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I'm one of those assholes who got interested in the last year or so just in time for everything to apparently be impossible to find. Couple questions if you would be so kind. What bourbon blogs / sites are considered good? Any online places to order booze at respectable prices? I live in VA so state controlled ABC is good for your basics. I ran across Bourbonr, which now looks like it has a separate site pay membership. Does this poo poo look like it's worth the price? http://bourbonr.com/blog/bourbonr-pro-van-winkle-giveaway/
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Jul 4, 2015 17:43
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I've been really enjoying Canadian Club whisky lately, mixed or just on its own. Are other canadian whisky's similar in taste? I know I don't enjoy bourbon, and I have a bit of a taste aversion of Scotch.
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Jul 4, 2015 19:40
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internet jerk posted:I'm one of those assholes who got interested in the last year or so just in time for everything to apparently be impossible to find. Couple questions if you would be so kind. Bourbonr, Red, White, and Bourbon, and r/bourbon on Reddit are all good sources of info and reviews. I think Blake does a great job with Bourbonr, but unless you really want a chance at some private selections by him, I'm not sure what else would make the pay site worth it. Knowing when some big releases are coming out doesn't really help all that much unless you already have some connections. I live in an ABC state, too, so knowing that Pappy or Stagg has been released here means nothing when bars and restaurants get all but 2 bottles. And those 2 are sold before they even get put on a shelf. I order most of my whiskey online, from a huge variety of places. Its a real pain to search online and compare prices and shipping availability to make an order worth it, but that's what you have to do unless money is no object. You can expect to pay about $20 shipping for three 750 ml bottles, buying a single bottle can cost about the same so it's usually not worth it. Since you live in VA, it might be worth it to figure out your whiskey budget for the year, and take a road trip to Kentucky and load up. You'll be able to get some gift shop only releases at distilleries, and find a ton of stuff on shelves you normally wouldn't.
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Jul 4, 2015 21:36
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Big Bidness posted:I order most of my whiskey online, from a huge variety of places. Its a real pain to search online and compare prices and shipping availability to make an order worth it, but that's what you have to do unless money is no object. You can expect to pay about $20 shipping for three 750 ml bottles, buying a single bottle can cost about the same so it's usually not worth it. Mind listing a few places (say the first 3 that pop into your head) you've had good experiences ordering online with? I always like to get recommendations. I hadn't even really considered making a bottle run. That would be a fun road trip. Great idea although I'm not sure when I'd get around to that.
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Jul 5, 2015 00:24
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internet jerk posted:Mind listing a few places (say the first 3 that pop into your head) you've had good experiences ordering online with? I always like to get recommendations. Binny's and Ace Spirits spring to mind. Honestly, I haven had any really terrible experiences ordering liquor online, save for a couple sites not updating their inventory quick enough when there's a feeding frenzy for something. But even then they got back to me quickly to let me know the item wasn't in stock. Just make sure the site ships to your state, and have Fed Ex hold the delivery if you aren't going to be home to sign for it. The only site I try to avoid on principle is Casker's. They want you to sign up just to look at their stock, then spam you with constant emails. They overhype everything to the extreme, and more than once when I bit the bullet and tried to order something that no one else had in stock, they let you add the item to your cart and then give you the out of stock notice. And it's not a case of the site needing to update, because it will stay like that for days. An item will say In Stock until you put it in your cart. So yeah, gently caress Casker's.
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Jul 5, 2015 23:40
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internet jerk posted:I'm one of those assholes who got interested in the last year or so just in time for everything to apparently be impossible to find. Couple questions if you would be so kind. If you are looking for rare/hard-to-find whiskey, then you're going to have some issues looking online as well. I'm not sure where in VA you're at, but it'll probably be significantly easier to make trips into MD and find a good place. I have a place in MD that I drive out to about once a month to restock my bar and have eventually became somewhat close with the guy who runs the shop. When rare things come in, he calls me up. While a lot of folks just mark up prices significantly and sell to randos, a lot of places value repeat business and will call you/hold items for a couple of days once things come in. It's the only way I can get a hold of the BTAC releases at reasonable rates.
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Jul 6, 2015 15:13
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Big Bidness posted:Binny's and Ace Spirits spring to mind. Honestly, I haven had any really terrible experiences ordering liquor online, save for a couple sites not updating their inventory quick enough when there's a feeding frenzy for something. But even then they got back to me quickly to let me know the item wasn't in stock. Just make sure the site ships to your state, and have Fed Ex hold the delivery if you aren't going to be home to sign for it. Drink Up NY isn't bad as well. They usually ship/deliver my orders within 3-4 days. The biggest downside is their selection; better than VA ABC stores, but not on par with some of the MD-based independent stores.
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Jul 6, 2015 15:15
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Just tried Bruichladdich 21 year 1992 Signatory. So smooth I have trouble tasting it.
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Jul 7, 2015 14:14
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Will the Chinese stock market crash / impending recession impact global whisk(e)y prices?
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Jul 8, 2015 19:02
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Leopold Stotch posted:Will the Chinese stock market crash / impending recession impact global whisk(e)y prices? Probably won't change much. Distillers have to lay up barrels years in advance and right now there is no excess. They're just taking younger barrels and selling them as NAS releases because they can. Maybe prices will hold steady, but there's no real precedent for prices to go down. People love alcohol, and they love it a little more when their hearts are filled with sadness.
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Jul 9, 2015 14:01
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kidsafe posted:Maybe prices will hold steady, but there's no real precedent for prices to go down. The 1980s were pretty brutal on most companies. I'm not sure if prices will go "down" again, but i wouldn't be shocked if (one day) a lot of the high-end bourbons eventually go away and we're left with the crap/value selection that was typically available during the 80s though.
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Jul 9, 2015 14:16
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You ever mix wis key with tequil a I like to sometimes and get the party staaaaarted!!
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Jul 10, 2015 03:10
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grandpas drunk posted:You ever mix wis key with tequil a I like to sometimes and get the party staaaaarted!! Grandpas drunk guys
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Jul 10, 2015 04:00
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grandpas drunk posted:You ever mix wis key with tequil a I like to sometimes and get the party staaaaarted!! Pics or it didn't happen
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Jul 10, 2015 05:04
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grandpas drunk posted:You ever mix wis key with tequil a I like to sometimes and get the party staaaaarted!! its good, but not nearly as good as Tommy Wiseau's classic Vodka and Scotch (Scotchka?)
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Jul 10, 2015 11:23
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grandpas drunk posted:You ever mix wis key with tequil a I like to sometimes and get the party staaaaarted!! wub a lub a dub duuuuuuuuub
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Jul 10, 2015 15:03
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Had a dram of The Odin with my best man before the rehearsal. An outstanding Scotch regardless of my Highland Park Fanboyishness.
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Jul 11, 2015 08:47
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I am not going to read 100+ pages however much I love whiskey, but I have a handle of old crow and a big jar of pickles for chasers. I love me my whisky. Time for an Irish coffee.
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Jul 12, 2015 14:32
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trauma llama posted:Had a dram of The Odin with my best man before the rehearsal. An outstanding Scotch regardless of my Highland Park Fanboyishness. Wait you can get Odin now? In other news, I'm putting together a bourbon/rye tasting for my company (140 people). I'd like to do 4 items that showcase some amount of variety of mashbill and taste, Ideally I'd like to pair 2 that are very similar mashbill but differences in dilution/vatting/aging (e.g. Dickel Rye and Black maple hill are both LDI Rye I think -- handy chart here.) Most people there are big fans of Makers Mark and Bulleit so I'd like to do some things a little more interesting than that, and I think I want to show off Corsair Triple smoke as the "oddball" of the group. Recommendations (also, places where I could order whatever you're recommending online or find it in NYC)? Assume that we're willing to pay 80-120/bottle for at least one of the bottles.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:40
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:Wait you can get Odin now? Apparently. I saw a few bottles in Chicago around the beginning of the year. My brothers are just bad rear end and managed to get me a bottle. To be fair I still saw a bottle or two of Loki in St. Louis up until a few months ago. Freya went very quickly though.
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Jul 12, 2015 19:38
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:Wait you can get Odin now? If they're fans of Makers, going with something like Maker's Cask Strength, or Maker's 46 Or if you can find Weller 12, compare that with OWA107 or Special Reserve (edit: or, obviously, Pappy or William Larue Weller, but good luck)
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Jul 12, 2015 19:42
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:Wait you can get Odin now? Koval Bourbon uses millet seed in their grain bill, fair amount too iirc. Might be a nice one to add for one of your different varieties.
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Jul 12, 2015 20:54
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Anyone have any experience with the Wild Turkey 101 Rye? WT101 is probably my favorite whiskey — maybe not the greatest of all, but at its price, quality, & availability nothing comes close, and a bottle is always stocked in my cabinet. Stores around here only carry the 81 rye and I haven't given it a whirl. The Russell's Reserve Rye is another favorite of mine, and I'd like to know how that one compares to the rye 101 before I drop $40 on a web order of their 1L bottle.
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Jul 13, 2015 04:54
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101 rye is great, but in my opinion is overshadowed by Rittenhouse 100, which is slightly cheaper and more full-bodied. That said, the WT formula for their rye is close to their bourbon, so if you love the bourbon I can't imagine you won't love the rye. $40 is a small price to pay for a liter of whisky you really enjoy, and the extra 250ml you get over a regular bottle goes a long way. I'd say go for it.
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Jul 13, 2015 05:09
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I agree with Booyah: As far as $20 ryes go, the Rittenhouse is significantly better than the wild turkey 101.
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Jul 13, 2015 11:12
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2DCAT posted:I agree with Booyah: As far as $20 ryes go, the Rittenhouse is significantly better than the wild turkey 101. Make me third to agree. Rittenhouse is better, but I will admit that the WT101bourbon's really, really tough to beat for the price.
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Jul 16, 2015 03:12
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I love 101 for mixing with things that need a powerful flavor to not get drowned out. For weeks, though, none of the shops around here had it in glass bottles. I don't trust plastic bottles for my booze, as superstitious as that is. So I got Weller, which is kind of similar. For sipping, I prefer Buffalo Trace, honestly. I got talked into a bottle of Eagle Rare last time I was at the store, though. Good whiskey, terrible packaging. I cut my hand on the foil taking the cork off. I ended up having to cut all of the foil off the bottle so I wouldn't do it again. E: Supposing I can find it still, how much better is the Bottled in bond than the regular Rittenhouse? I've still got about 1/3 of a bottle of regular Rittenhouse left.
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Jul 16, 2015 07:35
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Supposing I can find it still, how much better is the Bottled in bond than the regular Rittenhouse? I've still got about 1/3 of a bottle of regular Rittenhouse left. You should always purchase the 100 proof Rittenhouse (unless we're also taking the Rittenhouse 23 or 25 into consideration, which I'm guessing we're not) . Don't get me wrong, I like the rittenhouse, but it is what it is. It's a $20, higher-proof rye that is okay to drink neat, but good to use in sazeracs or manhattans. Because I mainly use it in cocktails, I would go with the 100 proof over the 80 proof every time. Considering that the 80 proof is probably only slight cheaper than the 100 proof, I'd go with the 100 proof regardless of how you're drinking it, and if it's too harsh (doubtful), add your own water and save on the costs. Drinking the Rittenhouse 100 neat is very 'meh' to me, and I'd rather turn to Colonel EH Taylor, WP, or Mastersons if I was going to do that. 2DCAT fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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Jul 16, 2015 11:34
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Deceptive Thinker posted:If they're fans of Makers, going with something like Maker's Cask Strength, or Maker's 46 So the resort insisted on us buying through them, so we gave them a list and they're claiming to have/or committing to find enough of both Weller 12 and OWA 107. The lineup is: Willett Pot Still Reserve (Emphasizing the awesome mouthfeel and chewiness) Weller 12 OWA 107 Corsair Triple Smoke (Tons to say about different flavor influences here) If anyone has specific thoughts/resources on the Weller 12 and OWA, would love to hear.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:38
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Having discovered a good Martini/Whisk(e)y bar right down the street from where I work got me into drinking bourbon/whiskey. I started with Woodford Reserve and loved it, and then had a few Blanton's (I drink mine with some rocks) and I'm kind of loving the brown now. I went out and got a 750ml of Bulleit and that was a great drink. The last time I went to the liquor store I got talked into a bottle of Kentucky Vintage small batch over a Pure Kentucky XO, and it's a decent drink but it just doesn't have enough taste for me. I'm looking for something that has a similar profile to Bulleit or Blanton's for my next bottle purchase, and would love to hear some suggestions from you aficionados. EDIT: Also had a pour of Hibuki 12 which I thought was really good. I think that the only thing that will turn me off from a whiskey so far is too much heat, I've been gunshy about trying anything above 100 proof. b0ng fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 20:00
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b0ng posted:I think that the only thing that will turn me off from a whiskey so far is too much heat, I've been gunshy about trying anything above 100 proof. Wild Turkey 101 is exceedingly drinkable at 101 proof. Nobody should be giving you poo poo about adding a bit of water or ice to open it up, either.
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Jul 22, 2015 02:47
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Lots of good whiskeys are very drinkable at or above 100 proof (old grand dad bonded, bookers, various cask strength scotches). bad whiskeys at high proof at not fun, but with a good one you'll hardly notice. Also try adding just a drop or two of water to cut the burn ever so slightly and open the whiskey up a little more.
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Jul 22, 2015 13:03
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Hell, OGD 114 is perfectly drinkable and it's at full-Sykes proof.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:33
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Does drinking it on the rocks do the same thing as adding a tiny bit of water?
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Jul 22, 2015 20:36
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Does drinking it on the rocks do the same thing as adding a tiny bit of water? Not really. When you drink it on the rocks you not only dilute with a generally more significant amount of water, but you also chill it. Both factors will decrease the sensation of alcohol, but they also mute or at least change flavors. Obviously if you use stones then you won't have dilution, but they can hold onto some residual compounds from previous glasses. kirtar fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 20:40
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I don't know why, but for some reason I find ice in whisky (or whiskey) to be a real turn off. Not "the cold is dulling the flavours" or whatever but a real visceral "ugh" shudder reaction. Yet I like a tiny splash of room temperature water in there. No idea.
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Jul 22, 2015 21:24
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ChetReckless posted:I don't know why, but for some reason I find ice in whisky (or whiskey) to be a real turn off. Not "the cold is dulling the flavours" or whatever but a real visceral "ugh" shudder reaction. Yet I like a tiny splash of room temperature water in there. No idea. I basically only put ice in the stuff they serve on airplanes or if I'm making some sort of cocktail like a mint julep.
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Jul 22, 2015 21:29
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I never drank it on the rocks, but I have found that is the only way to make it tolerable when it's 90 degrees outside and I'm on the second floor.
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Jul 22, 2015 22:30
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And if you get accustomed to high proofs it's hard to drink regular whiskey. I went on a Bakers kick and it took awhile before I could drink anything else, nearly ruined Scotch.
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Jul 22, 2015 23:52
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Kenning posted:Hell, OGD 114 is perfectly drinkable and it's at full-Sykes proof. It is, but I find that a couple drops of water opens up the flavor wonderfully. wormil posted:And if you get accustomed to high proofs it's hard to drink regular whiskey. I went on a Bakers kick and it took awhile before I could drink anything else, nearly ruined Scotch. I just can't touch anything 80 proof.
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