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Zsinjeh posted:Either I'm Admiral Nelson reincarnated or the pubbies in this game loving suck. As long as you keep yourself close to a formation you will absolutely wipe the other team. Almost to my first battleship non-premium and I've only lost one game Now get used to failing even with formations, because pubbies will crowd around a single point on a tri-point map and then run from said single point once the fighting starts.
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Jul 10, 2015 21:30
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Is there any way to see your gun's pen? Or the armor of a ship? I'm kind of guessing when I can pen with AP right now. always use AP in battleships, most ap will pen japanese cruisers, same or higher tier US cruisers are a crapshoot destroyers are probably all autopen with HE anyway. If you're very far away aim high to land on decks, if you're close go for the waterline directly under smokestacks or turrets. If you're in a miyogi just click wherever because your aim has no influence on the outcome whatsoever
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I gutted it out and got myself a Langley... Sky cancer is pretty drat fun! Is there any way to rotate your drop pattern when using alt-drop for torpedoes? I also branched out into ninja destroyers and am having a blast as well. I think it's just the slow rear end battleships and cruisers that are driving me nuts. Which tree should I pursue destroyers down, the U.S. or Japan?
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JacksLibido posted:I gutted it out and got myself a Langley... Sky cancer is pretty drat fun! Is there any way to rotate your drop pattern when using alt-drop for torpedoes? US destroyers have good guns (wrecks other destroyers) and short-med range torpedo until you hit higher tier, whereas IJN destroyers have better concealment and long range torpedo. e: US battleships are slow until you hit Colorado or North Carolina (28 knots), and US cruisers generally go about at 33~35 knots depending on ship. Aesis fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 21:34
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Aesis posted:eg. Pay 500g for 'level 5' Commander with 10k xp -> Same level, keep 10k xp I've found the 500g price loving exorbitant, so what I do is train the captain to the new hull with the 200k option, then use a premium ship to get him back up to 100%. The best part? Even though his skills will be 50% effective on the hull you trained him for, they'll be 100% effective on the premium ship. I'm also kind of waiting until the day WG figures out that they could charge extra gold to 'refit' existing premiums. For instance, 2500g to add a tier-appropriate AA spread to the Arkansas Beta, or longer-ranged torpedoes to the Sims, etc. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 21:40
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I've found the 500g price loving exorbitant, so what I do is train the captain to the new hull with the 200k option, then use a premium ship to get him back up to 100%. The best part? Even though his skills will be 50% effective on the hull you trained him for, they'll be 100% effective on the premium ship.
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Everyone should play IJN destroyers at least up until tier 5. The Minekaze deserves a permanent spot in everyone's port like the St. Louis. Whether you continue on from there depends on your tolerance for the Mutsuki.   Edit: Replay for an object lesson in why going in a straight line at a constant speed is a bad idea. It was not an impressive game, just shooting torps along the grey indicator. The only thing that took a bit of skill was winning a gun duel with an Isokaze. grrarg fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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I think I need to focus more on gunnery in my Clemson. Whenever I try to aggressively torp I get wrecked bad. But it's not hard to sandblast other destroyers with cannon. I noticed I do best with torpedoes when I'm not focused on it and rather use them opportunistically.
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I manged to wade through the Langley and bought the Bogue then used free exp to unlock modules. I went with the 2 fighters and 1 dive bomber since I have a captain with the first 2 fighter perks. Dive bombing doesn't seem to do much damage but my fighters are pretty good at getting rid of the opposition. I've had clear skies 3 times in a row now and getting the hang of manual bombing (I missed one tenryu because quite shockingly he simply didn't move).
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Jul 10, 2015 22:26
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Panfilo posted:I think I need to focus more on gunnery in my Clemson. Whenever I try to aggressively torp I get wrecked bad. But it's not hard to sandblast other destroyers with cannon. This seems to be the accepted usefulness of most of the IJN Cruisers, American Cruisers with torpedoes, and American DDs. They're not so much for killing off groups of ships with torpedo volleys and bullshit as they are for slapping people with guns until there's a single unescorted BB that might be a good torpedo target now that he's 6km away.
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psy.Che posted:At least the stock version of the Fuso is making it quite hard for me right now - the low range kills it for me. ...Fuso? Low range? Buh? It was one of the longest-range, most accurate BBs in the game, and I was regularly citadeling stuff at 20+km. But I was playing with upgrades.
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Kesper North posted:...Fuso? Low range? Buh? It was one of the longest-range, most accurate BBs in the game, and I was regularly citadeling stuff at 20+km. But I was playing with upgrades. They added the 1914 configuration, which does away with it's main selling feature, the hilarious pagoda tower.
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I swear Peniscola has lolpaper armor and whole hull is made out of citadel. Got hit by Aoba's 9 out of maybe 100-150 AP shells from 12~14 km but managed to lose about 12k hp, probably 3~4 citadel hits  Even more annoying when he'd only shoot me for 10 whole minutes even when there were others well inside his range, and all of his shells were AP (saw couple shots land at bad angle and bounce). Even after death his torpedoes barely missed me by like 2 meters when I was traveling straight to cut distance between map edge abusing New Orleans. Previous game I was losing 5~8k hp from Atlanta every time he did salvo shot, and getting hit at front or rear still resulted in citadel hit.e: At least its xp reward seems alright. I'm regularly getting 1.5k base xp on win just doing 30~50k damage.
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Ratzap posted:I manged to wade through the Langley and bought the Bogue then used free exp to unlock modules. I went with the 2 fighters and 1 dive bomber since I have a captain with the first 2 fighter perks. Dive bombing doesn't seem to do much damage but my fighters are pretty good at getting rid of the opposition. I've had clear skies 3 times in a row now and getting the hang of manual bombing (I missed one tenryu because quite shockingly he simply didn't move). I did the same and you get some pretty great games out of it, like this. Yeah it was a loss, but his raging in chat made it worth it.  Then again I also had a langley 1v1 my fighter squad and totally destroy it with 0 loss to his fighters this last game. I'm still not sure how that happened. I have them fully upgraded, didnt manage to take down a single plane. ranbo das fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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How brutal are the penalties to move a captain from one ship to the next on the tree (in this case St. Louis > Phoenix)?
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No idea, but you probably can't use any skills until you retrain the captain.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:55
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on that note, what tier is the sweet spot for credit grinding?
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yaay posted:on that note, what tier is the sweet spot for credit grinding? Tier 3 is sort of the Tier 5 in this game because there are a lot of good ships at T3 - the St. Louis, BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Jul 11, 2015 00:23
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Kuma is Tier 4.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Tier 3 is sort of the Tier 5 in this game because there are a lot of good ships at T3 - the St. Louis, Kuma, South Carolina... I mean more in terms of credit scaling v repair costs
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Lakedaimon posted:How brutal are the penalties to move a captain from one ship to the next on the tree (in this case St. Louis > Phoenix)? I tend to transfer captains. The xp required to retrain increases with tier, but usually it's about 10 games at normal average xp. I'd say at first it's good to keep a captain that's earned about 3-4 points already.
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I would guess the higher tiers (5-6?) end up more profitable if you run flags. 50% more credits and 5% lower repair cost will make more difference than on tier 3s. It depends on how many flags you have though, and for some reason you're limited to one credit flag a day (compared to 10 experience flags). I suppose if you really want to sperg out over your credit income, you just use the flags on tier 10s and credit grind in tier 3-5 without flags.
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Panfilo posted:I noticed I do best with torpedoes when I'm not focused on it and rather use them opportunistically. This is exactly how you should be playing US destroyers. At least until you get the Fletcher, where you have 10.5km torpedoes that go fast and hit like a freight train. Aesis posted:No idea, but you probably can't use any skills until you retrain the captain. Skills are at 50% during retraining, except for on/off skills like Situational Awareness which are "off" entirely. Aesis posted:I swear Peniscola has lolpaper armor and whole hull is made out of citadel. They really need to add back in the armor stats in port, because this is pretty much the case. It has armor comparable to the Omaha (bad). Both the Cleveland and New Orleans have much better armor.
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ijyt posted:Is the Bismarck returning at some point in Open Beta or was it CBT exclusive? If you mean Warspite, it'll almost certainly be back in the future when they need some money, because they never promised it would not return
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NTRabbit posted:If you mean Warspite, it'll almost certainly be back in the future when they need some money, because they never promised it would not return Just like they learned their lesson with the WoT preorder tanks. Provided WoWS is still a viable game in late June of next year, they'll have the Grem, Sims, and Yubari back for sale since they only have a one-year exclusivity clause on them. Just look forward to paying a premium for the Grem (which might not be as good at that point vOv).
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NTRabbit posted:If you mean Warspite, it'll almost certainly be back in the future when they need some money, because they never promised it would not return No, Bismarck.
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A top-tier Omaha can be pretty insane sometimes. Yes that's a daily and a +50% xp flag. I have a shitload of those things and thanks to this game I have even more!    I was worried that I'd have to go around and play AA defense, but our two Langleys actually did pretty well. What I did have to do is play DD defense, and I murdered every one of their destroyers.  ijyt posted:No, Bismarck. Were you playing a different CBT than the rest of us? That wasn't even in the loving alpha. 
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I love the St. Louis, but drat is it slow. Also, gently caress pubbies. My ENTIRE TEAM died before I got to where I was going on the map... seriously... everyone. Maybe 30 seconds after I engaged my first ship, the game said, "You're the last player," or whatever it says.  There were at least 3 battleships on my team. It doesn't seem possible to die that quickly.
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Wait, are flags consumable or something? Lame. I guess I'm saving my +50%xp for a rainy day or until I get better at this game. Good people: do you focus on lining up your movement before focusing on shooting? I feel like I need to do that.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Wait, are flags consumable or something? Lame. I guess I'm saving my +50%xp for a rainy day or until I get better at this game. And yes always focus on movement before shooting. Turning too late and getting yourself stuck because you focused too much on shooting is bad.
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What the hell am I supposed to do in the Phoenix, every shot citadels it.
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Night10194 posted:What the hell am I supposed to do in the Phoenix, every shot citadels it. Point nose or stern at enemy, weave drunkenly and lose no firepower whatsoever. Or angle sharply.
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Is the Tenryu considered a good ship for tier 3 because I just had maybe my most impressive round with any ship in it. 5 destroys, doublestrike, high caliber. AP loving rules. I don't know why pubbies hate on it so much. I was riding around citadeling same-class cruisers and then switching to torps at close range. Edit: I love the 'bubbly' design of the Chasis B Wyoming. It looks so rad.
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Sankis posted:Is the Tenryu considered a good ship for tier 3 because I just had maybe my most impressive round with any ship in it. 5 destroys, doublestrike, high caliber. Tenryu is a ship that's really good if nobody shoots at you, since you're made of paper, bamboo, and imperialist ambitions.
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MREBoy posted:
TS is down because it ran out of donations and I don't have a CC on file.. I have to wait until I get home where I can dig up the login information and go fund it out of my own pocket. I dumped money into the pot and prepaid in advance but that ran out. Sorry. The good news is everyone can finally bail once and for all to the PBKAC server since most people preferred to hang out there. demonR6 fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Night10194 posted:What the hell am I supposed to do in the Phoenix, every shot citadels it. Stay at max range and snipe the poo poo out of enemy ships.
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Since I like the Langley I figured I'd try out the Japanese side as well... how the everloving gently caress do you get ANY XP with the POS kawachi? Seriously, how is this piece of poo poo even in the game like this? I get out ranged by cruisers, I have crap armor, and my guns can't land shots anywhere near where I'm aiming. I thought the South Carolina was rough, this thing takes the drat cake.
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AP rules only when you hit citadel, except Wargaming doesn't show the penetration or armor value so it takes lots of trial and error to know what you can and cannot pen. Also HE spam is more 'reliable' and can cause fire, as well as being 'no-brainer' to use.
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