Shugojin posted:

I'm not kidding about the thinking Jews are breaking into his house and rearranging his shoes thing. He actually posted about that on his website. Dees really has serious, serious problems with paranoia.

Dees actually understands how to communicate to the viewer well and also understands logical arguments. He actually makes his points very clearly and you can tell how he arrived at him.

The issue is that his information is...uh...tainted. By the crazy.

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

Robotnik Nudes posted:

I don't quite get the first one though.
People can't do basic math anymore thanks to cell phones/calculators?

Not My Leg
Nov 6, 2002

AYN RAND AKBAR!

Robotnik Nudes posted:

the 2nd one has a joke. i can see the joke. GG Muir. I don't quite get the first one though.

It's just a pun. Black mouthpiece is counting on his fingers to figure out their ages. They refer to this as "digital technology", a play on fingers being "digits."

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003


"It's a tragedy that an icon of oppression and terrorism is no longer being flown by the state, but the real tragedy is that people are still being mean to the white supremacist who murdered people. Some relatives of his victims forgave him, shouldn't the state forgive him too? Hasn't he suffered enough? When you think about it, isn't Dylann Roof the real victim here?"

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Robotnik Nudes posted:

the 2nd one has a joke. i can see the joke. GG Muir. I don't quite get the first one though.

I think it's a pun. He's counting on his fingers, aka "digits".

Macksy
Oct 20, 2008
He's counting with his fingers.

Fingers are sometimes called "digits."

DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY LOLOLOLOLOOLOL

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Macksy posted:

He's counting with his fingers.

Fingers are sometimes called "digits."

DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY LOLOLOLOLOOLOL

He sure has a lot of fingers if he's counting to the upper 30s. maybe he's doing it in base 2? Counting in base 2 on fingers is p. cool.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Abyssal Squid posted:

"It's a tragedy that an icon of oppression and terrorism is no longer being flown by the state, but the real tragedy is that people are still being mean to the white supremacist who murdered people. Some relatives of his victims forgave him, shouldn't the state forgive him too? Hasn't he suffered enough? When you think about it, isn't Dylann Roof the real victim here?"

I actually think you are being to mean here.
I believe all he is saying that their forgiveness is really admirable. They are incredibly good people for keeping their christian values after this tragedy. And it's a shame that this strong message of peace was largely ignored.
Instead everyone started discussing about a flag of a theoretical country.

Maybe I am AGCing this, but that's genuinely what I got from it.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jul 10, 2015

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

How can a man view so much porn and never learn what a naked woman actually looks like?

Not My Leg
Nov 6, 2002

AYN RAND AKBAR!
Great, now I'm reading early DbD. Here's another joke Muir heard from someone.


He still botches the delivery though.

E: One more, just to show how the cartoon has changed.


Today, the last panel would be topless Waifu and Zed laying an incomprehensible burn on Jan for rebuffing Black Zed's advances.

Not My Leg fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jul 10, 2015

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

Does Muir have a day job or does his whole livelihood come form donations made by hosed up weirdos who just can't jerk off hard enough to his poorly traced reactionary pseudo-smut? Because holy poo poo, gently caress Muir but if he's seriously making his whole income just milking Freepy deviants that's amazing and I feel like he should win some kind of medal.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Abyssal Squid posted:

"It's a tragedy that an icon of oppression and terrorism is no longer being flown by the state, but the real tragedy is that people are still being mean to the white supremacist who murdered people. Some relatives of his victims forgave him, shouldn't the state forgive him too? Hasn't he suffered enough? When you think about it, isn't Dylann Roof the real victim here?"

I think he wants the forgiveness extended to the Confederate flag as well?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Robotnik Nudes posted:

Does Muir have a day job or does his whole livelihood come form donations made by hosed up weirdos who just can't jerk off hard enough to his poorly traced reactionary pseudo-smut? Because holy poo poo, gently caress Muir but if he's seriously making his whole income just milking Freepy deviants that's amazing and I feel like he should win some kind of medal.

DbD is literally his job. He also refuses donations past the point where he'd lose the EITC because of course he does.

Not My Leg
Nov 6, 2002

AYN RAND AKBAR!

ToxicSlurpee posted:

DbD is literally his job. He also refuses donations past the point where he'd lose the EITC because of course he does.

I know someone hypothesized this was the case years ago, and it became accepted wisdom, but has it ever been confirmed. He advertises on the site (well, until Google pulled its ads because of LIBERALS), so it seems like he has some amount of income above what the donation drive gives him.

E: I mean the part about stopping donations because of EITC or something similar. I believe it is confirmed that DbD is his only source of income.

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

In the second week of July?

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

So basically Muir lives the American Dream of doing the job he wants, creating what he wants to create and getting paid for his substandard product, and he uses that to talk poo poo about the country that allows him to make a living off badly drawn boobs.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


GhostofJohnMuir posted:

In the second week of July?

Eh, some places start in mid August, so it's not totally unreasonable to start seeing the sales in mid July.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS



Hillary's exposed lies reveal her to be further and further right-wing. A Good Cartoon.

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

In the second week of July?

I work at target, we have been putting ours up all week

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Not My Leg posted:

I know someone hypothesized this was the case years ago, and it became accepted wisdom, but has it ever been confirmed. He advertises on the site (well, until Google pulled its ads because of LIBERALS), so it seems like he has some amount of income above what the donation drive gives him.

E: I mean the part about stopping donations because of EITC or something similar. I believe it is confirmed that DbD is his only source of income.
I think he has said something similar to "I don't want more than X/year" while not being able to fix his roof. I wouldn't say that it is EITC or he just doesn't understand taxes but it is likely something in that area. It seems unlikely he takes in only what he needs because of his kind heart.

The media he consumes probably has something to do with it too. I remember a while ago there was a thing where the conservative line was Obama is going to raise your taxes. Some old lady called up Glenn Beck and said that her tax refund was bigger now and he told her to send the money back instead of spending it on her health because reasons.

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Mt. ORourke posted:

Shoulda been WMD-40

No, that would remind people of the last time the U.S. got hysterical over a country starting with "Ira" getting nukes and it turning out to be false. Doubt is the last thing the "Any Day Now" crowd want in their audience.

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