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If they televise a Trump-Jindal-Fiorina-Santorum debate, it will be the greatest night of my life. It'll also be the last night of my life because the drinking game will kill me.
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The Trump polls just confirm what the internet has been saying all these years: there's a shitload of really crazy american people.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:23
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I'm kind of wondering what kind of insanity we're going to hear from the other Candidates in order to boost their numbers to get into the Debates. Specifically Bobby Jindal, I know he's a crazy motherfucker. Confederate Flag Facial Tattoo?
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Jul 10, 2015 15:31
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The X-man cometh posted:If they televise a Trump-Jindal-Fiorina-Santorum debate, it will be the greatest night of my life. What if he actually 2 of Graham, Kasich, and Pataki on board? It could actually look just as serious than the fox debate.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:46
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Don's making inroads with the female vote.quote:The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment regarding whether or not The Donald still believes that having a lot of sex with a lot of different women is a good qualification for commander-in-chief. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/09/the-donald-is-a-ho.html
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Jul 10, 2015 15:48
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Rubio, doing what everyone expected, says he'd roll back Cuba rapprochement: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/10/marco-rubio-cuba-obama-policy-roll-back
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Jul 10, 2015 15:50
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Rubio, doing what everyone expected, says he'd roll back Cuba rapprochement: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/10/marco-rubio-cuba-obama-policy-roll-back I guess this is good for the primary, but if he wins the primary this'll hurt in the general. People are in favor of normalization with Cuba. The embargo gets more and more absurd every day.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:54
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If they block Trump, then the unofficial debate for the un-Top 10 is going to have Trump, Christie, Santorum, Kasich, Graham, Pataki, Jindal, and Fiorina.(I think that's everyone?) Which will make it not only more entertaining, but will also create a debate with a much larger diversity of opinion. Also Christi an Trump are going to try and out loudmouth rear end in a top hat each other. In other words it's going to have higher ratings and be talked about by the rest of the media more than the official debate. Which pretty much will make it the defacto official debate. Sorry, Jeb!.
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Alter Ego posted:I guess this is good for the primary, but if he wins the primary this'll hurt in the general. People are in favor of normalization with Cuba. The embargo gets more and more absurd every day. Well, it's also for his fellow Cubans, who iirc, aren't big on it because REWARDING THE CASTROS.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:55
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Well, it's also for his fellow Cubans, who iirc, aren't big on it because REWARDING THE CASTROS. Isn't that just the old Cubans, with pretty much all the Cubans Rubio's age and younger being for relations?
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Jul 10, 2015 15:57
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Gyges posted:Isn't that just the old Cubans, with pretty much all the Cubans Rubio's age and younger being for relations? I think, but then, who are the ones who vote?
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Jul 10, 2015 15:58
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Gyges posted:Isn't that just the old Cubans, with pretty much all the Cubans Rubio's age and younger being for relations? Guess which age group tends to vote more in elections in a major swing state?
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Jul 10, 2015 15:58
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Gyges posted:If they block Trump, then the unofficial debate for the un-Top 10 is going to have Trump, Christie, Santorum, Kasich, Graham, Pataki, Jindal, and Fiorina.(I think that's everyone?) Which will make it not only more entertaining, but will also create a debate with a much larger diversity of opinion. Also Christi an Trump are going to try and out loudmouth rear end in a top hat each other. The RNC is stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to Trump. If you block him from the first debate, you cement a persecution complex in the minds of his supporters so hard that nothing will ever dislodge it. The narrative will become "RINOs are trying to silence Trump because he's telling it like it is!" Trump is basically a golem consisting of all the crap that's been dogwhistled for the last eight years--a Golgothan of racism, misogyny, and stupidity--and instead of shunning him, voters on that side are elevating him to Reagan status. So you can't really keep him out. But let him in, and you turn the debate into a three-ring circus. Every candidate will have to respond to every stupid thing Trump has said in the last couple of months, and Trump will drag them down to his level and beat them with experience. It's a no-win situation. And I love it.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:01
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Gyges posted:If they block Trump, then the unofficial debate for the un-Top 10 is going to have Trump, Christie, Santorum, Kasich, Graham, Pataki, Jindal, and Fiorina.(I think that's everyone?) Which will make it not only more entertaining, but will also create a debate with a much larger diversity of opinion. Also Christi an Trump are going to try and out loudmouth rear end in a top hat each other. Someone forgot about Gilmentum!
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Jul 10, 2015 16:04
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Sir Tonk posted:Is that the PPACA? Must be the tax code, or maybe a section of the CFR- the PPACA isn't particularly large, nowhere near that scale. edit: I can't find a source for that image, actually.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:10
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Guess which age group tends to vote more in elections in a major swing state? Na Florida's pretty Democratic, this only helps him in the primary there, and we'll see if he even makes it. Trump is all powerful.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:15
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I think, but then, who are the ones who vote? In the 2012 elections the Cuban vote split basically even between Obama and Romney, where it had traditionally been more Republican. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/
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Jul 10, 2015 16:15
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MaxxBot posted:In the 2012 elections the Cuban vote split basically even between Obama and Romney, where it had traditionally been more Republican. Again, older Cuban-Americans versus the folks who are tired of grandpa's ranting or want to be able to see their home again before they die.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:20
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I don't know why anybody is debating on whether to vote for Hillary or for Bernie when the obvious choice is Trump.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:27
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I actually think Trump is a great because he's such a polarizing figure that regardless of the outcome maybe he'll encourage more people to come to vote.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:28
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Gyges posted:Isn't that just the old Cubans, with pretty much all the Cubans Rubio's age and younger being for relations? It's important to remember that most of the Cubans in the US were the wealthy elite that had property seized during the revolution when redistribution was occurring. I was in Cuba in March, and most of Cubans (meaning people LIVING in Cuba) are extremely excited about relationship normalization. Under Fidel there was a lot of issues, and Cuba still has issues (much like the US has issues) but under Raul there has been a shift to more personal freedoms. Cubans are now allowed to buy and sell land (with governmental approval), along with own businesses (instead if having everything state controlled). The state does control most of everything, but they are opening up to note free enterprise. It's important to remember why there was a revolution in Cuba in the first place - a small rich elite and corporations controlled the majority of the wealth and exploited everyone else to increase that wealth. Certain similarities can be drawn to our current situation in the US.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:29
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computer parts posted:That's not the issue at all, the problem is that a college degree is required for *any* job that's not minimum wage, and colleges in general cost a ton. This is absolutely & unequivocally untrue, at least the first part of the statement. It would be better phrased by intimating that a college degree *should* allow a person to enter the workforce at a level above minimum wage. But I've spent nearly 2 decades working between the offshore & oil/gas industries and can say, beyond anecdotally, that there are plenty of high-wage earners in those sectors that have zero college credits.
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Hollismason posted:I actually think Trump is a great because he's such a polarizing figure that regardless of the outcome maybe he'll encourage more people to come to vote. I don't know if having such a terrible candidate that people turn out in droves to make sure he's not elected is a viable long-term method to increase voter participation.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:36
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A Trump Republican nomination might actually give the Democrats a tiny sliver of a chance of winning the House.
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JT Jag posted:A Trump Republican nomination might actually give the Democrats a tiny sliver of a chance of winning the House. well then
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Jul 10, 2015 16:40
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:well then
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Jul 10, 2015 16:41
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Can candidates switch party affiliation during the campaign trail? I'd love to see Trump run as a Democrat just for shits & giggles.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:43
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Can candidates switch party affiliation during the campaign trail? I'd love to see Trump run as a Democrat just for shits & giggles. He's already talking about running as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination. 
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Can candidates switch party affiliation during the campaign trail? I'd love to see Trump run as a Democrat just for shits & giggles. Yes, but this may disqualify them from the ballot in certain states and it would be up to the Secretary of State or equivalent election official in those states to determine what to do. That's really the answer to all these "Air Bud" questions that are being asked in this thread. There's not likely to be a hard-and-fast rule on what happens because it's not going to happen.
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I thought he was holding a Magic: The Gathering card until I focused. 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Well, it's also for his fellow Cubans, who iirc, aren't big on it because REWARDING THE CASTROS. Older Cubans are actually all on board the Cuba train since they value seeing their country one last time over keeping up old grudges. So Rubio's basically pulling a Jim Webb here. C2C - 2.0 posted:This is absolutely & unequivocally untrue, at least the first part of the statement. It would be better phrased by intimating that a college degree *should* allow a person to enter the workforce at a level above minimum wage. Oil & gas are kind of the last vestiges of the unskilled high paying labor that people here pine for and it's not going to be a growth industry moving forward.
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Squizzle posted:I thought he was holding a Magic: The Gathering card until I focused. Thats says more about you than them.
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TheQat posted:i don't think offshore oil & gas is really a go-to option for most people I wasn't implying that, really. I was just providing a counter-point to the idea that a college degree is absolutely necessary to become a high-wage earner. On balance, it's a more likely scenario, yeah. EDIT: At least here in the Southeast, hard trades (welding, fabricating, pipefitting, etc.) can pull in very respectable yearly salaries for only a fraction of the education required by 4-year universities. And although many of those trades do support the petro/chem industries, they aren't exclusive to those industries. C2C - 2.0 fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Alter Ego posted:The RNC is stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to Trump. i just orgasmed
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Jul 10, 2015 17:11
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Anybody know what Vermin Supreme is doing in light of recent election hijinks?
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If Trump is kept out of the debates, it wouldn't surprise me if he bought airtime on one of the other major networks to host his own yooj, luxurious debate, with him and every other person who didn't make the cut for Fox News. He'd try to do it at the same time, but I doubt they'd let him.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:EDIT: At least here in the Southeast, hard trades (welding, fabricating, pipefitting, etc.) can pull in very respectable yearly salaries for only a fraction of the education required by 4-year universities. And although many of those trades do support the petro/chem industries, they aren't exclusive to those industries. From what some goons here have said they require like double the hours of a traditional job (60 hour weeks are not only common, but expected).
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