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Riddler trophies carry over with your gear yo new game+ too so if you plan on playing that you can pick them up as you go over it again.
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SonicRulez posted:I don't get why people are so adamant about not doing the Riddler stuff. In City I remember it took me a few days of hunting since there was a million of them and you also had to use Catwoman and the game didn't come out over summer. This game took me a couple hours to round up all the of the Most Wanted's left after I finished the main story. Now granted, I did all the side quests to the best of my ability as they opened up in the main story. Still, it wasn't a big deal to me. I mean it's one thing to not have interest, but the vocal minority's response is like gently caress THIS, NOT A CHANCE, I'M GOING TO YOUTUBE! I've never collected all the Riddler trophies in any of these games, that poo poo's just tedious. Once I beat the game I'd much rather spend time playing through challenge maps than scouring the city for those stupid things. Unfortunately that's not much of an option with this game.
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Jul 10, 2015 02:45
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Interestingly enough, you can choose not to kill Penguin at the end when you're playing as the Joker. But why wouldn't you? 
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Jul 10, 2015 02:46
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You can also just ignore Riddler after shooting the cop.
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Jul 10, 2015 03:54
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Mogomra posted:But why wouldn't you? It's interesting to see what there's dialogue recorded for! Speaking of which MonsterEnvy posted:You can also just ignore Riddler after shooting the cop. Does he say anything if you do? Or does he just keep shooting at you?
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Jul 10, 2015 03:57
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SonicRulez posted:Seeing the extra map is pretty cool. Surely related to the upcoming DLC. The trailer has me pretty excited to play as Barbara. More Dual Play is always welcome. Fingers still crossed on Nightwing, Robin, and Catwoman not ending up like Harley and Jason. I liked the Harley dlc. Much too short though, but her character felt pretty unique and the maniac meter or whatever it was was a neat twist on play style.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:02
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Harley definitely felt like something they quickly threw together for pre-orders rather than any meaningful content. I hear the Red Hood stuff is similar.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:24
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poptart_fairy posted:Harley definitely felt like something they quickly threw together for pre-orders rather than any meaningful content. I hear the Red Hood stuff is similar.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:25
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Other than the initial CGI trailer I didn't see any promotional material so my expectations were quite low all around, I think. 
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Jul 10, 2015 04:32
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It seems like they did a good job designing her as a playable character (maniac meter, tape bomb thing, present bomb) but delivered next to no content.:
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Jul 10, 2015 04:43
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Much as I love Rocksteady, their DLC input has been a bit quite lack luster if it ain't a challenge map.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:44
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On a new save and I can't remember where you get the upgrade to control Riddlerbots  It's quest based, right?
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Jul 10, 2015 04:50
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Chasiubao posted:On a new save and I can't remember where you get the upgrade to control Riddlerbots After doing the movie studio section, I think, there should be a bot hanging around that area on a rooftop.
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Jul 10, 2015 04:59
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Well, I did it. Got 100%, Riddler poo poo and all. Guess I'll wait for the next patch before starting new game plus.
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Jul 10, 2015 05:00
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Mazerunner posted:After doing the movie studio section, I think, there should be a bot hanging around that area on a rooftop. Thanks! And I just YouTubed the scene after you beat Riddler and now I'm sad. Poor Selina 
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Jul 10, 2015 05:15
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Ugh, I just noticed goons will yell about broken limbs in combat if there's a lot of them. The Knight also has a pretty disturbing line if there's one soldier left - he'll start ranting and shrieking about how he can still hear the Joker's laughter in his head. Troy Baker completely nailed that performance.
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Jul 10, 2015 05:34
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SonicRulez posted:I don't get why people are so adamant about not doing the Riddler stuff. In City I remember it took me a few days of hunting since there was a million of them and you also had to use Catwoman and the game didn't come out over summer. This game took me a couple hours to round up all the of the Most Wanted's left after I finished the main story. Now granted, I did all the side quests to the best of my ability as they opened up in the main story. Still, it wasn't a big deal to me. I mean it's one thing to not have interest, but the vocal minority's response is like gently caress THIS, NOT A CHANCE, I'M GOING TO YOUTUBE! Honestly, they're just tedious and there are far too many trophies with little reward. You should get some boss upgrade for going to the trouble. I've gotten them all in previous games and have maybe 15 left in this one, but the collect-a-thon has worn out its welcome by now. Once I 100% this, I'll probably revisit it in 6 months or so when the Season Pass is cheaper. A really solid game, and Rocksteady's experiment with the Batmobile was pretty bold, love it or hate it. I still think the amount of tank-related gameplay segments and militia-based side missions could have been cut by 40-50% and the game would have been better for it.
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Jul 10, 2015 06:05
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Found kind of a funny, repeatable glitch. If you have the PS4 exclusive Scarecrow DLC, after playing it the weather gets kind of screwed up. Rain will almost completely vanish at the ground level on Bleak Island (there won't even be any water droplet effects on Batman). What's kind of funny is that it makes the weather go insane in interiors, too. If you go into the clock tower afterwards it's just a full-tilt monsoon and lightning show, like it's being haunted by the vengeful spirit of the Weather Wizard or something.
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Jul 10, 2015 06:39
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poptart_fairy posted:Ugh, I just noticed goons will yell about broken limbs in combat if there's a lot of them. The Knight also has a pretty disturbing line if there's one soldier left - he'll start ranting and shrieking about how he can still hear the Joker's laughter in his head. Troy Baker completely nailed that performance. Huh, never heard that one- does it happen in any particular predator section or its just random? Also it's kinda funny how every Robin is exactly 6ft tall, black haired, blue eyed precious crimefighter. They got lazy with the weights though- Jason Todd is 200 lbs as both Robin and Arkham Knight, yet he looks normal in the flashbacks , but pretty big in the present. I don't know if it's been talked about already, but how are people liking the more realistic art design. I think it worked in some cases- I liked the Riddler because he just looked like an idiot in his getup. But Harvey Dent to me just looks out of place. And Joker... he just doesn't look like a real person- his features and his body are just too exaggerated I think- too thin and sharp. In Origins I think they tried to at least give him a more realistic frame (and added buckteeth wtf), but here they just took the Asylum model and softened his features a bit.
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Jul 10, 2015 07:28
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UnsuitableWasp posted:And Joker... he just doesn't look like a real person- his features and his body are just too exaggerated I think- too thin and sharp. In Origins I think they tried to at least give him a more realistic frame (and added buckteeth wtf), but here they just took the Asylum model and softened his features a bit. Isn't the point that this Joker isn't a real person though? If anything he *should* look a little inhuman. Crashbee fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 07:31
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UnsuitableWasp posted:Also it's kinda funny how every Robin is exactly 6ft tall, black haired, blue eyed precious crimefighter.
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Jul 10, 2015 07:39
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UnsuitableWasp posted:Huh, never heard that one- does it happen in any particular predator section or its just random? It can happen after he's unmasked, I know that for definite. It might be something you can hear in NG+ Predator sections as he starts breaking down, but I've heard so many people freaking out at Bats they all kinda blur into one at this point. Also I definitely prefer the slightly more grounded style. It's nice not having everyone be roided up - I see a lot of skinny and chunky goons for example - and the colours that do get used really stand out. I won't get tired of swooping through the city during a rain storm as the casino lights reflect off everything. e; Oh my god just heard the best post game taunt. "How many billionaires does it take to make a superhero? Three. Two to die, and one to never get over it!" 
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Jul 10, 2015 07:40
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Crashbee posted:Isn't the point that this Joker isn't a real person though? If anything he *should* look a little inhuman. I think you're giving Rocksteady too much credit here. He doesn't look off because he's not real and a hallucination, he looks off because they kept their old design from the previous games since I guess it's hard to reimagine a character that is so unreal to begin with. And there's even this- the Joker in the Killing Joke flashback looks like he has a different body than the one who's your playthrough buddy. poptart_fairy posted:It can happen after he's unmasked, I know that for definite. It might be something you can hear in NG+ Predator sections as he starts breaking down, but I've heard so many people freaking out at Bats they all kinda blur into one at this point. UnsuitableWasp fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 07:42
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UnsuitableWasp posted:I don't know if it's been talked about already, but how are people liking the more realistic art design. I think it worked in some cases- I liked the Riddler because he just looked like an idiot in his getup. But Harvey Dent to me just looks out of place. And Joker... he just doesn't look like a real person- his features and his body are just too exaggerated I think- too thin and sharp. In Origins I think they tried to at least give him a more realistic frame (and added buckteeth wtf), but here they just took the Asylum model and softened his features a bit. The Joker certainly stands out as the most physically stylized non-mutant in this game, which makes him a bit jarring set against the other characters. Particularly Harley Quinn, whose facial animations I thought were quite frankly stunning, particularly considering the throwaway part she plays.. That said, I think it works for the Joker. He doesn't follow the same rules as the other villains throughout the franchise, hanging out in Batman's subconscious, swapping places in Batman's hallucinations in Asylum. It's fitting that he looks surreal. Scarecrow is by far my favorite design update. In Asylum he looked creepy, in Knight he looks downright terrifying. All the canisters and vials strapped to his outfit make him look like some kind of nightmare terrorist, and the leg braces are a really cool touch, and somehow very fitting for the character. It's definitely the best visual take on him I've seen, comic or otherwise.
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Mazerunner posted:I liked the Harley dlc. Much too short though, but her character felt pretty unique and the maniac meter or whatever it was was a neat twist on play style. Did you? I played hers once and decided that was enough. I didn't like her gameplay much at all. I really liked playing as Red Hood though, I replayed his a few times. UnsuitableWasp posted:Also it's kinda funny how every Robin is exactly 6ft tall, black haired, blue eyed precious crimefighter. It's not true, but it felt like drat near every character has black hair and blue eyes. Now I know in the comics the idea with Jason was to make him look like Dick for Bat Reasons, but I don't recall that being the case with Tim.
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Red Pyramid posted:The Joker certainly stands out as the most physically stylized non-mutant in this game, which makes him a bit jarring set against the other characters. Particularly Harley Quinn, whose facial animations I thought were quite frankly stunning, particularly considering the throwaway part she plays.. That said, I think it works for the Joker. He doesn't follow the same rules as the other villains throughout the franchise, hanging out in Batman's subconscious, swapping places in Batman's hallucinations in Asylum. It's fitting that he looks surreal. Yeah, I really liked the leg braces, Scarecrow's whole design gave the impression that's he's barely stitched himself together after the Croc attack. All the main game animation (facial and body) were top notch- I loved all the little nuances and touches- which made Batman turning into a robot when doing side mission dialogue all the more jarring. SonicRulez posted:It's not true, but it felt like drat near every character has black hair and blue eyes. Now I know in the comics the idea with Jason was to make him look like Dick for Bat Reasons, but I don't recall that being the case with Tim. Yeah, that's something I noticed too in City- way too many people listed with black hair, blue eyes. So if that really is Bruce's type (and who can blame him really ) I can see why he's so keen to protect Gotham. UnsuitableWasp fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 08:11
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Honestly, they're just tedious and there are far too many trophies with little reward. UnsuitableWasp posted:I think you're giving Rocksteady too much credit here. He doesn't look off because he's not real and a hallucination, he looks off because they kept their old design from the previous games since I quote:And there's even this- the Joker in the Killing Joke flashback looks like he has a different body than the one who's your playthrough buddy. theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 15:22
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theflyingorc posted:Just adding something like "gain a level for every 20 trophies" would have been really nice. Instead, I think I gained 1-2 levels over the course of solving all of them. I think a datapack was worth 4x more in Origins than in Knight. Relatively speaking, its probably even more, since there are a ton more upgrades in Knight.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:06
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SonicRulez posted:Did you? I played hers once and decided that was enough. I didn't like her gameplay much at all. I really liked playing as Red Hood though, I replayed his a few times. Wasn't it established in the comics that Jason has red hair, but Bruce has him dye it black to be more like Dick?
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Jul 10, 2015 16:06
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Rirse posted:Wasn't it established in the comics that Jason has red hair, but Bruce has him dye it black to be more like Dick?
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Jul 10, 2015 16:09
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Plothole, no real spoilers. Barbara is tied to her wheelchair for a big confrontational scene (this is why her lack of agency in that scene is probably OK). Moments later, when she takes a tumble, the ropes appear to have magically disappeared.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:12
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theflyingorc posted:This and this completely contradict each other.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:22
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redbackground posted:That was something Morrison tossed out in Batman & Robin, but I don't think it had any real basis in anything previously. The original version of Jason Todd (pre-Crisis) had red / strawberry blonde hair and dyed it. 
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Jul 10, 2015 16:22
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redbackground posted:That was something Morrison tossed out in Batman & Robin, but I don't think it had any real basis in anything previously. like most things Morrison, it was in the comics originally  this was pre-Crisis Jason "I watched my acrobat parents get murdered" Todd, not post-Crisis Jason "I'm stealing the wheels off the Batmobile" Todd. edit: ^ 
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Jul 10, 2015 16:25
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redbackground posted:I can't stop playing this game with the Zur-En-Arrh skin. Thank you whoever approved that decision. Wait, is it out?
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Jul 10, 2015 16:27
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Alter Ego posted:Wait, is it out? Nope, they figured out how to get it enabled on the PC version, though. Apparently it's on-disc and is somehow supposed to tie in to your WBID account. Like everything else, it's apparently being held off on in order to discourage trade-ins.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:30
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UnsuitableWasp posted:Really? So you think the Joker looks how he looks because he's a hallucination. Then what about the Batgirl dlc trailer- he looks exactly the same there and he's real. Yeah. Joker isn't like the other villains in the franchise. The aesthetic rules of the other characters don't apply to him. Which is fitting.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:55
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I was not expecting professor pyg to show up and I'm glad he's in. He's just such a weird batman villain and the voice actor must have been having a ton of fun with the role.
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Jul 10, 2015 17:04
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Crappy Jack posted:Nope, they figured out how to get it enabled on the PC version, though. Apparently it's on-disc and is somehow supposed to tie in to your WBID account. Like everything else, it's apparently being held off on in order to discourage trade-ins. It's not on-disk, you need the Harley DLC to use it.
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Monaghan posted:I was not expecting professor pyg to show up and I'm glad he's in. He's just such a weird batman villain and the voice actor must have been having a ton of fun with the role. Well, look at his most famous prior role, Murdock of the A-Team. Yeah he definitely knows how to have fun with a role.
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