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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

http://fashionweekdaily.com/true-life-im-a-rich-kid/

quote:

You have a credit card. What kind?
I have a Gold AmEx. Sometimes at stores they question me, like when I was buying chocolate recently, and they looked to my nanny to see if she was going to pay, but I gave them my credit card and they said, “Aren’t you a little young for this?”
Do you pay your credit card bill yourself?
My mom does. I don’t even look at it. I am too young for that.

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Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

preeeeetty sure this is fake

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

at the date posted:

preeeeetty sure this is fake

I'm not immune to irony, but if it's a joke Daily Summer is a goddamn work of art

like, those ads are ClickHole-level poo poo if they're fake

edit beyond ClickHole, no way that's satire. It's too good.

i say swears online fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jul 10, 2015

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
I write my *cheques from the back of the book to the front so the bank thinks I'm a Timelord.

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Aliquid posted:

I'm not immune to irony, but if it's a joke Daily Summer is a goddamn work of art

like, those ads are ClickHole-level poo poo if they're fake

edit beyond ClickHole, no way that's satire. It's too good.

holy poo poo

lord1234
Oct 1, 2008
Not only are these people historically BWM(as seen by tons of posts here from the security clearance review files), but also, now they are bad with identity theft:(

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/09/politics/office-of-personnel-management-data-breach-20-million/index.html

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

lord1234 posted:

Not only are these people historically BWM(as seen by tons of posts here from the security clearance review files), but also, now they are bad with identity theft:(

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/09/politics/office-of-personnel-management-data-breach-20-million/index.html

That data could be used to compromise a large number of people with security clearances. As bad or worse than people with serious financial problems.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3crh4c/what_is_something_rich_people_buy_that_poor/

not necessarily bad with money, but interesting and terrifying... especially

PERSPECTIVE. The wealthiest person I have spent time with makes about $400mm/year. i couldn't get my mind around that until I did this: OK--let's compare it with someone who makes $40,000/year. It is 10,000x more. Now let's look at prices the way he might. A new Lambo--$235,000 becaome $23.50. First class ticket internationally? $10,000 becomes $1. A full time executive level helper? $8,000/month becomes $0.80/month. A $10mm piece of art you love? $1000. Expensive, so you have to plan a bit. A suite at the best hotel in NYC $10,000/night is $1/night. A $50million home in the Hamptons? $5,000. There is literally nothing you can't buy except.

Hunt the rich the revolution will not be civilized.

Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jul 10, 2015

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.
I work with private jets for a living. The amount of money people will drop on some things are absurd.

The $95 coffee cups stood out to me in particular.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I dunno, some coffee cups are worth it.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Aliquid posted:

I dunno, some coffee cups are worth it.

I might, might, pay $20k for a mug if it had on it a picture of the queen of England doing full frontal nudity. Any age is fine.

Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal
https://youtu.be/Iz3m_7ozhNo

On phone so it won't paste as an embedded video, but this girl takes out thousands in bank loans on minimum wage to fund her obsession with ninja turtles. Cross posting from furry thread in bfcs parent forum that I cannot remember the name of at the moment.

E ask/tell

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009
That must almost certainly be a mental illness or high functioning autism. My $2 is on the latter.

High Lord Elbow
Jun 21, 2013

"You can sit next to Elvira."

Jack2142 posted:

Hunt the rich the revolution will not be civilized.

Nor will the aftermath, when the economic illiterates suckered by envy-based politics realize that rich people got rich by building the safe, comfortable civilization they took for granted out of an overinflated sense of entitlement.

You'll be cold, starved, and bored, but everyone else will be too. I guess that's "fair."

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Thanks for the sense of superiority over "economic illiterates", guy who posted this:

High Lord Elbow posted:

I'm 6'5". I commute to an office job in an F-150 and happily burn fuel at 14mpg. Sometimes it's less about "bad with money" and more about "good with legroom."

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

High Lord Elbow posted:

Nor will the aftermath, when the economic illiterates suckered by envy-based politics realize that rich people got rich by building the safe, comfortable civilization they took for granted out of an overinflated sense of entitlement.

You'll be cold, starved, and bored, but everyone else will be too. I guess that's "fair."

No they didn't. They got rich on insider trading from their Congress connections, where they and their buddies get to vote on their own salary and have never once turned down an exorbitant raise. They continue to be rich by not paying taxes because their assets are sheltered offshore, and they're not at risk of bankruptcy from getting sick because they have baller socialized medical care that the rest of us don't have access to.

They also, you know, impact the laws that get rid of banking regulations to further gently caress over anyone who doesn't own stock in that bank, allow those banks and car manufacturers to continue with unsustainable and predatory practices, and then make us all bail out same when their lovely business practices bite them in the rear end, because our economy is too dependent on them.

But yeah. Rich people all totally got rich by building hospitals and schools and roads and fire departments. Oh wait.

It's almost like there would be more financially and otherwise literate people in this country if they were actually educated...but it's a little tough to do that when a bunch of people who got rich from "building society" opt to spend the money on their military contractor buddies instead of education.

You're totally right though. Non-wealthy people are just jealous.

High Lord Elbow
Jun 21, 2013

"You can sit next to Elvira."
Frothing leftist goons: Bad with accepting anything that conflicts with what their crazy freshman sociology professors told them.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

High Lord Elbow posted:

Frothing leftist goons: Bad with accepting anything that conflicts with what their crazy freshman sociology professors told them.

Troll a different thread if you're not even going to be funny.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Remember how absolutely no one got rich bundling up worthless mortgages, sweet-talking ratings agencies into calling them investment grade, and then loading up the balance sheets of critical financial institutions with them? Because thankfully everyone in our civilization-giving financial system is financially literate enough not to fall for that one, or else they wouldn't have been wealthy and successful in the first place.

EDIT: Not going to go so far as to say that we need to eat the bankers (sorry frothing leftists!) But the 80s and 90s saw unprecedentedly huge explosions of wealth that were facilitated by a financial industry much smaller and more limited. Meanwhile the deregulated 21st century financial industry has made a lot of money for the financial sector at the expense of everyone else.

the holy poopacy fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jul 11, 2015

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

NancyPants posted:

No they didn't. They got rich on insider trading from their Congress connections, where they and their buddies get to vote on their own salary and have never once turned down an exorbitant raise. They continue to be rich by not paying taxes because their assets are sheltered offshore, and they're not at risk of bankruptcy from getting sick because they have baller socialized medical care that the rest of us don't have access to.

They also, you know, impact the laws that get rid of banking regulations to further gently caress over anyone who doesn't own stock in that bank, allow those banks and car manufacturers to continue with unsustainable and predatory practices, and then make us all bail out same when their lovely business practices bite them in the rear end, because our economy is too dependent on them.

But yeah. Rich people all totally got rich by building hospitals and schools and roads and fire departments. Oh wait.

It's almost like there would be more financially and otherwise literate people in this country if they were actually educated...but it's a little tough to do that when a bunch of people who got rich from "building society" opt to spend the money on their military contractor buddies instead of education.

You're totally right though. Non-wealthy people are just jealous.

:allears:

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
HLE: Why is investment income not taxed at the same rate as regular income?

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Radbot posted:

How about more Bad With Money and less My Ideological Take on Macroeconomics?

ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?

Nocheez posted:

HLE: Why is investment income not taxed at the same rate as regular income?

To encourage investment, but it has the fun side-effect of encouraging highly compensated people to get various stock options instead of wages so that they can pay less tax.

ChipNDip fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jul 11, 2015

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

pig slut lisa posted:

Thanks for the sense of superiority over "economic illiterates", guy who posted this:

It seems like every person thats over 6'0" thinks they're wilt chamberlain and cant fit into a normal car

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

mastershakeman posted:

It seems like every person thats over 6'0" thinks they're wilt chamberlain and cant fit into a normal car

Eat the rich and tall (there will be plenty to go around)

asur
Dec 28, 2012

ChipNDip posted:

To encourage investment, but it has the fun side-effect of encouraging highly compensated people to get various stock options instead of wages so that they can pay less tax.

The argument that capital gains should be significantly lower than ordinary income doesn't really make sense. Saying that it encourages investment is basically saying that there is another option for excess money that would have a better rate of return, but the government wants to encourage investment in assets that fall under capital gains and thus gives a tax break to enhance the rate of return of specific assets. These other assets really don't exist and this is backed up by research that has shown that the rate of investment doesn't correlate to the capital gains rate. It also creates perverse incentives such as inefficient tax shelters that reclassify income to capital gains and the long term rate encouraging holding assess in a bubble.

asur fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jul 11, 2015

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Jack2142 posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3crh4c/what_is_something_rich_people_buy_that_poor/

not necessarily bad with money, but interesting and terrifying... especially

PERSPECTIVE. The wealthiest person I have spent time with makes about $400mm/year. i couldn't get my mind around that until I did this: OK--let's compare it with someone who makes $40,000/year. It is 10,000x more. Now let's look at prices the way he might. A new Lambo--$235,000 becaome $23.50. First class ticket internationally? $10,000 becomes $1. A full time executive level helper? $8,000/month becomes $0.80/month. A $10mm piece of art you love? $1000. Expensive, so you have to plan a bit. A suite at the best hotel in NYC $10,000/night is $1/night. A $50million home in the Hamptons? $5,000. There is literally nothing you can't buy except.

Hunt the rich the revolution will not be civilized.

Not to get into a 'eat the rich' debate here, but it also costs a lot more to be wealthy. Taxes are higher, especially if it's a 'real job' rather than investment income. You've also got to employ a lot of people to maintain that lifestyle - accountants, advisers, entourages, etc. Take that Merryweather fight as an example. Sure he got $100 million, but his manager gets a big cut, his trainer gets a chunk, and there's a whole hierarchy below them that get paid.

At the end of the day it's still awesome to have money. Very few rich people long for the days when they had to watch every penny. But their 'take home pay' is significantly less than what it appears.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Nocheez posted:

HLE: Why is investment income not taxed at the same rate as regular income?

To increase inequality. One of the recent articles that demonstrated the difference between the rich and poor was simply whether or not you invest money. If you combine tax breaks on investment income and compounding interest effect that makes the gap even wider.

It does encourage investment though.

last laugh
Feb 11, 2004

NOOOTHING!

Nocheez posted:

HLE: Why is investment income not taxed at the same rate as regular income?

Theoretically to reduce double taxation, but that would imply corporations pay taxes on profits instead of just stashing money overseas, borrowing money in the US, and using that for dividends/buybacks.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

mastershakeman posted:

It seems like every person thats over 6'0" thinks they're wilt chamberlain and cant fit into a normal car

This poo poo cracks me up. Like the dude in the bad car loan thread who needed a BMW or whatever for his 6'2" massive size.

I'm 6'5" and drive a Kia Forte. I find it more comfortable than truck/SUV driving. People use lots of excuses to be bad with money

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

oxsnard posted:

This poo poo cracks me up. Like the dude in the bad car loan thread who needed a BMW or whatever for his 6'2" massive size.

I'm 6'5" and drive a Kia Forte. I find it more comfortable than truck/SUV driving. People use lots of excuses to be bad with money

Agreed. I'm 6'3" and have plenty of room in my Hyundai Sonata and drove a Ford Escort for a number of years. In most cars if you don't have a sunroof you'll be fine unless you're close to 7' tall and/or don't know how to adjust your seat. Of course if you want to try and sit in a Miata or something similar, LOL, good luck with that. Test drove one for about 10' on a car lot and had the steering wheel between my knees. Drove a friend's Porsche Boxster with a similar experience.

Yeah, there are a lot of cars that suck for tall people, but there are also a lot that are fine, including compacts that get 25-30+ MPG.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
I have a friend who is 6'1" and is perfectly comfortable driving a mini. Of course not all small cars are going to work for you stilt people, but "I need this F150 because I'm tall" is a bullshit excuse unless you're pushing 300 pounds.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Dillbag posted:

I have a friend who is 6'1" and is perfectly comfortable driving a mini. Of course not all small cars are going to work for you stilt people, but "I need this F150 because I'm tall" is a bullshit excuse unless you're pushing 300 pounds.

A Ford Focus (and many other cars) still work fine in that case. gently caress you guys, I just know.

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

Wahnsinn
Einfach
Wahnsinn

Dillbag posted:

I have a friend who is 6'1" and is perfectly comfortable driving a mini. Of course not all small cars are going to work for you stilt people, but "I need this F150 because I'm tall" is a bullshit excuse unless you're pushing 300 pounds.

I once knew a guy who said he drove a truck because "a real man isn't going to fit into a car".

I only knew him on the internet (and he was an utter idiot in general, definitely an acquaintance rather than a friend) but that always cracked me up. I can't imagine how fat you have to be to actually think that.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Devian666 posted:

To increase inequality. One of the recent articles that demonstrated the difference between the rich and poor was simply whether or not you invest money. If you combine tax breaks on investment income and compounding interest effect that makes the gap even wider.

It does encourage investment though.
If having lower capital gains taxes encourages investment, by the same logic doesn't having lower personal income taxes encourage working more? Which would imply that choosing to have capital gains taxes be lower is an expression of a preference for more investing over more working.

Hoshi
Jan 20, 2013

:wrongcity:

Krispy Kareem posted:

Not to get into a 'eat the rich' debate here, but it also costs a lot more to be wealthy. Taxes are higher, especially if it's a 'real job' rather than investment income. You've also got to employ a lot of people to maintain that lifestyle - accountants, advisers, entourages, etc. Take that Merryweather fight as an example. Sure he got $100 million, but his manager gets a big cut, his trainer gets a chunk, and there's a whole hierarchy below them that get paid.

At the end of the day it's still awesome to have money. Very few rich people long for the days when they had to watch every penny. But their 'take home pay' is significantly less than what it appears.

Hmm yes that fight anecdote really does apply to the super wealthy in the financial sector.

Poor rich people who don't use tax shelters (and therefore arguably aren't rich) only getting 60% of what they make over $250k or whatever.

The only thing your anecdote shows is that it takes money to make more money, unless you earnestly believe people below the first rung in that hierarchy took IOUs for their work in which case you're a boring troll please gently caress off.

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009

Dillbag posted:

I have a friend who is 6'1" and is perfectly comfortable driving a mini. Of course not all small cars are going to work for you stilt people, but "I need this F150 because I'm tall" is a bullshit excuse unless you're pushing 300 pounds.

I'm 6'1" and not small and have driven about every small car through company cars including my boss' Fiat comfortably.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Im 6'3" and can drive a mini. In fact the one car in our family is a mini (I usually use trains and cabs) and its fine. I wouldn't want to go cross country driving it but anything else is totally fine.

Other hatchbacks are mostly better than a mini.

Also investment is a dumb word. Im not investing any extra money into company x im just buying someone elses share in that company. Im not helping that company expand or build new facilties im just buying someone elses share of the profit or speculation on future growth. Tax breaks should be for ipos or share issues not market churn.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
I know one guy who's six foot whatever and can't fit into anything but his truck. It's because he's 300 pounds. I'm going to extend this anecdote and assume anyone who NEEDS a truck is grossly obese.

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SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

I'm 5'0" and greatly dislike driving anything larger than a full-size sedan or the smallest of SUV type vehicle. No full-size trucks, minivans, or SUVs for me.

I still get to be BWM by driving an Acura TSX now instead of the perfectly adequate Honda Accord that I used to own.

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