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savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some dark, gritty thriller moves? Hopefully some with some philosophy in it. Or just a really intelligent one.

Think along the lines of True Detective, Prisoners, Zodiac, etc.

Watch the Red Riding movies. It doesn't get much darker or grittier, and they're a great adaption of some of the best crime fiction you can read.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some dark, gritty thriller moves? Hopefully some with some philosophy in it. Or just a really intelligent one.

Think along the lines of True Detective, Prisoners, Zodiac, etc.

The Long Goodbye
Grifters
Kill List
Running Scared

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


So I just watched Exam and Would You Rather on netflix, and I really enjoyed them. What are some more movies that are like that? I'd prefer not to have anything to gore-porny like Saw, I mostly just like the mindgames/mindfuck elements of the films.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Sociopastry posted:

So I just watched Exam and Would You Rather on netflix, and I really enjoyed them. What are some more movies that are like that? I'd prefer not to have anything to gore-porny like Saw, I mostly just like the mindgames/mindfuck elements of the films.

After I watched Exam, I followed it with a movie called The Experiment (based on the infamous Stanford Prison Experiment) with Forrest Whitaker, and I think Adrian Brody. You might like that one too.

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.
Is it anything like The Game?

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

cthulusnewzulubbq posted:

Is it anything like The Game?

The Game (by Fincher, I'm assuming) is a great, tense, fun, almost Hitchcockian-feeling suspense thriller. The Experiment is a lot smaller movie overall: mostly set in a single, claustrophobic setting with the constant threat of brutal violence throughout (and some that actually happens), but no big Hollywood action sequences.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

The Long Goodbye and Kiss Me Deadly are my two go to "Noir, with even more of an edge" movies. Neither of them are quite as shocking, but Kiss Me Deadly comes pretty close.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

Seconding The Long Goodbye. I first saw it recently (after it was referenced heavily in a Hawkeye comic), but I've always been a Raymond Chandler fan, and I fell in love with the movie. It would be a great triple-feature with Inherent Vice and The Big Lebowski, two films that owe it a great debt.

Also, watch The Two Jakes (the actual sequel to Chinatown, which isn't bad, and it has Tom Waits in it), and L.A. Confidential, one of my favorite movies of all time, based on a gripping, sprawling, complex novel by my favorite mystery writer, James Ellroy.

The Black Dahlia is also based on an Ellroy novel, but the movie isn't nearly as good as any of these others. But if you're in the mood for neo-noir and have exhausted your other options, it may scratch an itch.

The second season of True Detective, airing now on HBO, is set in the present day, but it seems to be going over some similar themes to Chinatown.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
The Black Dahlia is not good at all, it has hints of potential quality, but they gently caress it up so immensely. Especially compared to LA Confidential, which I will second the recommendation to that Chinatown fan.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Thanks for the recommendations, I'm gonna watch The Long Goodbye. My brother's actually been telling me to watch some Robert Altman movies and this looks like a good one. I've seen LA Confidential a few times and I'm a big fan.

HP Hovercraft
Jan 1, 2006

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?
Cutter's Way

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

"Zodiac," which is like "Chinatown" meets "All the president's men." It's phenomenal.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Transistor Rhythm posted:

"Zodiac," which is like "Chinatown" meets "All the president's men." It's phenomenal.

It is that good. Zodiac is my favorite Fincher film, even more than Fight Club.

If you want to get sad, realize that Fincher and Ellroy were developing a series for HBO, but it recently fell through.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

For a noir feel but in a somewhat different setting, Memento and Dark City. For the latter, definitely watch the director's cut and if that's not available, mute the audio until you see Kiefer Sutherland look at his pocket watch, because the movie idiotically spoils a major plot point in a voice over

E: Christopher Nolan's first movie, Following, might also be a good fit.

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

If you want to get sad, realize that Fincher and Ellroy were developing a series for HBO, but it recently fell through.

I......did not know that. I need a moment.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa

Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

If you haven't seen it, The Conversation came out in 1974, was directed by Francis Ford Coppola, and stars Gene Hackman as an introverted surveillance expert who's troubled by the potential fallout of a meeting he's hired to record for a powerful businessman. Also, it's great, and should make for an interesting comparison / contrast to Chinatown (which came out the same year).

Flaky
Feb 14, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
80s American films with great soundtrack and fashion? or modern interpretations thereof? Think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyM42MvuXo though I have seen Breakin'

Flaky fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jul 8, 2015

CornbeefAndCabbage
Feb 20, 2006
Spin round' the carousel
Looking for movies similar to Pontypool. Movies with interesting/unique plot elements, a good amount of humor, and horror that comes from off screen descriptions rather than shown directly. Also, no jump scares. I loving hate jump scares.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Slither is a pretty fun horror/comedy, but it's pretty explicit in what it shows, so I don't know how well it fits what you want.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I recently read about films like The Gods Are Crazy, which are exploitative in that they depict African/non-Western cultures as primitive and use it for comedy material or shock value. Mondo films belong in a similar genre -- except they are presented as documentaries or pseudo-documentaries.

What are some films that belong in these genres BUT subvert their conventions?Ideally something funny or amusing that parodies the exploitative films.

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.

CornbeefAndCabbage posted:

Looking for movies similar to Pontypool. Movies with interesting/unique plot elements, a good amount of humor, and horror that comes from off screen descriptions rather than shown directly. Also, no jump scares. I loving hate jump scares.

I've never seen that film but your description seems to fit Motel Hell.

CornbeefAndCabbage
Feb 20, 2006
Spin round' the carousel
Neither one of those is really what I'm looking for. Pontypool is basically a bottle movie that all takes place in the recording studio of a small town radio news DJ. The horror comes out of call-in descriptions of what's happening and is, for me, one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. The humor comes out of the DJ being a snarky rear end in a top hat. Both suggestions so far seem to be kind of campy B-movie horror. I've seen Slither, didn't care for it. Although it has the distinction of being the only movie I've ever seen where the main character has my last name, so that was exciting for me I guess.

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.
Hmm. Shadow of the Vampire is alternately creepy and darkly funny. Perhaps something like that.

CornbeefAndCabbage
Feb 20, 2006
Spin round' the carousel
I appreciate the suggestions but you should really watch the movie, because I'm looking for movies with a similar feel to pontypool. It's on netflix.

CornbeefAndCabbage fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jul 11, 2015

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Need more films like the Station Agent, eg: mundane but touching. Something in a fairly static location featuring likable characters. I've seen Baghdad Cafe.

CornbeefAndCabbage
Feb 20, 2006
Spin round' the carousel
What I enjoyed about Pontypool was that the filmmakers created an atmosphere of unease second-hand disclosure. The viewer only had the information that the main characters did, and when more information was revealed, the film reimagined a horror trope in a way that felt fresh (even if they were nodding to the novel Snow Crash in the process). The characteristics of this film that may have created this atmosphere include:

1. Enclosure – the characters spend almost the entire film confined together. This limited their ability to access information from outside, and like a good bottle episode of a TV show, the plot was mostly character driven.

2. Snappy dialogue – this goes hand-in-hand with “good characters,” which I recognize is vague, but a bottle setup can only really work if the writers give the few characters well rounded personalities.

3. Lower budget? Canadian? – While there are plenty of lower budget films that are dreadful, it felt like the film wasn’t trying to rely heavily on campiness or storylines that are tried and true horror classics. Whether this is because the film is independent, because it is Canadian, or because it is independent and Canadian, I’m not sure.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa

Chas McGill posted:

Need more films like the Station Agent, eg: mundane but touching. Something in a fairly static location featuring likable characters. I've seen Baghdad Cafe.

Big Night, Junebug and Trees Lounge come to mind.

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Looking for movies like The Man from Earth. Dialogue heavy, discussing an interesting topic and approaching it from different angles.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

bowser posted:

Looking for movies like The Man from Earth. Dialogue heavy, discussing an interesting topic and approaching it from different angles.

Sunset Limited, My Dinner with Andre (I'll leave more here as I remember them)

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

CornbeefAndCabbage posted:

Looking for movies similar to Pontypool. Movies with interesting/unique plot elements, a good amount of humor, and horror that comes from off screen descriptions rather than shown directly. Also, no jump scares. I loving hate jump scares.

Maybe Monsters. It's not really horror per se, but I'm not really sure what it is. The titular monsters are more talked about than they are seen but they have a looming presence throughout the movie. Not much humor that I can remember though.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Vegetable posted:

I recently read about films like The Gods Are Crazy, which are exploitative in that they depict African/non-Western cultures as primitive and use it for comedy material or shock value. Mondo films belong in a similar genre -- except they are presented as documentaries or pseudo-documentaries.

What are some films that belong in these genres BUT subvert their conventions?Ideally something funny or amusing that parodies the exploitative films.

Assuming you're talking about The Gods Must Be Crazy and you haven't actually seen the movie yourself I kinda feel that it's what you're talking about exactly. Yes the African villager's are depicted as primitive, but it's a harmonious society until western capitalism is introduced via a coca-cola bottle.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

Vegetable posted:

I recently read about films like The Gods Are Crazy, which are exploitative in that they depict African/non-Western cultures as primitive and use it for comedy material or shock value. Mondo films belong in a similar genre -- except they are presented as documentaries or pseudo-documentaries.

What are some films that belong in these genres BUT subvert their conventions?Ideally something funny or amusing that parodies the exploitative films.

check out the earlier movie by the God must be Crazy director called Animals Are Beautiful People.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
Some of my favorite movies include Heat, Ronin, Inside Man, and Sneakers, and I'm looking for more tactical, perhaps gritty, dramas to fill out my playlist.

It seems there are a number of movies coming out which may fit the bill, but there have been some exceptional stinkers. Has anyone recently come across high-quality films (not necessarily English language) that may fit the bill?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

FreshFeesh posted:

Some of my favorite movies include Heat, Ronin, Inside Man, and Sneakers, and I'm looking for more tactical, perhaps gritty, dramas to fill out my playlist.

It seems there are a number of movies coming out which may fit the bill, but there have been some exceptional stinkers. Has anyone recently come across high-quality films (not necessarily English language) that may fit the bill?

You'd probably like Drug War.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

FreshFeesh posted:

Some of my favorite movies include Heat, Ronin, Inside Man, and Sneakers, and I'm looking for more tactical, perhaps gritty, dramas to fill out my playlist.

It seems there are a number of movies coming out which may fit the bill, but there have been some exceptional stinkers. Has anyone recently come across high-quality films (not necessarily English language) that may fit the bill?

Way of the Gun.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

FreshFeesh posted:

Some of my favorite movies include Heat, Ronin, Inside Man, and Sneakers, and I'm looking for more tactical, perhaps gritty, dramas to fill out my playlist.

It seems there are a number of movies coming out which may fit the bill, but there have been some exceptional stinkers. Has anyone recently come across high-quality films (not necessarily English language) that may fit the bill?

The Bank Job and The Town are both kinda similar to Heat.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely check them out

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



I didn't see it so I don't know how good it is but you might like The Drop.

And you'll love Gone Baby Gone

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I liked The Drop but it was much lower key than any of those movies.

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