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Young Pageviews posted:Sydal generally seems extremely cool. I really loved his podcast with Colt Cabana about his ayahuasca journey. Oh yeah, that was a decent interview. Also, Matt Sydal can now slow time with his mind.
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Sydal's a giant doofy hippie but I appreciate his earnestness and he's been killing it on the indies since he got released. On the subject of people no longer with WWE still keeping their twitter handles the same, Bill Carr is still @WWEDUTCH and he never even made it out of developmental.
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Yes yes Jim Ross is an old racist, I suggest we organize a twitter mob to bombard the 63 year old gently caress into going away.
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Jul 10, 2015 07:16
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Wait, was JR just pushed into (kinda) pulling a compliment from a black person because someone went WHAT ABOUT BEING PROUD OF BEING WHITE, knowing other idiots would jump on the chance to whine about racism?
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Jul 10, 2015 07:27
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literally no one ever says "a credit to their race" without the word human if they mean human race. There aren't any loving alien races yet.
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Jul 10, 2015 07:31
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Mob posted:literally no one ever says "a credit to their race" without the word human if they mean human race. There aren't any loving alien races yet. Mob: Merely a furry, or full on Reptilian colluder? You decide.
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Jul 10, 2015 07:34
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The_Rob posted:God who gives a poo poo. Not to get all political up in here, but I do. Not all racism is "I hate the niggers and the kikes, and outrightly state they are subhuman scum!!!", some is a little more subtle. Now JR is an old man, but saying someone is a credit to their race is like saying someone is "one of the good ones". Implying everyone else of that race is somehow bad. He pulled up on it, and I would be surprised if he meant it in any malicious way, but its the little insidious racisms like that that people need to be called out on, so they can realize that they are being unwittingly racist, and change their behaviour.
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The_Rob posted:God who gives a poo poo. https://vine.co/v/ei5DvP3DHpv
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Onmi posted:Mob: Merely a furry, or full on Reptilian colluder? You decide. #AskQuestions
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BrigadierSensible posted:Not to get all political up in here, but I do. I hardly think that JR is the one controlling systematic racism in the U.S. He is an old school southern wrestling commentator. All things considered he is fine.
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Jul 10, 2015 08:19
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All going "Wow, you're saying black people should be proud of possibly the most accomplished black woman wrestler of all time? loving RACIST YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!" does is make your cause look like whiny babies.
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Jul 10, 2015 08:27
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Please be nice to old man JR, I saw him on TV and as such the good standing of his character is very important to me. Thanks
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Jul 10, 2015 08:33
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Basic Chunnel posted:Please be nice to old man JR, I saw him on TV and as such the good standing of his character is very important to me. Thanks Please be mean to old man JR, I saw him on the TV and as such punishment for a comment he made in the past is important to me. Thanks.
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Great White Hope posted:All going "Wow, you're saying black people should be proud of the possibly the most accomplished black woman wrestler of all time? loving RACIST YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!" does is make your cause look like whiny babies. Good, unbiased take here from "Great White Hope." If you can't recognize "a credit to her race" as some backhanded Jim Crow-era bullshit, you either have poor critical reading skills or the sort of complete unfamiliarity with this country's racial history that ought to preclude you from speaking about it. Or you're trolling, I guess. Every conversation in this thread, basically: Poster 1: This person said something racist/homophobic/sexist. I think that's unfortunate. Poster 2: Woah, woah, woah. Slow down, PC Police! Actually, this bigoted statement is good because sometimes other people commit worse acts of bigotry.
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Young Pageviews posted:Good, unbiased take here from "Great White Hope." People overreact because there are a lot of people in this country that honestly believe no one should be allowed to say things that they don't agree with anymore. Having your feelings hurt by words isn't an "attack" it's just something that happens to every human being. I'm sure JR says lots of things that are a lot worse than that, he's old. When he was growing up lots of things that we'd consider horrible now were pretty normal. I'd rather save my outrage for people whose actions are actually horrible, not just their words. Maybe I missed all the JR stories about him being a bigoted piece of poo poo who held down black people, but I think that was actually every other bigwig in wrestling history. So, I'd prefer we all just get mad at Vince McMahon for being a useless piece of poo poo instead. Well, also it's possible that JR did that too, but really gently caress Vince McMahon. Especially as in this case it seems pretty clear JR was attempting to praise someone and just did so in a clunky and dumb way. What an outrage. It's not like he threw around a bunch of n-bombs.
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JR's beautiful southern racist heritage will be respected a lot more when he reaches the age that he becomes afraid of phones and computers.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Not to get all political up in here, but I do. Young Pageviews posted:Good, unbiased take here from "Great White Hope." Finally some people in this thread that get it. Racism has deep systematic roots and only opposing the people who are burning crosses will just perpetuate the problem.
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After reading the last few posts discussing JR and his choice of wording as well as any possible racist tendencies, I'd just like to say Kurt Angle/Chris Benoit from Royal Rumble 2003 was a really great match and I think people should watch it.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:People overreact because there are a lot of people in this country that honestly believe no one should be allowed to say things that they don't agree with anymore. Having your feelings hurt by words isn't an "attack" it's just something that happens to every human being. If people point out Dixie Carter is bad at e-mail, the backlash shouldn't be "JESUS CHRIST YOU DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE COMPUTERS ANYMORE YOU COMPUTER POLICE. NEXT YOU'LL WANT TO BAN ALL COMPUTERS" If people blame Ryback for injuring people the backlash shouldn't be "OH MY GOD I GUESS YOU WANT TO BAN WRESTLING IS THAT IT? DO YOU NEED SOME SORT OF FEELINGS POLICE TO MAKE SURE NO ONE CAN GET HURT?" But when you suggest that maybe a wrestler or podcaster should choose their words more carefully, it is essentially an attack on free speech.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:People overreact because there are a lot of people in this country that honestly believe no one should be allowed to say things that they don't agree with anymore. Having your feelings hurt by words isn't an "attack" it's just something that happens to every human being. I get that the way we express collective outrage through Twitter and the 24-hour news cycle can sometimes have a chilling effect on free speech by making it too risky to talk about controversial topics, but here's the thing: Go back through this thread and tell me where anyone expresses genuine outrage at JR or suggests that he should be punished in any way. In fact, JR's tweet was first posted here without comment, and the first response comes from someone complaining about the Twitter mob that never came (talk about being over-sensitive!). Every time someone here even implies that they thought a wrestling personality did something bigoted, The Reddit Brigade shows up to plant their flags in the ground for free speech and derail the conversation before it even begins. This defensiveness almost makes it look like these folks aren't withholding their outrage for the next time someone throws a bunch of n-bombs so much as they are saving it for the next time someone suggests people shouldn't be able to say something lovely without any consequences. TL;DR I doubt anyone here thinks JR should be punished, but in an ideal world, it would be nice if someone with that large a platform — even someone old and white and southern — were able to reconsider before making a comment that reinforces white supremacy.
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Jul 10, 2015 14:09
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The is the same week where JR said that he only managed to get Gail Kim hired because he told Vince there's Asian porn, right?
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Gonzo McFee posted:The is the same week where JR said that he only managed to get Gail Kim hired because he told Vince there's Asian porn, right? I really wanna know how that conversation went, exactly. Like, surely it couldn't have just been "You know there's Asians that do porn?", it had to have been something more specific than that.
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Shima Honnou posted:I really wanna know how that conversation went, exactly. Like, surely it couldn't have just been "You know there's Asians that do porn?", it had to have been something more specific than that. It's on JR's podcast so have at it. From what's been said Vince's reaction was "People masturbate to the darnedest things" levels of bemusement.
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projecthalaxy posted:Dealing with Vince, and trying to tell him things, must be the most confusing and irritating thing in the world. We're never going to get a 100% true story on Vince McMahon detailing his life and all of the insanity. As a wrestling fan that is the gravest injustice.
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projecthalaxy posted:Dealing with Vince, and trying to tell him things, must be the most confusing and irritating thing in the world. He kind of has that bubble around him that certain incredibly famous people do. So you look at people like Michael Jackson or Prince. They were so entrenched in their music and creation that time almost literally just slips by and they suddenly get confused when confronted with the real world.
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what if Vince is just loving with people this entire time about being ignorant, and just does it because he can and has hundreds of millions of dollars. I mean I do the same thing at work all the time to rile people up, and I only have hundreds of dollars
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Shima Honnou posted:I really wanna know how that conversation went, exactly. Like, surely it couldn't have just been "You know there's Asians that do porn?", it had to have been something more specific than that. Knowing WWE and the McMahons Stephanie was probably in the room at the time.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:50
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DrVenkman posted:He kind of has that bubble around him that certain incredibly famous people do. So you look at people like Michael Jackson or Prince. They were so entrenched in their music and creation that time almost literally just slips by and they suddenly get confused when confronted with the real world.
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Jul 10, 2015 19:26
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Vince is the Kim Jong-Il of fake fighting.
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Onmi posted:We're never going to get a 100% true story on Vince McMahon detailing his life and all of the insanity. As a wrestling fan that is the gravest injustice. While this is true, I definitely wouldn't mind reading a 100% kayfabe biography of the man.
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Jul 10, 2015 20:52
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Onmi posted:We're never going to get a 100% true story on Vince McMahon detailing his life and all of the insanity. As a wrestling fan that is the gravest injustice. vince knows the exact time of his exit from this current plane of existence and will write a tell all autobiography just prior
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