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duckfarts posted:source I've seen a post by this chap in E/N - it's all like this. So he's either hosed in the head, or it's a really persistent gimmick. Reminds me a bit of the timecube guy.
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Oh, so it's not a puzzle that everyone has figured out a long time before me?  
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Otterman, it's worth noting that all the things you are doing to make the cat leave you alone are actually friendly gestures to cats. They do not like direct eye contact, or big gestures, so avoiding these things is telling the cat you like him. It's also worth noting that everything the cat is doing to you is also meant as a friendly gesture. A toy may be sufficient, I hope it works.
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Please do not be hostile; I am not a Miscreant; I am a Person who is concerned about the Persistent Attentions of a Cat; I can tolerate the presence of the Cat but I am not comfortable with it; I do not want this Friendship to be compromised due to the Persistent Attentions of a Cat that will not leave me alone despite my repeated attempts to discourage its Approaches; however I do not want to antagonise the Cat; I do not want to harm it or to provoke a Violent Attack; I want a civil reconciliation; and a polite relationship.
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Huntersoninski posted:Otterman, it's worth noting that all the things you are doing to make the cat leave you alone are actually friendly gestures to cats. They do not like direct eye contact, or big gestures, so avoiding these things is telling the cat you like him. It's also worth noting that everything the cat is doing to you is also meant as a friendly gesture.
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Angrymog posted:I've seen a post by this chap in E/N - it's all like this. So he's either hosed in the head, or it's a really persistent gimmick. Reminds me a bit of the timecube guy. hoooly poo poo, a fresh one Ok, helpful advice: you could try looking for a repellent spray you can spray on your shoes. Don't get the one that looks like it came out of the seventies and doubles as weed killer; that thing is also good for repelling people. Look for one that's more citrus or peppermint scented; it should be pleasant enough while helping keep the cat's advances at bay without cruelty.
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Regarding the claw/declaw debate: When I was younger, all of my cats were declawed. Parent's choice, not mine. I remember kittens comming back home without their claws on the first day. As soon as the drugs would be wearing off, the cats would be up and about doing their things and seemed none the wizer. I do not believe in this idea that it is cruel, inhumane and whatnot. If done early enough in their life, I am 100% sure they don't care. They have to be young tho. Declawing a cat that is older is most likely to end up hurting him due to all the weight on their paws while it heals. That being said, both my current cats have all of their claws because I tend to let them go outside. I want them to be able to fend off any attackers outside. The lovely thing about it, is they are destroying to much of my furniture. They have ample place to do their claws, scratpost, cartboard box, stuff hanging from doors. But when we're not home, they go nuts for furniture.
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Holy crap. I was already under the weather, then I came into the petstore next door and it's completely empty. There's not just no people -- furniture and the thin partitions they had for several other shops are all gone. And we had gotten to be almost friends with the shopkeepers, so I was feeling kind of betrayed, and also I had no idea where my cat's next meal would be coming from. Fortunately I remembered about another petstore that opened recently almost next door but in the opposite direction, where I found out that there's just renovation going on at the old place.  I was also told that you're not supposed to change food brands because due to differences in preparation your cat is going to die. Confirm/deny? Also, if you're going to change brands, it's better to select one that is made nearest geographically to the old brand.
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Well I mean it can upset a cat's stomach if you switch food too quickly. I've never heard the geography thing. Just introduce the new food slowly over a week or so, adding a bit to its current food and changing the ratio gradually.
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Also cats are notorious for just outright refusing food that isn't their usual.
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I'm not actually changing the brand since I managed to locate the old one in the new store somehow. But my cat has been pretty flexible with respect to food, at least if you only take dry into account.
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Angrymog posted:Also cats are notorious for just outright refusing food that isn't their usual. They get a lot less picky after a couple days without any other choices, though. I've been through that routine many times. Changing brands or formulations can upset their digestion for a bit, but generally not more than a couple days. It's not really a problem if you don't make a habit of it.
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Deteriorata posted:They get a lot less picky after a couple days without any other choices, though. I've been through that routine many times.
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If there are any flat kitty owners in this thread, what do you use to clean their faces? I use the moisturized tissues for babies, but a friend of mine argued that they can be harmful to the cat. Or do you prefer a Q-tip? Shtoopsee doesn't like having her face cleaned but it has to be done 
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Are age designations on food in fact, er, incorrect? The different shopkeeper also told me that I should continue getting the 1-6 variety, even though my cat is officially 7, because cats now live for 20 years, so the cat year has to be recalibrated, or something. Finally for today, my cat's just eaten a treat together with the string which was tied onto it. The string is pretty harmless, I think -- it's thick and soft, plus she's only eaten a small bit -- but I was quite surprised to find the end of the string missing. For some reason I didn't think about my cat as one for inedible things.
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As far as I know age on food only matters for kittens and maybe seniors. As for string, how long was it? Eating string can actually be pretty dangerous for cats. Keep an eye on him and if you notice any of behavior take him to the vet right away (if it's long enough to tangle). Keep string from your cat, it is a real threat to their health.
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Therion posted:If there are any flat kitty owners in this thread, what do you use to clean their faces? I use the moisturized tissues for babies, but a friend of mine argued that they can be harmful to the cat. Or do you prefer a Q-tip? Shtoopsee doesn't like having her face cleaned but it has to be done Not a flat kitty, but when one of mine kept getting a very runny nose, I just used tissue dampened with warm water. No chemicals, no sticklike objects near the sensitive nose and eyes of a potentially panicky cat.
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I am perplexed by the Cat and its Behaviours; it rubs its Muzzle Region against my lower leg [Knee to Ankle]; it walks in such a way that its Tail coils around my Limb before its departure; it buries its Excrements; it rolls on the Floor thus exposing its Stomach; it makes a variety of Sounds; chief amongst them a Round Sound ("Mow"); a Shrill Sound ("Miu"); a Guttural Sound ("Mur"); it licks its Self; it sits with Splayed Legs; I understand that the Cat is attempting to communicate via these Behaviours but I am unsure as to the direction of its Communications; I find it inscrutable. I would like to understand the Cat better; however I fear the Cat; I do not want to interact with the Cat; Cats have a tendency to bite or scratch with out Provocation; their Retractable Talons have a significant population of Bacteria resulting in a high Infection Risk; I do not want an Infection. In addition the Cat lacks facial animation; it only stares with Round Eyes; its Ears swivel in a directionless manner; it rarely opens its Mouth except to Vocalise.
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Enhydra lutris posted:I am perplexed by the Cat and its Behaviours; it rubs its Muzzle Region against my lower leg [Knee to Ankle]; it walks in such a way that its Tail coils around my Limb before its departure; it buries its Excrements; it rolls on the Floor thus exposing its Stomach; it makes a variety of Sounds; chief amongst them a Round Sound ("Mow"); a Shrill Sound ("Miu"); a Guttural Sound ("Mur"); it licks its Self; it sits with Splayed Legs; I understand that the Cat is attempting to communicate via these Behaviours but I am unsure as to the direction of its Communications; I find it inscrutable. I would like to understand the Cat better; however I fear the Cat; I do not want to interact with the Cat; Cats have a tendency to bite or scratch with out Provocation; their Retractable Talons have a significant population of Bacteria resulting in a high Infection Risk; I do not want an Infection. In addition the Cat lacks facial animation; it only stares with Round Eyes; its Ears swivel in a directionless manner; it rarely opens its Mouth except to Vocalise. Otter guy, it makes me so happy to see your posts. The cat is trying to communicate that it likes you! The only unprovoked violence that might occur is if you try to rub its tummy when it's on its back (it's a sign of trust, but they generally don't want rubs when they do it), but I don't think you'll do that anyway. Try putting your hand out and letting the cat sniff it. That will be a very scary step for you, but it sounds like this cat is pretty chill and maybe it'll help you calm down. You might even get a kitty kiss! Their tongues feel like sandpaper and it is a very interesting feeling.
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Cat Tongues also carry a high population of Bacteria; Cats are unhygienic Creatures; they are renowned as Clean because they lick their selves but this is a Fish Wife Tale; licking their selves does not make them Clean; it only makes them Tidy [neat in Appearance]; just as I would not be considered Clean if I licked my self due to my Saliva having a high population of Bacteria; I am not a Dirty Man but Human Saliva is a Foul Substance; the same is true for Cat Saliva; in addition Cats contract Bacteria and Micro Organisms from Verminous Prey; I fear the licking of the Cat. I will allow the Cat to sniff me; I will close my Eyes and remain very still so that it does not identify me as a Threat or a Prey Creature; but if it attempts to lick me I will depart from the Situation; I avoid Bacteria if it is possible for me to do so; I do not want to contract a Disease; I value the Integrity of my Body and its Health Systems.
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Enhydra lutris posted:I am perplexed by the Cat and its Behaviours; it rubs its Muzzle Region against my lower leg [Knee to Ankle]; it walks in such a way that its Tail coils around my Limb before its departure; it rolls on the Floor thus exposing its Stomach These all mean "Hi I think you're cool" Enhydra lutris posted:Cats have a tendency to bite or scratch with out Provocation; This kitty sounds like it really likes you, so I doubt it's going to just up and bite you for no reason, especially since you don't want to touch it. If you are still worried, if the cat has a very swishy tail, avoid, that can mean it's grumpy. If the cat has its tail straight up in the air, that is another sign of happiness. If it's still playing with your shoelaces and you don't like it, try making a little yelp noise and then moving away. To the kitty it means "Ouch, you're playing too hard!" and if it's a polite kitty it will stop.
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I am afraid to yelp in the presence of the Cat; it may associate quick shrill Sounds with Small Rodents (its Natural Prey Creatures); thus identifying me as a Small Rodent; and a Foe.
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Enhydra lutris posted:Cat Tongues also carry a high population of Bacteria; Cats are unhygienic Creatures; they are renowned as Clean because they lick their selves but this is a Fish Wife Tale; licking their selves does not make them Clean; it only makes them Tidy [neat in Appearance]; just as I would not be considered Clean if I licked my self due to my Saliva having a high population of Bacteria; I am not a Dirty Man but Human Saliva is a Foul Substance; the same is true for Cat Saliva; in addition Cats contract Bacteria and Micro Organisms from Verminous Prey; I fear the licking of the Cat. kay... Enhydra lutris posted:I will allow the Cat to sniff me; I will close my Eyes and remain very still so that it does not identify me as a Threat or a Prey Creature; but if it attempts to lick me I will depart from the Situation; I avoid Bacteria if it is possible for me to do so; I do not want to contract a Disease; I value the Integrity of my Body and its Health Systems. There's your key. You will never be a "prey creature." An average human is 20x the size of an average cat. Anyway, sitting still is a way of inviting it in. If the cat is getting in your face, just push it away. e. Enhydra lutris posted:I am afraid to yelp in the presence of the Cat; it may associate quick shrill Sounds with Small Rodents (its Natural Prey Creatures); thus identifying me as a Small Rodent; and a Foe. Ok this is a troll.
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I understand that the Cat prefers it when I am motion less; this fosters an Approach. I can assume that the Opposite Is True; namely that the Cat will be repelled by Swift Motions and Broad Gesticulations; if I move in an Energetic Manner the Cat will not choose to Approach; and I will be left in Peace. Is this Correct? Thank You for providing Helpful Advice regarding the Cat; its Behaviours; its Communications; Safe Handling; the Benevolent Repulsion of the Cat; it is rare for me to receive Helpful Advice on these Awful Forums; the Posters in this Thread are Kind and Of Integrity; and Knowledgeable. G-d Bless.
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I am not a Troll; I dislike Trolls; these Malicious Individuals deliberately pervert the direction of Forum Threads; they interrupt the flow of Communications; and transfer of useful facts. I would not interrupt the transfer of useful facts; I enjoy useful facts; such as those that I have received from this Thread; I have no Viciousness in my Soul such as that possessed by Trolls; they are Grim and Hateful People; in fact I am frequently a target of Trolls; they attack me with out Mercy.
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To be clear, the cat pays rent by killing spiders and frogs, that is his job. Would it help if you thought of the cat as your personal bodyguard, and his closeness a want to protect you from the spiders? Are you scared of spiders or cats more?
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CommonShore posted:Ok this is a troll. Yep. Seen him doing exactly the same stunt in E/N and BFC.
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Enhydra lutris posted:I am afraid to yelp in the presence of the Cat; it may associate quick shrill Sounds with Small Rodents (its Natural Prey Creatures); thus identifying me as a Small Rodent; and a Foe. HE'S HERE, I FEEL SO BLESSED
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CommonShore posted:Ok this is a troll.
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Otterman, I think you should try staring directly at the cat. If that doesn't put it off, a short sharp hissing noise may work. Alternatively, if you have access to some sort of small dog, the presence of the dog may deter the cat from wanting to touch you.
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I am not comfortable in the presence of Spiders; however Spiders are Native Creatures; Frogs are also Native Creatures; I do not want the Cat to kill these Creatures; they are a vital component of the Ecosystem; they are both Predators of flying and crawling Insects; with out the Spiders and the Frogs the flying and crawling Insects will proliferate; resulting in an Infestation of the Premises; furthermore Spiders and Frogs are an important Food Source for more advanced Creatures such as Birds; Bats; Snakes; Other; removing Spiders and Frogs has Repercussions [Effects] both up and down the Food Chain; consequently it is unwise to introduce a new Predator in to a Delicate Biome. I am not afraid of Frogs; they are Benign Creatures; I would rather be approached by a Frog than by a Cat. I do not own a Small Dog; I do own a Taxidermied Fox (Foxes will hunt Cats if no other Food Source is available; though Cats are not their Preferred Food Source); I will consider whether the presence of the Taxidermied Fox will repel the Cat; and discourage its Attentions.
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Hey hepcats! Theodore is 9 weeks old, and in the last week, he has taken a shine to rushing out the door of our apartment and into the small hallway outside. There's not much of anyplace for him to run to (beyond down one flight of stairs, where he usually stops), but it's getting a bit annoying, and my wife's not as good at slowly approaching him and picking him up as I am. Any tips to stop him from bolting? He's otherwise very cheery and well-behaved beyond the several-times-a-day "play with me" kitten crazies.
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Enhydra lutris posted:I am not comfortable in the presence of Spiders; however Spiders are Native Creatures; Frogs are also Native Creatures; I do not want the Cat to kill these Creatures; they are a vital component of the Ecosystem; they are both Predators of flying and crawling Insects; with out the Spiders and the Frogs the flying and crawling Insects will proliferate; resulting in an Infestation of the Premises; furthermore Spiders and Frogs are an important Food Source for more advanced Creatures such as Birds; Bats; Snakes; Other; removing Spiders and Frogs has Repercussions [Effects] both up and down the Food Chain; consequently it is unwise to introduce a new Predator in to a Delicate Biome. I am not afraid of Frogs; they are Benign Creatures; I would rather be approached by a Frog than by a Cat. I do not own a Small Dog; I do own a Taxidermied Fox (Foxes will hunt Cats if no other Food Source is available; though Cats are not their Preferred Food Source); I will consider whether the presence of the Taxidermied Fox will repel the Cat; and discourage its Attentions. This is not safe for... Bug lovers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apgMjRTtka4 If you spurn the cats affection, it may see you as a rival for it's master's attention, you will have to submit to the cat. I recommend doing this with light massages to the tips of the ears and chins.
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Cats are not native to Australia and they cause a lot of ecological havoc, but they exist in great number because cats are also lovely friends who purr at you and have soft little toes that look like beans. It is a dreadful guilt to feel as a hopeless cat lady and an admirer of all kinds of critters. I'm not from Australia but I am from New Zealand which has a similarly fragile native ecosystem that is hosed up by introduced species.
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99 CENTS AMIGO posted:Hey hepcats! Theodore is 9 weeks old, and in the last week, he has taken a shine to rushing out the door of our apartment and into the small hallway outside. There's not much of anyplace for him to run to (beyond down one flight of stairs, where he usually stops), but it's getting a bit annoying, and my wife's not as good at slowly approaching him and picking him up as I am. Any tips to stop him from bolting? He's otherwise very cheery and well-behaved beyond the several-times-a-day "play with me" kitten crazies. Cats outside the home are dicks and even the most placid of mogs can become a zoomy rear end in a top hat the second they leave the house. It's really just doing what you've currently been doing, although I've had some success clicker training my cats as well. Just charge the clicker (click = treat) until your cat runs to you when you click, and then hang the clicker by the door so if he gets out again, you click and he'll come running back for his treat. My cats haven't ever made the connection that if they go outside and be cagey assholes about coming back in it'll result in more treats so you should be okay.
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Had to take my cat to the vet today. He got into a fight (we think with another cat), and I discovered an open wound near his left knee (about a centimeter in diameter with the skin pulled away) and one on his left cheek that had scabbed over, which he ripped open scratching at least twice today, dripping bloody pus around. Doc sedated him, flushed the abscesses, and slapped a cone on him. He's home now, but the thing is making him miserable. He struggles to even turn, and just spent long periods sitting in the same position, looking straight ahead (although maybe that's some of the residual anesthesia). Worse, I'm supposed to flush his wounds with a provided syringe until they heal and supply pain meds via oral syringe for the next two days. No idea how I'm going to manage that with an unhappy cat. Exam, treatment and meds were less than $300, which didn't hurt too much. To make matters worse, he's a 60/40 outdoor/indoor neighborhood cat that adopted us, and he's desperate to get back outside. He does his business outside, and may have never used litter before (though he has used a pile of Lego). I bought a box and litter, but he hasn't gone since I took him up there almost 9 hours ago at this point. I've put him in the box and made him paw around a bit, but he still hasn't taken the hint. I dunno if it's the cone still freaking him out or not. He has eaten and had a drink, at least. I don't think he's napped since we got home, either; the cone's got him all hosed up. Vet wants it to stay on 3-4 days, but I'm not sure how we'll manage that. It's already looking pretty gross, getting smeared with stuff from the cheek wound. I want to take it off to clean it, but hell if I know how to get it on again.
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Does anyone know the likely prognosis on feline bladder stones? One of my parents' cats is going to be operated on for those quite soon, and I'm a little worried about him. He's a terrible little furgoblin, but, y'know, he's a family furgoblin. In better news, Rosemary the Butt-Cat is coming up on her two-week move-in anniversary and has not had a butt incident since! She is sweet and lovey and apparently attending to her hygiene properly. Good cat.
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Tamarillo posted:Cats outside the home are dicks and even the most placid of mogs can become a zoomy rear end in a top hat the second they leave the house. It's really just doing what you've currently been doing, although I've had some success clicker training my cats as well. Just charge the clicker (click = treat) until your cat runs to you when you click, and then hang the clicker by the door so if he gets out again, you click and he'll come running back for his treat. Mine was starting to get the idea of going outside and would poke his head out the door if you left it open to get firewood or take the rubbish out or something like that. He stepped out onto the doormat one day and I nailed him with a blast from the garden hose I had set up earlier. hasnt put a whisker over the doorjam since.
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