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kalstrams posted:Legacy of Soviet barbers that had the jobs assigned to them. I'll et you know that Mr. Bean made that haircut popular in the West.
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chitoryu12 posted:Have you ever noticed how defenders of communism always have to put quotation marks around "communist" when they talk about actual communist countries? It should really tell you something about the implementation of communism in the real world. There is and was a significant difference between Marxist Theory, small "c" communism, and "Communism" in the form of a Totalitarian State--that's really state capitalist in nature and not communist at all--that uses Marxism as a label on which to assert their principle of authority. Incidentally, the authority principle has many forms, but is the thing that Totalitarian regimes, and to some extent authoritarian regimes, use to justify the organs of state power being in the hands of a single party. In the case of the Soviet Union this was the "Communism" label--and it extended far beyond the Soviet Union. As a matter of fact, the Soviets used their claim as the "sole authority" on Marxism to crush communist parties in other parts of the world that disagreed with the CPSU in either theory or practice. Incidentally, is funny that supports of Capitalism lambast Marxists for their disavowal of the Soviet System, but are totally comfortable doing this themselves when asked about the capitalist dictatorships and their crimes. They also don't like to think about the death toll of capitalism.
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steinrokkan posted:Before the war most media was published in Russian, all over Ukraine. Russian was actually the privieged language, not the other way around. Erm, no. Legally, only Ukrainian was the official language. All foreign movies in theatres were dubbed in Ukrainian, all Russian films on Ukrainian television had to be subtitled and all official documents were in Ukrainian apart from places where the Russian had the regional language status. Russian wasn't exactly illegal or anything, but it was far from being privileged. Edit: unlike communism, capitalism is not an ideology. Stop arguing about oranges and apples, you fools. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jul 12, 2015 |
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Paladinus posted:Erm, no. Legally, only Ukrainian was the official language. All foreign movies in theatres were dubbed in Ukrainian, all Russian films on Ukrainian television had to be subtitled and all official documents were in Ukrainian apart from places where the Russian had the regional language status. Russian wasn't exactly illegal or anything, but it was far from being privileged. Most publishers printed books and magazines mainy in Russian. 60% of radio stations broadcasted in Russian. Most TV broadcasting was in Russian. I don't really remember the precise name of the analysis I got the numbers from, but I guess I could reproduce it if asked.
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All TV I could watch was in Russian when I was there. I could ask my sister-in-law who lived there for 20 years up until about 2000, and visited frequently, about the prevalence of Nazi-ism in Ukraine and I'm gonna guess that it's minimal. I mean Russia has been calling Ukraine both Nazis and Jews like loving pick one or the other you liar. Miscellaneous Jewish people have been saying they're totally cool in Ukraine like its no biggie to live there; they wouldn't be saying that if they had lynch mobs running after them.
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Runaktla posted:All TV I could watch was in Russian when I was there. I could ask my sister-in-law who lived there for 20 years up until about 2000, and visited frequently, about the prevalence of Nazi-ism in Ukraine and I'm gonna guess that it's minimal.  obviously they're zionist nazis, duh.FWIW I was born in Kharkiv and am fluent in Russian but only conversational in Ukrainian... I mostly muddle through with knowledge of Russian.
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steinrokkan posted:Most publishers printed books and magazines mainy in Russian. 60% of radio stations broadcasted in Russian. Most TV broadcasting was in Russian. I don't really remember the precise name of the analysis I got the numbers from, but I guess I could reproduce it if asked. Well, yes, Russian was and is more popular in general and in my opinion is in no danger of losing this position any time soon, but as I said before, only Ukrainian is the official language with all legal privileges this entails. For example, 80% of Ukrainian pupils were taught in Ukrainian in 2013. And that was under Yanukovich.
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:I'll be going to the Donetsk region in September to document the war, do some research, and hopefully interview soldiers on both sides of the line. Do NAF soldiers respect American passports enough to leave American journalists alone, or is there a fair chance I'll end up like Simon Ostrovsky for a week? You of all people need to read up on loving Caro.
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Godholio posted:You of all people need to read up on loving Caro. He's going with the OSCE so it's not quite the same as showing up in Libya.
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Yeah, I read that after, but I still think he should read up so he realizes that this stuff is no joke.Keldoclock posted:In war nobody is right or wrong. That's pretty glib and stupid.
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Godholio posted:You of all people need to read up on loving Caro. So many mentions, and no link. Godholio, is Horatio right, or the guy's he's fighting? Are they both right? No. If anything they are both wrong, but that's an oversimplification too. Both sides have political goals which you might consider right or wrong. Then there are the actions of the actual people involved in accomplishing goals; and I am sure there is an equal proportion of bastards and decent human beings on both sides. I fly R/C aircraft and dick around with ardupilot on my own time. Here is a guy who did it in a situation where his live was related to how well it was done. Is it not natural that I would want to exchange information, regardless of my political views? I guess none of that is mutually exclusive with my statement being glib and stupid. Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Jul 12, 2015 |
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Keldoclock posted:So many mentions, and no link. I'll save you the trouble: He did what you're thinking of doing in Syria and it ended very poorly.
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Keldoclock posted:So many mentions, and no link.
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Keldoclock posted:So many mentions, and no link. This video sums him up pretty well.
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Godholio posted:You of all people need to read up on loving Caro. I'm well aware of what happened to Caro. There's a huge difference between flying to another country to take part in an armed conflict and embedding with the OSCE for two weeks, unarmed, to observe and research for my course work. I have no intention of hanging around any areas longer than the OSCE deems it safe. e: @OP, did you believe Russian forces had landed in Crimea prior to Putin's admission of such a year after the fact? Or did you know that was BS from the beginning?
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'll save you the trouble: He did what you're thinking of doing in Syria and it ended very poorly. You are mistaking me for someone else. The only thing I'm "thinking of doing" is more shitposting. however... holy poo poo loving lol posted:The first side quest involved getting a cellular telephone SIM card for the rebel cell network. My first attempt resulted in me borrowing and then inadvertently stealing one from some guy due to a breakdown in communications. I apologized after he called me and demanded to know what the gently caress I was doing and we tried it again. This second attempt resulted in a successful SIM card purchase. Remember, I had not learnt any Arabic yet at this point on my trip. Videos, news reports, a loving NPR interview. What a goldmine  EDIT: I can clearly see the value in this sort of footage, but why send people to a warzone to get it? Wouldn't it be better to just like, find english speaking people in a warzone via the internet and send them cameras? Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Jul 12, 2015 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Have you ever noticed how defenders of communism always have to put quotation marks around "communist" when they talk about actual communist countries? It should really tell you something about the implementation of communism in the real world. The only true communism is writing long boring posts or handing out boring pamphlets to people who don't give a gently caress about communism and wish you would stop showing up at their events.
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Stultus Maximus posted:The only true communism is writing long boring posts or handing out boring pamphlets to people who don't give a gently caress about communism and wish you would stop showing up at their events. Marx's legacy writ dumb
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I would like to move to Novorossiya. How would I go about doing this? Can I use my American passport? e: Do you know any officials that could help me out with my quest? Noctis Horrendae fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Are you dead OP? Did the FSB get to you for talking?
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Abandoning your A/T thread because you got told is hihgly illegal.
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Friendly Tumour posted:Abandoning your A/T thread because you got told is hihgly illegal. I havent seen any questions posted, so why bother with the communism dicussion. Im amazed at how many tears and rage I got out of this, though. Someone even got mad enough to change my flair!
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I'm still waiting for you to respond to how that Vice reporter was able to perfectly recreate photos taken by members of the Russian military in various locations in Ukraine if Russia's military isn't in Ukraine.
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Internet Wizard posted:I'm still waiting for you to respond to how that Vice reporter was able to perfectly recreate photos taken by members of the Russian military in various locations in Ukraine if Russia's military isn't in Ukraine. I don't remember any proof of said person being in the Russian military though, aside from a little text blurb on his VK page? Hell, I've got a a RD uniform too, that makes me a russian soldier? Point being, as I repeat it. There are no Russian regulars in Ukraine. If you wanted actual, tough question, why not post that photo of Kamaz Vystrel? That's as hard of a proof that Russian specops is operating in the region, but you seem hellbent on either trying to prove Russia is sending conscripts here, or even trying to prove something to me when I had repeatedly said that I basically don't give a gently caress?
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HoratioRash posted:dance my puppets, dance! I did ask you a question though. Two, even.
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Do you mean this one?Friendly Tumour posted:Is there any evidence of the Odessa clashes being organized by anyone, as opposed to being an example of anarchic violence between two mobs? Also, what mass graves? Do you have any links? As for speaking Russian and ending up in a hospital, I doubt that, but I imagine the result would be far worse if someone was to speak Ukrainian in Separatist territories, so pot, meet kettle. As for language problems or PS, that hardly seems like enough of a reason to invade a sovereign country.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n6xnC--5eU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANt0cExQ0X8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpouzEsQ6MI Please, if you're making such bold claims of us ethically cleansing ukrainians, then maybe you've got some proof? Actual proof, video recordings, for example, statements by republic governments(oh wait, it's Chokie who said that our children will be hiding in the basements), publications by say, OBSE, who is totally not just cruising around the city eating and boozing in Melrose instead of working or whatever?
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HoratioRash posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n6xnC--5eU What the gently caress am I supposed to be looking at here.
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Sorry for the derail, OP. Another question re MH17. http://top.rbc.ru/politics/15/07/2015/55a65cec9a7947b2cda73f02 It looks like the investigation team concluded that it's separatists who've downed the plain. When/if they publish their report with the same conclusion, can it change your stance in any way?
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What about your claim of finding mass graves? It seems the logical thing would be asking Red Cross or similar international organization to conduct investigation.
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Lol, this must be what its like for a thread to be mobbed by russian conspiracy theorists but in reverse.
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Please respond to my question about immigration, OP.
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Paladinus posted:unlike communism, capitalism is not an ideology. Stop arguing about oranges and apples, you fools. What!?
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Paladinus posted:I've been to Lviv and never had problems with my Russian. It's a big tourist city and literally no one minds what language you speak. They do exploit Bandera aesthetics to attract tourists in some pubs and restaurants, but even there waiters are perfectly willing to speak Russian. I don't want to appear to be supporting the Russian side on this but I'm afraid my experience in Lviv was exactly the opposite, I quickly stopped trying to practice my Russian because literally every time I got an angry response along the lines of "I'm not Russian, speak English".
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Jarmak posted:I don't want to appear to be supporting the Russian side on this but I'm afraid my experience in Lviv was exactly the opposite, I quickly stopped trying to practice my Russian because literally every time I got an angry response along the lines of "I'm not Russian, speak English". I concur, when I was to Lviv, one of my friends tried to use his Russian, and ultimately we settled on my English because it produced no negative reactions. Lviv is certainly a tourist city, but based on what I've seen in the hostel we used, it was not about Russian tourism.
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So, again, I haven't followed most of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, or the MH17 crash, but apparently there is now footage of pro-Russian troops looting the dead and poo poo at the crash scene. Can you please explain how this is a CIA plant as well? I would like to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K70igRdKVhA http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/europe/ukraine-mh17-aftermath-video/ quote:A year after Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down over Ukraine, Australian leaders have slammed harrowing video footage that appears to show Russian-speaking fighters rifling through the belongings of victims at the crash site.
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It's just one of the many looter videos. The one that has literally changed me for the worse was a video of a bombardment victim who got her legs blown off, yet remained somewhat lucid for a while - and even before she died, Novorussian looters took her jewellery and other valuables. They swarmed around the dying, desperate woman like vultures.
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steinrokkan posted:It's just one of the many looter videos. The one that has literally changed me for the worse was a video of a bombardment victim who got her legs blown off, yet remained somewhat lucid for a while - and even before she died, Novorussian looters took her jewellery and other valuables. They swarmed around the dying, desperate woman like vultures. Care to link it?
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