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WickedHate posted:Yes, that's the problem. You really don't get why Superman deciding he, and he alone, has the right to be judge, jury and executioner is inherently opposed to a guy who was raised as an everyman in the mid-west and believes that everyone is equal?
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Jul 10, 2015 21:45
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I think your all missing the point that the whole thing in itself is ridiculous.
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Jul 10, 2015 21:48
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Gaz-L posted:You really don't get why Superman deciding he, and he alone, has the right to be judge, jury and executioner is inherently opposed to a guy who was raised as an everyman in the mid-west and believes that everyone is equal? Nope. People are normally fine with the idea of a kind and just god kill evil people in an abstract way, why not a literal one? Superman could do it, and he should.
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Jul 10, 2015 21:54
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Just make a monthly comic where every month a different hero becomes the Spectre for a short period of time.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:01
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The Authority was right, unironically.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:10
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I'm sold on those one shots. Justice League and the New Gods together always has my attention.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:12
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So we have sequels to Convergencequote:
And Neal Adams is doing Coming of the Superman quote:Neal Adams heads up Coming of the Superman, describing it during the "New DC Universe: Superman: Are You Ready?" panel at Comic-Con International: San Diego as "all of [Jack Kirby's] characters fighting Superman."
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Jul 10, 2015 22:41
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Neat, Lois & Clark and Titans Hunt seem like they could really be incredible.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:43
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Superman:American Alien by Max Landis
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Jul 10, 2015 22:51
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I'm trying to come up with a title I want to read less than a Telos solo book and I can't do it.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:51
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Landis is an rear end in a top hat, but he's genuinely a good writer. Could be good.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:53
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Dunbar posted:I'm trying to come up with a title I want to read less than a Telos solo book and I can't do it. A solo about Jimmy Olsen's bug-lady girlfriend from Countdown?
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Jul 10, 2015 22:54
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That Superman/Lois book is 100 % whatever, and I guess there's a fan contingency out there that's geniunely dying for that kind of story with that kind of creative team. It's not coming at the expense of the actual Superman comics that are all good right now, so more power to it I guess. That Telos book is such a hilarious dead on arrival piece of poo poo. I honestly can't believe DC hasn't learned their lesson with this after books like Pandora and Lobo. There is no one on this planet who is looking forward to that and even if that book ended up somehow becoming the next Silver Surfer, it's not like anyone would ever hear about it. Titans sounds like one of those dumb brand management comics that exist only to take a franchise from Point A to Point B. In this case, bringing back the 'real' Wally West, and reforming the pre-New 52 Titans. Pass. Landis is a piece of poo poo and I hated his Adventures of Superman story, but his pitch for American Alien doesn't sound that bad? It sounds cute and harmless really.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:06
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Superman Three Musketeers Vs Jack Kirby by Mr. Batman Odyssey? Ooh baby  Semper Fudge posted:That Superman/Lois book is 100 % whatever, and I guess there's a fan contingency out there that's geniunely dying for that kind of story with that kind of creative team. Did you read Convergence: Superman? The whole thing was kinda nice, but issue 1 had Lee Weeks and holy crap, was that beautiful. 
Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 23:16
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The Superman/Lois title is basically DC having their cake and eating it too, by giving people the marriage they want while keeping the awful SM/WW relationship alive. Excited for Superman vs New Gods though.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:18
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Who will Clark have tied up so he can narrate the story to them while seductively stripping?
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Jul 10, 2015 23:21
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Batman Odyssey was completely insane and I actually think that insanity would work really well for Superman. Is there any clarification if this book is New 52 Supes or more out of continuity Supes?
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Jul 11, 2015 00:00
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That Sinestro meme cover is just horrible.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:17
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Hm, I'll probably check out Titans Hunt out of morbid curiosity.Dunbar posted:I'm trying to come up with a title I want to read less than a Telos solo book and I can't do it. Did we ever even discover who Telos is supposed to be? I seem to recall Convergence being all "ooooooooooooh what's iconic breakout character Telos' secret origin? Which wooooorld is he from? Who is he reeeaallly supposed to beeeeeeee~?" for five issues and then just flat-out never answering those questions even when it ended.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:26
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Neal talked about his Superman idea on Kevin Smiths podcast ages ago. Let's get nuts.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:26
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BrianWilly posted:Hm, I'll probably check out Titans Hunt out of morbid curiosity. Dan Abnett writing the Titans isn't the worst thing, but the pitch of the Titans being gathered together because someone is inspired by another universe's version of the Titans is like three layers of weird meta poo poo.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:31
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Oh look, Geoff Johns writing Hal Jordan as the best Lantern ever and only hope because the rest of the corps has been destroyed like a bunch of useless fucks. How loving original.
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Jul 11, 2015 01:24
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Codependent Poster posted:Oh look, Geoff Johns writing Hal Jordan as the best Lantern ever and only hope because the rest of the corps has been destroyed like a bunch of useless fucks. How loving original. You remember when he had like a concussion or something and he wrote Sinestro just constantly trolling Hal and it was great?
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Jul 11, 2015 05:20
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So this just happened. http://comicbook.com/2015/07/11/milestone-comics-to-return-to-dc/
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Jul 11, 2015 17:49
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:So we have sequels to Convergence If the Superman/ Lois Lane book is done as a "Superman and Lois are attempting to Speedrun through the DC Universe using all the knowledge they had of Post Crisis DC" I think it could be both really interesting and funny. Superman: Hey Bruce, I heard that everyone broke out of Arkham. Here's the guy who did it, he's called Bane and he hates you. I also captured all of your rogues and rebuilt Arkham. Now you have a cold, get into bed and recover, Superman's orders. Batman: *sniffle.* Okay.
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Jul 11, 2015 19:16
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Jiro posted:You remember when he had like a concussion or something and he wrote Sinestro just constantly trolling Hal and it was great? If they were on the Legion of Doom, Johns loves them as much as the heroes. Sinestro, Captain Cold, Lex Luthor, Black Manta. Johns writing Shazam and Black Adam was him trying to make up for them not being on Super Friends.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:03
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WickedHate posted:Absolutely. Sure, it'd be bad if he suddenly and for no real reason turned into an unhinged tyrant or went Incorruptible on everyone, but that's not Superman. Superman murdering people and also claiming complete power is also not Superman. You seem to be saying "it would be awesome if Superman was God-Emperor of Earth but still maintained his sense of ethics and righteousness" but you're failing to realize that the thing that keeps Superman from becoming God-Emperor of Earth are the very same sense of ethics and righteousness. There are all kinds of important ethical and philosophical reasons why you're wrong on this, but they would take ages and ages to explain. Please understand that when I say "suffice it to say, you'll grow out of it" I'm not trying to be a snarkily dismissive rear end in a top hat - almost everyone I know thought along similar lines at some point in their life and then realized they were wrong once they got a bit older and learned more poo poo via life experience. So instead of spending the next few hours explaining things like "if someone forces you to be good, then by taking away the choice they have essentially rendered 'being good' a valueless proposition" and suchlike, I'm just going to reassure you that in a few years you'll remember having written those last few posts and wince.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:34
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I think if Superman were real and truly that ethic and righteous, he wouldn't have a problem with it. That he doesn't is an arbitary limitation similar to how Batman's no kill policy wouldn't exist if not for a combination of wanting to keep the comics more childlike early on and also to keep old villians able to come back over and over.DivineCoffeeBinge posted:"if someone forces you to be good, then by taking away the choice they have essentially rendered 'being good' a valueless proposition" I know that, I'm not advocating brainwashing.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:38
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WickedHate posted:I think if Superman were real and truly that ethic and righteous, he wouldn't have a problem with it. That he doesn't is an arbitary limitation similar to how Batman's no kill policy wouldn't exist if not for a combination of wanting to keep the comics more childlike early on and also to keep old villians able to come back over and over. You are advocating following my rules or I will kill you
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Jul 11, 2015 20:40
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Codependent Poster posted:Oh look, Geoff Johns writing Hal Jordan as the best Lantern ever and only hope because the rest of the corps has been destroyed like a bunch of useless fucks. How loving original. He's also turning Barry Allen into the Black Racer, something that he's totally never done before and totally isn't a retread of his own crappy story.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:41
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Superman murdering people and also claiming complete power is also not Superman. You seem to be saying "it would be awesome if Superman was God-Emperor of Earth but still maintained his sense of ethics and righteousness" but you're failing to realize that the thing that keeps Superman from becoming God-Emperor of Earth are the very same sense of ethics and righteousness. Yes, these are the posts she's going to wince about in a few years, and not the chaos magic stuff.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:41
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bobkatt013 posted:You are advocating following my rules or I will kill you Yeah, but eventually people will learn why this must be and how being good, as well as keeping you alive and comfortable, is it's own reward.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:47
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Multiversity Sequel and new Batman Black & White
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Jul 11, 2015 20:51
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Yeaaaaaaaaaah! This has got to be the best news all month.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:52
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Two questions for you guys: B&N is having a buy two get one free sale on DC trades. I'm pretty out of the loop on DC. What are some trades I absolutely should get that came out in the last couple years? Also can someone explain to me all this robot Batman business?
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Jul 11, 2015 21:27
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Unmature posted:Two questions for you guys: And as for Robot Batman - it's Jim Gordon. Bruce is faking his death after the events of Endgame, so everyone believes Batman is dead. The city decides Batman is needed as a symbol, but this time will be allied with the GCPD and Gordon gets picked for the job based on reliability. It's pretty fun because Gordon himself doesn't believe he's cut out for it.
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Jul 11, 2015 23:10
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I forgot all about Multiversity, everyone was so excited by it and kept talking about it at the start but then it all went quiet. Was the ending really bad or something?
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Jul 11, 2015 23:14
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I liked it. 
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Jul 11, 2015 23:18
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Starsnostars posted:I forgot all about Multiversity, everyone was so excited by it and kept talking about it at the start but then it all went quiet. Was the ending really bad or something? I think people were expecting it to be more of a thing than it really was. In the end, it was a fairly straightforward storyline resolved in two issues, with seven spin-off one-shots in the middle. I really liked all of the issues, but there wasn't really much time to develop characters or get readers emotionally involved with the stakes, so it just doesn't feel like a big-deal story.
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Multiversity I think is just about exploring different corners of DC and enjoying them for what they are. I wasn't into it for the longer storyline, but I never got the feeling I had to be.
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