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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Internet VFW > Army Thread - These people already don't give a fuck about me

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Icon Of Sin posted:

It's like the army actually realizes that docs, nurses, and PAs can walk out and be essentially guaranteed a job as a civilian, almost no questions asked. I'm just a little surprised that they actually realized this.

they've known for a long time- the bonuses that docs gets are goddamn ridiculous, along with the rank they give

my old BC came in to the army as a O-5 for being one of the best heart surgeons on the east coast.

# ? Jul 9, 2015 23:14

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 17:26

Aranan: May 21, 2007; Release the Kraken

That's one reason I don't understand the outcry generated when people talk about having tech experienced people join the army at "appropriate ranks" based on their job experience. The army already does this with the medical field.

Then again, the army is dumb and the people in it are dumb. I am dumb.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 00:12

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Those are all people who started from the bottom because they don't have said valuable skills.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 00:17

not caring here: Feb 22, 2012; blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

That's basically it. If that guy doesn't get abused like I did, then he doesn't deserve to come it a higher rank!

Then cries about lovely health care because no doctor will join for E1 money.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 00:57

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

The direct commission folks go through their version of basic or whatever you want to call it at OCS and live in the same barracks. They mostly irritated officer candidates because we were envious of them walking around in civvies chatting on their phones, no weird "traditional" OCS way of sitting down to eat at the DFAC and most importantly they got to be normal people at the end of the day while we were doing typical OCS busy work until we went to bed.

I'm sure anyone that's been to the DFAC by IBOLC and OCS has seen or at least heard OCS candidates sit down to eat.

edit: also they mostly seemed to be 1LTs and a few captains.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 01:26

Kung Fu Fist Fuck: Aug 9, 2009

Mustang posted:

The direct commission folks go through their version of basic or whatever you want to call it at OCS and live in the same barracks. They mostly irritated officer candidates because we were envious of them walking around in civvies chatting on their phones, no weird "traditional" OCS way of sitting down to eat at the DFAC and most importantly they got to be normal people at the end of the day while we were doing typical OCS busy work until we went to bed.

I'm sure anyone that's been to the DFAC by IBOLC and OCS has seen or at least heard OCS candidates sit down to eat.

edit: also they mostly seemed to be 1LTs and a few captains.

thats because theyre more important than you scrubs

# ? Jul 10, 2015 02:01

Mike-o: Dec 25, 2004; Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed; Grimey Drawer

Mustang posted:

I'm sure anyone that's been to the DFAC by IBOLC and OCS has seen or at least heard OCS candidates sit down to eat.

Since I wasn't a gay noble, how do they sit down to eat? Like they're pretending to have a giant tree branch shoved up their rear end in a top hat?

# ? Jul 10, 2015 02:30

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

You stand at attention after putting your food on the table. Once the last person gets there the first person yells "You have 10 minutes to eat! TAKE! SEATS!" At TAKE you pull your chair back and on SEATS you sit down. For the first week or two you usually have a cadre member there telling you you did it wrong or you aren't loud enough so you might do it like 10 times before actually getting to eat. First person also keeps track of those 10 minutes.

So yeah it's dumb and gay.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 02:53

Kung Fu Fist Fuck: Aug 9, 2009

10 minutes seems excessive

# ? Jul 10, 2015 03:02

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

10 minutes seems excessive

When I was in basic, we had ten seconds to eat and we had to do it while screaming, "yes, Drill Sergeant!" Kids these days got it easy, I tell ya. :bahgawd:

:bahgawd:

# ? Jul 10, 2015 03:07

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Icon Of Sin posted:

It's like the army actually realizes that docs, nurses, and PAs can walk out and be essentially guaranteed a job as a civilian, almost no questions asked. I'm just a little surprised that they actually realized this.

Pretty much any officer who isn't a complete retard can be guaranteed a good job that pays more than they made in the military. Unfortunately, right around the time that 4 + 2 ADSO for the sweet combat arms branch obligation runs out, a lot of people have already started a family and the whole job security thing takes priority over working with competent people and not having to wear a retarded pajama suit every day.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 03:29

Kiryen: Feb 25, 2015

Mustang posted:

You stand at attention after putting your food on the table. Once the last person gets there the first person yells "You have 10 minutes to eat! TAKE! SEATS!" At TAKE you pull your chair back and on SEATS you sit down. For the first week or two you usually have a cadre member there telling you you did it wrong or you aren't loud enough so you might do it like 10 times before actually getting to eat. First person also keeps track of those 10 minutes.

So yeah it's dumb and gay.

Army philosophy in a nutshell: "Let's teach NCOs to be officers by teaching them to be privates all over again!"

# ? Jul 10, 2015 05:20

Bell_: Sep 3, 2006; Tiny Baltimore
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Pretty much what's going on at CLC at Fort Knox. Most of the Cadets I'm watching have a good head on their shoulders, but the program seems like abridged entry training that does little more for their leadership than Basic did for PVT Snuffy. Adapting to countless FRAGOs, sitting in Lightning Protection Areas watching the rain for hours and fifty buzzwords headlining obfuscated end states is what makes "gold bars at Ft Knox"(c) 2015 MG Combs"

# ? Jul 10, 2015 14:55

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Bell_ posted:

Pretty much what's going on at CLC at Fort Knox. Most of the Cadets I'm watching have a good head on their shoulders, but the program seems like abridged entry training that does little more for their leadership than Basic did for PVT Snuffy. Adapting to countless FRAGOs, sitting in Lightning Protection Areas watching the rain for hours and fifty buzzwords headlining obfuscated end states is what makes "gold bars at Ft Knox"(c) 2015 MG Combs"

The first three years of ROTC are spent learning basic training and WLC stuff (and doing lots of PT). Assuming CLC is the new name for LTC, it's really just a course for people who missed the first year/two years of ROTC, so yeah it's just an abridged entry program. LDAC is the assessment course that tests everything you learned during your first three years, so again it's really just WLC with a lot of patrolling and STX lanes.

Generally, your 4th year of ROTC is where you spend time learning some officer stuff (mostly PowerPoint and planning FTXs for the underclassmen). The rest of it is taught in BOLC and, frankly, on the job, because a medical service officer needs a vastly different body of knowledge and training than an infantry officer.

psydude fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jul 10, 2015

# ? Jul 10, 2015 15:56

Bell_: Sep 3, 2006; Tiny Baltimore
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CLC replaced LDAC, actually. Besides that, there's CIET where I understand Drill Sergeants smoke them... Along with their cadre. At least I dodged that bullet.

A handful might go to See The LT after this. It can't be less fruitful, unless they use their Cadets for menial tasks beneath the most junior of their enlisted.

# ? Jul 10, 2015 16:19

Aranan: May 21, 2007; Release the Kraken

There are menial tasks below junior enlisted?

# ? Jul 10, 2015 17:38

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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

10 minutes seems excessive

what do you do with the other 9 and a half :a2m:

:a2m:

# ? Jul 10, 2015 18:02

Bell_: Sep 3, 2006; Tiny Baltimore
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gently caress MILES gear forever.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 01:44

Kiryen: Feb 25, 2015

psydude posted:

The first three years of ROTC are spent learning basic training and WLC stuff (and doing lots of PT). Assuming CLC is the new name for LTC, it's really just a course for people who missed the first year/two years of ROTC, so yeah it's just an abridged entry program. LDAC is the assessment course that tests everything you learned during your first three years, so again it's really just WLC with a lot of patrolling and STX lanes.

Generally, your 4th year of ROTC is where you spend time learning some officer stuff (mostly PowerPoint and planning FTXs for the underclassmen). The rest of it is taught in BOLC and, frankly, on the job, because a medical service officer needs a vastly different body of knowledge and training than an infantry officer.

Are they still teaching that FRAGOs are somehow a cardinal sin and you should never do one despite the fact that most units cut a single base order for a year/an AT and just FRAGO off that endlessly?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:23

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Not sure what ROTC is like today but OCS is like a never ending stream of FRAGOs all day every day for 3 months but they also told us we will have to deal with constant FRAGOs at our units.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 02:55

Bell_: Sep 3, 2006; Tiny Baltimore
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It's FRAGO rock at cadet summer camp

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:12

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Are you constantly told how terrible you are at cadet summer camp? Because in OCS you're always told you're terrible retards until like the last 3 weeks.

edit: like being told to use initiative and think outside the box but always told were wrong and dumb when we do.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:19

Kung Fu Fist Fuck: Aug 9, 2009

Mustang posted:

Are you constantly told how terrible you are at cadet summer camp? Because in OCS you're always told you're terrible retards until like the last 3 weeks.

edit: like being told to use initiative and think outside the box but always told were wrong and dumb when we do.

well you did join the military, even after reading gip for years

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:27

Mustang: Jun 18, 2006; “We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

well you did join the military, even after reading gip for years

can't argue with that

# ? Jul 11, 2015 03:41

Woof Blitzer: Dec 29, 2012; [-]

Bell_ posted:

gently caress MILES gear forever.

You didn't zero your laser correctly.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 04:18

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
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Mustang posted:

Are you constantly told how terrible you are at cadet summer camp? Because in OCS you're always told you're terrible retards until like the last 3 weeks.

edit: like being told to use initiative and think outside the box but always told were wrong and dumb when we do.

Just wait until E-1s are saying it 24/7 about you.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 04:57

Delizin: Nov 9, 2005; It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

I have never actually used MILES gear that was turned on/working/had batteries. We would have to wear it for some exercises then yell BANG BANG at each other and throw pine cones and poo poo.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 05:10

tyler: Jun 2, 2014

.50 cal MILES gear is the worst poo poo ever. Those humvees wouldn't die.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 05:24

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Nostalgia4Murder posted:

.50 cal MILES gear is the worst poo poo ever. Those humvees wouldn't die.

B-b-but... space gun!

# ? Jul 11, 2015 05:40

tyler: Jun 2, 2014

And it's so much worse cleaning that poo poo after blanks.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 06:29

Mike-o: Dec 25, 2004; Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed; Grimey Drawer

bradley MILES gear is the worst. gently caress putting all that velcro and sensors and poo poo on the gun onto the loving brad. it never loving worked, ever.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 06:31

Carteret: Nov 10, 2012

It is hilarious that in tyool 2015 the army is still using MILES. poo poo is, and always was, hot loving garbage.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:05

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Carteret posted:

It is hilarious that in tyool 2015 the army is still using MILES. poo poo is, and always was, hot loving garbage.

Quoting the gently caress outta this

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:07

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Mike-o posted:

bradley MILES gear is the worst. gently caress putting all that velcro and sensors and poo poo on the gun onto the loving brad. it never loving worked, ever.

oh man i never thought of tank miles gear

god drat thats horrible

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:30

tyler: Jun 2, 2014

Isn't it 80's technology?

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:41

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Nostalgia4Murder posted:

Isn't it 80's technology?

MILES is old enough that my old man used it on his tanks.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:48

tyler: Jun 2, 2014

Spicy Guacamole posted:

MILES is old enough that my old man used it on his tanks.

So bowling alleys with laser tag have better technology.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:52

Naked Bear: Apr 15, 2007; Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Nostalgia4Murder posted:

So bowling alleys with laser tag have better technology.

Toys "R" Us has better technology.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 08:56

tyler: Jun 2, 2014

:911:

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 17:26

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Somehow the medic gets voluntold for the loving MILES turn-in at JRTC like a loving sacrificial lamb; never in my life had I seriously contemplated exactly how I would go about choking on my own tongue as much as I did that day.

# ? Jul 11, 2015 10:57

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