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The Tantalus crew really have a whole lot of personality to 'em. They're great.
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Magic Sword is obviously enough unavailable if Steiner or Vivi are knocked out, but it's also unavailable if Vivi is Silenced. It's actually pretty cool in that it ignores Protect, although very few enemies will cast it. The Zidane v. Steiner confrontation is kinda funny if you name the latter Rusty.
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Jul 11, 2015 16:41
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Xander77 posted:... Fixed, thanks.
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Jul 11, 2015 16:42
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Steiner was one of my favorite characters in this game. Sure, he's a massive doofus, but he's well-intentioned and is trying to do what he thinks is right. Plus, that whole hitting like an out of control truck thing. He was a constant in my party.
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Jul 11, 2015 17:06
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Mega64 posted:Seriously why does this ship have so many Ethers. It's a flying party ship run by a band of bro 
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Jul 11, 2015 17:53
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Magic Sword is incredible in this game, but you have to look at the damage formula to see exactly how. The formula is basically (Weapon Attack - Defense) * Strength * Multipliers. Magic Sword adds a fixed amount to the Attack value depending on the spell, so it's actually like attacking with a better weapon. The first level elemental spells add 5 attack, and Steiner starts with 24 strength, so right off the bat Magic Sword is adding 120 damage before multipliers. On top of that, it ignores protect, and it doesn't break sleep. And the best part is that despite seeming like a combo attack, it doesn't cost Vivi a turn. I'm pretty sure it also ignores the penalty to attacking from the back row. Magic Sword is what turns Steiner and Vivi into premiere shitkickers.
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Jul 11, 2015 18:30
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Does Magic Sword have status effects like the Mystic Knight's ability, or is it just damage?
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Jul 11, 2015 19:11
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Pure damage. Status effects aren't that great in this game, though.
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Jul 11, 2015 19:13
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steiner + vivi 4 lyfe
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Jul 11, 2015 19:16
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Fister Roboto posted:Pure damage. Status effects aren't that great in this game, though. I don't know about that. There are plenty of strong enemies and bosses that Blind helps against. It isn't going to completely neuter them, but the difference in overall damage is noticeable.
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Jul 11, 2015 19:39
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I must have played this game when I was really, REALLY stupid, because I don't think I ever caught on to the whole ability system. Maybe I did, though. It has been a long time. OP, how are you recording this? I'm curious about your process. I think I have FFIX on my PS3, and I was going to post some screenshots of my progress if I ever get around to booting it up.
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Jul 11, 2015 19:50
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zfleeman posted:I must have played this game when I was really, REALLY stupid, because I don't think I ever caught on to the whole ability system. Maybe I did, though. It has been a long time. FRAPS on ePSXe. There's no real reliable way to do in-emulator recording of PS1 games besides maybe PSXjin, which has its own problems once you let a video go above 2GB. Recording PS1 footage is kind of a pain in the rear end.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:13
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Krumbsthumbs posted:I don't know about that. There are plenty of strong enemies and bosses that Blind helps against. It isn't going to completely neuter them, but the difference in overall damage is noticeable. The problem with status effects is that most of them wear off after a short time. Blind doesn't, though, so it is pretty useful.
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Jul 11, 2015 20:31
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As much as I love this game, I really feel like this is one of the weakest moments, especially if you've played through before. After a fun, exciting intro, the plot more or less stalls until you get to the first town. Also hey Mega, you gonna show off the secret/easter egg/whatever with saving on the map?
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Jul 11, 2015 22:26
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Steiner and Vivi make such a great team. The Tantalus crew are fun as well, you can really feel the camaraderie even whilst they're beating the crap out of each other or talking poo poo to each other. It's a shame Magic Sword uses Steiner's low MP rather than Vivi's larger pool, it'd be even better if that were the case.
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Jul 11, 2015 22:34
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Brony Hunter posted:Steiner and Vivi make such a great team. The Tantalus crew are fun as well, you can really feel the camaraderie even whilst they're beating the crap out of each other or talking poo poo to each other. Magic Sword is a boss killer or really annoying enemy killer. You get enough consumables in this game to use Ethers etc on Steiner when you need them. He's already incredibly powerful, so he doesn't need a huge boost. Count me in on for the group that's started playing this again because of the LP. I tried to get the Moonstone several times just for the hell of it, but I was happy to get 96 and call it a day.
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Jul 11, 2015 22:55
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Last time I played I spent way too long getting 100 nobles. Later when I picked up Theatrhythm Curtain Call guess which song I paid money for and spent way too long SSS-ranking
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Jul 11, 2015 23:10
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Yeah, this game practically throws ethers at you left and right. There's pretty much no reason to worry about your MP.
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Jul 11, 2015 23:12
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Fister Roboto posted:Yeah, this game practically throws ethers at you left and right. There's pretty much no reason to worry about your MP. But what if I need them later?! 
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Jul 11, 2015 23:14
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Brony Hunter posted:But what if I need them later?! I always save them up too. And then I get Chakra, which is effectively free MP, so I sell most of them.
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Jul 11, 2015 23:19
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I never did any ether farming and by the end of the game I was having to sell them because I kept hitting 99 ethers. Use your ethers.
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Jul 11, 2015 23:58
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:As much as I love this game, I really feel like this is one of the weakest moments, especially if you've played through before. After a fun, exciting intro, the plot more or less stalls until you get to the first town.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:03
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:As much as I love this game, I really feel like this is one of the weakest moments, especially if you've played through before. After a fun, exciting intro, the plot more or less stalls until you get to the first town. The entire Evil Forest sequence is awesome, though.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:09
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I just really like spooky forests in video games and there can never be too many of them.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:26
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ultrafilter posted:Does Magic Sword have status effects like the Mystic Knight's ability, or is it just damage? Sword Magic doesn't get Vivi's status spells, and Bio Sword is bugged to never poison.
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Jul 12, 2015 00:54
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There's finally a Let's Play of the best Final Fantasy?  Honestly, I'd rather this game get a faithful remake than VII. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Sword Magic doesn't get Vivi's status spells, and Bio Sword is bugged to never poison. Just so long as they fix things like this and the weird mistranslated names some characters have.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:00
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Brony Hunter posted:Steiner and Vivi make such a great team. The Tantalus crew are fun as well, you can really feel the camaraderie even whilst they're beating the crap out of each other or talking poo poo to each other. Magic Sword is already pretty OP. If it used Vivi's MP, it'd be even more completely insane.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:The entire Evil Forest sequence is awesome, though. It's past this where the game hits it's first low note for me until past the town. It's very low-key compared to the excitement and action of the intro and this forest.
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Jul 12, 2015 01:39
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Also hey Mega, you gonna show off the secret/easter egg/whatever with saving on the map? Not sure what you mean unless it's the save moogle yelling at you for constantly bothering him or something.
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Jul 12, 2015 03:23
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There's one specific part in this game that you can chug through Ethers if you don't feel like playing 'tactically', and I normally make sure Steiner's there for that part and just have him use basic attacks so I don't have to rely on it (and also because it's almost guaranteed you'll have Vivi in that section).
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Jul 12, 2015 04:00
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Mega64 posted:Not sure what you mean unless it's the save moogle yelling at you for constantly bothering him or something. I believe he's talking about -exactly- that. And I love it when you do it too much. You have to -actively- be doing it too.
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re: trance talk I think it makes perfect sense that Trance wears off after a battle, because it's "induced by a surge of emotion". it wouldn't make quite as much narrative sense if you could just keep it and use it whenever. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean you should like how that system plays out in battles, but I think it's a nice touch to try and connect the narrative effects to the battle system
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morallyobjected posted:Trance Oh, it does make narrative sense, I don't think anybody's questioning that. But it's a game mechanic that's almost completely beyond player's control, so except in battles like the one we've seen, where it's activated automatically, it's just... there. Next time, it will probably activate in a random battle that would end in two turns anyway. I wonder if it would be better if some enemies or bosses had a way of taunting or otherwise upsetting player characters in battle. We've seen Steiner run away from oglops, just make oglop-based attacks and let them charge his Trance at a triple rate. 
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It could still be tweaked and not lose the narrative sense. If you triggered trance and never used it (i.e 60-80% of the time trance triggers), instead of completely dumping the gauge, maybe just cut it by half. Heck, cut the unused portion in half since I don't think I ever used the whole gauge. A surge of emotion isn't gone after 1-5 minutes, you're adrenaline is still pumping well after that. Or maybe something like the stagger mechanic in XIII. Large spikes fill the trance gauge and settle back down to a default number (1% per 1000 damage or 20% of Max HP?) In the narrative sense, I'm pretty sure the surge of emotion would come back 10 times stronger if Zidane tranced on a goblin right before Steiner eviscerated him and then came back around to fight a boss.
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Idea: have Zidane's trance be fueled by impatience. Charge it a bit every time Steal fails. Pros: would have the player and the protagonist completely on the same note. Cons: Trance as-is doesn't actually help with stealing.
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I'm thinking they very specifically did not want to add limit breaks to the game, since it would break with the very traditional gameplay (see boss HP). But since limit breaks were a big part of pre-release press coverage they probably wanted some kind of wizz-bang limit break thing to talk about so they put something in that was the barest possible facsimile with the most minimal impact on gameplay.
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Jul 12, 2015 14:35
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I think the worst part about limits is that Garnet's is useless most of the time. It does literally nothing until about halfway through disc 2, and then most of disc 3 Garnet is mostly dead weight anyway.
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Jul 12, 2015 14:38
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Dastardly posted:I've spent way too much time thinking about what the voice cast would be like if IX had voices. Sadly Cristopher Lee is no longer of this world. I just started reading this LP and I'm posting from a few pages back right now but if they ever gave IX a full cast Steiner should be voiced by Patrick Warburton and nobody else
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Steiner, a thief with the theater troupe Steiner, conspires with his allies Steiner, Steiner, Steiner, and Steiner to kidnap Princess Steiner. Meanwhile, a young black mage named Steiner collides with a rat kid named Steiner and the two work together to sneak into the castle to see the play, I Want To Be Your Steiner. FFIX definitive edition.
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kalonZombie posted:I think the worst part about limits is that Garnet's is useless most of the time. It does literally nothing until about halfway through disc 2, and then most of disc 3 Garnet is mostly dead weight anyway. It does something. Her butt has no effect on the gameplay though.
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