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Alfalfa posted:How many of you who do BJJ actually compete in it? I did my first tourney after 3 months, they aren't a big deal.
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Jul 8, 2015 14:17
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They're not that big of a deal, but they are expensive just to compete and take forever. Still you should do one every so often. Your teacher may even encourage as many as possible to compete because they all love listing competition points on their websites, of course those are just total number of wins or placing a with no regard to total number of competitors/win ratios.
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Jul 8, 2015 14:52
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Alfalfa posted:How many of you who do BJJ actually compete in it? I did my first (and only so far) comp right before I got my blue belt. I wanted to get a competition in a white. I got smashed (on points, didn't get subbed), but it was an educational experience. I didn't handle the nerves very well. I could see openings, but I wasn't breathing and was so tense I couldn't get to them. I probably should have started with a smaller local event, instead of an IBJJF event, but hindsight is 20/20.
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Jul 8, 2015 19:09
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I did my first around three months in and fat as gently caress. They're horrible but also great, do at least one.
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Jul 8, 2015 20:32
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Kekekela posted:I did my first around three months in and fat as gently caress. They're horrible but also great, do at least one. Exactly like me! Got smashed by someone who wasn't as stupid as me. The first comp is the one to get out of the way, all the others have been easier, even if I do still dislike them.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:49
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I did my first comp at about 12 months. I usually compete about twice a year now. It depends on what prior stuff you've learned, you're a hulking musclebeast right? You can probably jump straight in after 3-6 months and beat people with your athleticism.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:37
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Alfalfa posted:How many of you who do BJJ actually compete in it? First competition a little less than a year after starting, did No-Gi division and got beaten like I owed the other guy money in the first round because I was [and still am just not as much] a fatty and bad at grappling by some dude built vaguely like the guy in your avatar. I aims to compete twice a year, at beginning level you should be able to smoke most competitors out of pure athleticism so long as you have a general idea of what the rules are and how to do one or three submissions. VulgarandStupid posted:They're not that big of a deal, but they are expensive just to compete and take forever. Website: ADULT DIVISONS BEGIN PROMPTLY AT NOON BE ON TIME!! [your weight and gender is listed as starting estimated 12:30] Guys at Gym: It always runs late, it'll probably be like 1:00/1:30 At Event: Divison runs late due to a bajillion kids signing up and a lack of referees/rings, your division doesn't start till 4:00 @.@ Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jul 9, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 00:12
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So I'm about seven months into learning Judo and I had a few questions. How do dojo's generally orient their teaching? Mine basically has us see a throw, do 5 or so reps, then move onto the next one. I know a dozen different throws, but I can't actually do any of them in randori. Is that normal? Am I just bad?
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Jul 9, 2015 01:46
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Travic posted:So I'm about seven months into learning Judo and I had a few questions. How do dojo's generally orient their teaching? Mine basically has us see a throw, do 5 or so reps, then move onto the next one. I know a dozen different throws, but I can't actually do any of them in randori. Is that normal? Am I just bad? As long as you're also getting randori time to practice, it's pretty normal for technique to not click until you've seen them a few times.
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Jul 9, 2015 01:50
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Alfalfa posted:How many of you who do BJJ actually compete in it? I've competed a few times. First time was after about 3 months training, it was a round-robin setup and I got smashed 2 times and then americana'd a dude who had also trained about 3 months. It was the scariest sports thing I've ever done, but was also completely awesome. It took like 15 more competition matches before I won anything again So yeah, competing after a fairly short time is possible, my coach encourages it, and I'm really glad I did it. I've heard of clubs where you're not even allowed to roll for the first two months though.
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Jul 9, 2015 02:33
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The Fool posted:As long as you're also getting randori time to practice, it's pretty normal for technique to not click until you've seen them a few times. Well crap. Then I may just be terrible. I've been practicing throws for months and still can't pull any of them off. 
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Jul 9, 2015 02:50
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Travic posted:Well crap. Then I may just be terrible. I've been practicing throws for months and still can't pull any of them off. Pick 3 throws that you like, find a buddy, show up early for a few consecutive weeks, and just drill em. e. I'd suggest ko uchi, o uchi, and uchi mata as a good starting trio. CommonShore fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 9, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 03:59
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Bangkero posted:Yuns - good luck to your team mate Travis Stevens. I could have scored free tickets on the Sunday when most of the judokas I've heard of are competing, but I'll be watching the Rugby sevens.
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Jul 9, 2015 05:26
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CommonShore posted:Pick 3 throws that you like, find a buddy, show up early for a few consecutive weeks, and just drill em. I can't show up early unfortunately because a BJJ class has the mat, but I'll see what I can do. I really want to get better.
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Jul 9, 2015 06:57
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Alfalfa posted:How many of you who do BJJ actually compete in it? I started training in early 2007 and then started competing about 3 months after i started. The first couple of tournaments I did were of the regional variety (In the DC area, so like grapplers quest, us grappling, naga). I went in with the mindset of not wanting to take them to seriously, but primarily wanting to test myself against folks whose gampelans i didn't really know. Start doing tournaments early when you don't really have any expectations. If you wait a few years, and somehow get promoted to blue belt without doing comps, you might start developing some weird psychological things which make you freak out over comps. I think since I started when I was a newb and then compete about 5-6 times a year, they're really not a bit thing to me anymore. 7 years later, I still don't "train" before regional comps, or even the smaller ibjjf tournaments, because i'm always training fairly good (i.e., our gym is usually big enough for us to start from our feet) and there's no real point. For the bigger ibjjf tournaments, we start training harder about 6 weeks out and then, it's more of a change in intensity more than anything else. 2DCAT fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Jul 9, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 12:47
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Thanks everyone. I'm really excited to get started and I'm not sure I would say I'm super athletic or anything, I just train hard. I've competed and been decently successful in stuff like football and track in college, then powerlifting, strongman, CrossFit, but really want something I can focus on for many many years and enjoy but not have to wait years to actually compete in. I'm training right now to fix some nagging injuries and issues and move my body better and will be starting up in October. I've been following the thread for awhile and wish I could start sooner, but the school I was recommended only offers it 3 x week and they fall at the same time as my 4 year old son's soccer practices.
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Jul 9, 2015 13:24
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Alfalfa posted:I've competed and been decently successful in stuff like football and track in college, then powerlifting, strongman, CrossFit, but really want something I can focus on for many many years and enjoy but not have to wait years to actually compete in. Honestly, especially at the white belt and a lot of regional blue belt competitions, being in super-shape will probably win you out on a lot of matches in itself. I can't tell you how many matches I've someone just scoff technique and brute force something into happening. In the lower levels, where everyone's technique is bad, being strong and having good cardio can do wonders.
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Jul 9, 2015 14:07
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Alfalfa posted:Thanks everyone. I'm really excited to get started and I'm not sure I would say I'm super athletic or anything, I just train hard. Hate to be the one to break the unfortunate news but if you competed in college football and track then you are, in fact, super athletic.
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Jul 9, 2015 17:22
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Hate to be the one to break the unfortunate news but if you competed in college football and track then you are, in fact, super athletic. Unless it was at, like, Caltech.
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Jul 9, 2015 19:01
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kimbo305 posted:Unless it was at, like, Caltech. My school's basketball team lost to Caltech. Yay DIII or whatever the gently caress we were!
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Jul 9, 2015 19:32
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Also watch our for euros trying to confuse you by referring to high school as college.
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Jul 9, 2015 20:24
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BJJ is a second sport for me, I train once a week at a uni club that closes down half the year when the goddamn lazy undergrads go home. I competed at white belt after like a year of that, and if I'd been training consistently even twice a week I'd probably have been at that level in well under 6 months. I pretty much agree with everyone else - it wasn't a big deal at all, I just happened to score a ticket for a comp from someone who dropped out with an injury. I won pretty much on athleticism, being pretty bad at actual bjj, and you too could do the same! To be honest BJJ doesn't seem to have a super high level of athleticism at the lower grades, since there's such a focus on relaxation and technique. I've had amateur boxing fights and dabbled in a few other things, and they all put way higher emphasis on fitness. There's always gonna be the odd person who's a "white belt" but has been wrestling for ten years or happens to deadlift 3x their bodyweight or whatever, but if you're competing in other sports you'll be ahead of most bjj guys for a fair while.
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Jul 10, 2015 00:13
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How do strikers here deal with damage and getting beat up? If it would be just pain during training, I could deal with it somehow, but going to a nighshift or waking up for work in the morning with damage (a headache, limping, sore ribs) is the worst and I quit striking alltogether after realizing that. With grappling and judo you mostly get sore muscles, not counting accidents, which can be very rare if you are careful with your rolling and randori.
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Jul 10, 2015 00:23
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I pretty much had to quit striking for that reason; I got a proper job, can't have a bruised face, and am not good enough to guarantee I won't have one. That and BJJ has hosed my right hand up so it feels like I'm punching concrete for the last six months...
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Jul 10, 2015 00:30
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I'm not a competitor, but I only spar with people I trust and/or with good supervision. If I feel any negative after-effects from headshots I take at least a month off of anything except basic tag drills. I've never taken a body shot that left me sore the next day. I've had way worse rib/torso injuries from rolling than from boxing.
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Jul 10, 2015 00:33
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The trick is to be very good at striking, be very good at running away, or be very cordial and gentle with your partner so they won't want to harm your person. Third option is not a joke suggestion.
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Jul 10, 2015 01:13
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Novum posted:The trick is to be very good at striking, be very good at running away, or be very cordial and gentle with your partner so they won't want to harm your person. Third option is not a joke suggestion. I actually use the third option combined with lots of practice on my defense. The trick is that it only works with people who understand that there isn't really winning at sparring. Strangely enough, there are some really hard sluggers - guys with knockout streaks in amateur loving boxing - who like sparring with me now and again because they've noticed that going 20-30% allows them to practice things that can be difficult to worry about when you're in a hard sparring session that has become a firefight, such as experimenting with counters.
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Jul 10, 2015 01:23
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I just started Gi -BJJ this week and my hammer-toes and knees are torn to poo poo. Would wrapping the toe joints in athletic tape help or am I just going to have to wait to develop calluses on there so they don't scrape up so easily?
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Jul 10, 2015 17:06
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Just wait till your skin hardens up a bit; should take like a week or two.
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Jul 10, 2015 17:21
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ManOfTheYear posted:How do strikers here deal with damage and getting beat up? If it would be just pain during training, I could deal with it somehow, but going to a nighshift or waking up for work in the morning with damage (a headache, limping, sore ribs) is the worst and I quit striking alltogether after realizing that. You just sort of live with it. If you keep catching damage on a sparring day, you just cut the number of rounds you do short. I don't have a job with any physical demands. If I did construction or something, I'd probably do way fewer rounds.
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Jul 10, 2015 18:48
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I just quit boxing altogether. It was ~9 years ago when all the new brain injury science was coming out, and it freaked me out so I went and started grappling instead.
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Jul 10, 2015 19:56
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I just quit boxing altogether. It was ~9 years ago when all the new brain injury science was coming out, and it freaked me out so I went and started grappling instead. All that science was like a tire strip to my motivation. I still spar, but in much much more limited volume, with a hell of a lot less enthusiasm for brawling.
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Jul 10, 2015 20:06
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Is there any truth to conditioning your stomach and abs to punches, like doing leg raises whilst being slapped on your abs with a glove?
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Jul 12, 2015 20:42
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willie_dee posted:Is there any truth to conditioning your stomach and abs to punches, like doing leg raises whilst being slapped on your abs with a glove? Ah yes, the great acronym arts of TKD, MT, BJJ and MMA have another, lesser known cousin, BDSM. Sorry. I mean it's true that people do that. Experiencing pain will inure you to it to an extent, but as far as getting better at the sport just the leg lifts is probably going to do you the same as leg lifts plus slapping.
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Jul 12, 2015 20:52
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People do it with medicine balls, too. I think it's supposed to be about keeping your breathing going through disruptions more than it's about any kind of conditioning in the sense of conditioning your shins/knuckles.
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Jul 12, 2015 21:18
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Yeah I think it's more mental than physical. If you watch pros they rarely take a flush body shot in a sensitive area. And when they do, they seem to react like a normal person.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:08
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Xguard86 posted:Yeah I think it's more mental than physical. If you watch pros they rarely take a flush body shot in a sensitive area. And when they do, they seem to react like a normal person. Or you can do what one of coaches did. He had shingles on his back so he took our heavy bag, pulled it back and swung it into his back where the shingles were. It was to increase his pain tolerance. He also burned ringworm with a car cig light.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:30
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Bangkero posted:Speaking of judo, I scored free tickets to the judo medal rounds on Saturday at the pan am games. Womens 48kg and 52kg, then Mens 60kg. I'm not familiar with anyone in these weight classes - if anyone knows of an athlete I should look out for I'd love to hear about it. List here.
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Jul 15, 2015 21:27
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Yuns posted:Travis won gold which is fantastic but the amount of media coverage he got seemed like almost nothing unfortunately.  But congrats to him. He looked super comfortable and completely outclassed his opponents. I'm not sure if the commentator was exaggerating or not, but he quoted Travis as saying he trains 48 hours a week.  Just FYI to everyone, Pan Ams judo is done but wrestling is going on right now and boxing is starting on July 18. CBC has online streaming and you can also access previous events: http://panam.cbc.ca/online-listing/index.html
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Bangkero posted:I'm not sure if the commentator was exaggerating or not, but he quoted Travis as saying he trains 48 hours a week. I feel like I live at my gym and I only do like.... 10 a week. That's nuts.
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