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Beamed posted:What about the women's ESWC?
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mcvey posted:I'm not sure that Silvers actually exist anymore. At least not officially ranked ones. I'm a real silver-player you dummy!  At least I just got promoted to supreme elite silver or whatever it's called, so soon I'm moving up to the big league!
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Jul 13, 2015 15:38
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PerOlus posted:I'm a real silver-player you dummy!
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Jul 13, 2015 15:43
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symbolic posted:Novas are Silvers who have learned to pull down when they spray and to buy grenades. That's it. I went from SEM to nova 3 in ~7 wins by learning how to throw smokes and flashes for my teammates. Aim is still terrible, but at least not silver bad.
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Jul 13, 2015 15:57
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symbolic posted:DMG are MG1s who have learned to pull down when they spray and to buy grenades. That's it. Powerful Wizard IRL fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 16:27
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symbolic posted:Novas are Silvers who have learned to pull down when they spray and to buy grenades. That's it. I keep hearing things like this in this thread, and I experiencing silver differently. Everyone can aim (in the meaning that you have a split-second when seeing someone before you're dead from a headshot) and everyone buys nades. Location callouts etcetc is done. Maybe there are differences in regions, I'm in Sweden. Sure there is a quite large degree of random behavior, example: "kick me"-players, and others who just kill team mates, also Russians refusing to communicate. But "just aim better", or "buy nades" is not enough to rank out of silver. I'm probably playing the game fundamentally wrong in other ways. I'm trying to be more defensive lately, "no rush".
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Jul 13, 2015 17:01
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PerOlus posted:I keep hearing things like this in this thread, and I experiencing silver differently. Everyone can aim (in the meaning that you have a split-second when seeing someone before you're dead from a headshot) and everyone buys nades. Location callouts etcetc is done. Maybe there are differences in regions, I'm in Sweden.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:06
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PerOlus posted:I keep hearing things like this in this thread, and I experiencing silver differently. Everyone can aim (in the meaning that you have a split-second when seeing someone before you're dead from a headshot) and everyone buys nades. Location callouts etcetc is done. Maybe there are differences in regions, I'm in Sweden. Post a demo or two
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Jul 13, 2015 17:14
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symbolic posted:Novas are Silvers who have learned to pull down when they spray and to buy grenades. That's it. Or push up. Noob.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:26
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Ephedra posted:Or push up. Noob.  if you think the average CS player can do push-ups.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:29
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90% of Silvers cannot aim at anywhere near a competent level. Below Silver Elite and we are generally into grandmother territory. What I saw at Silver 3 was pretty close to severe mental illness. Silver 1 I assume is beyond the pale. I remember some goons posting a while back a match where they won using only knives. Split-second headshots it wasn't.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:58
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symbolic posted:Novas are Silvers who have learned to pull down when they spray and to buy grenades. That's it. What are MGs then? I want to know what obvious things I'm missing being a nova.
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Jul 13, 2015 17:59
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prom candy posted:What are MGs then? I want to know what obvious things I'm missing being a nova.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:01
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symbolic posted:Well Sweden is habitually better at CS than us dumb Americans. Swedish Silvers are probably American MG level judging by what you said. I knew I would come off as arrogant, I did not mean to offend your delicate american hearts. (C9 will never beat a swedish team fyi) I never played CS back in the day, and my first exposure to CS is with GO. I only know silver level play, and what I keep hearing here is not consistent with how I experience the game. That means of course that there is a risk of Dunning Kruger:ing going on, and that I literally don't know what I'm talking about. I'll post some replays.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:15
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No one can really tell you what you're doing wrong without seeing you play. Post some demos!
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Jul 13, 2015 18:16
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mcvey posted:No one can really tell you what you're doing wrong without seeing you play. Post some demos! I'm working on learning some new maps right now so my demos would probably too full of map-specific mistakes to be worth watching but once I get a handle on mirage I'll post one of my good games to get some feedback. I think off the bat I already know I'm not using nades enough/effectively and that my aim needs work. I'm pretty solid in DM but I must get panicky or something in a real game I miss some shots when they count.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:11
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It's good you're doing it in Silver, I'm MG1 now and only know Dust 2, and it's pretty awful when I add Inferno or Mirage to the rotation and get annihilated from an area I don't know to watch.  symbolic posted:Pfffffft.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:15
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I'm liking cbble more and more. Just had a nice and close game that started off horrible with only 4 points on CT side and a teammate having a meltdown- but whatever was working for the opposing team stopped once they were on defense, and we steamrolled them for the rest of the points and our toxic guy even hella mellowed out after being dropped a few weapons and positions on the scoreboard
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Jul 13, 2015 19:15
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Beamed posted:It's good you're doing it in Silver, I'm MG1 now and only know Dust 2, and it's pretty awful when I add Inferno or Mirage to the rotation and get annihilated from an area I don't know to watch.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:19
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symbolic posted:I'm actively trying to lose my rank because I queued only cache and inferno up to MG2. That was a bad idea since those are the only two maps I can play/know smokes and flashes for. Once I am unranked again i'll probably throw all the active duty maps in again, just to see what happens. If you can hang on cache and inferno at MG2, there's no reason why you should have to rank down just to compete on the other maps- just pick one or two new ones and learn the most basic smokes and default strats on those, then add more maps to your pool once they start becoming comfortable. You'll probably still get beaten up for a few games until you get the timing and common positions down, but you'll learn more and faster by going up against better opposition anyway. Hell, if you insist on deranking, these very same the early losses will help you in that regard too Out of the active group, the only maps I have left where I feel out of my element is train and dust2, but I'm gonna put off the latter for as long as I possibly can. I'll probably turn supreme before I have more than 3 comp matches played in that horrible place Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 19:33
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Bohemian Nights posted:If you can hang on cache and inferno at MG2, there's no reason why you should have to rank down just to compete on the other maps- just pick one or two new ones and learn the most basic smokes and default strats on those. You'll probably still get beaten up for a few games until you get the timing and common positions down, but you'll learn more and faster by going up against better opposition anyway. Hell, if you insist on deranking, these very same the early losses will help you in that regard too
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Jul 13, 2015 19:36
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symbolic posted:Well, I'm also deranking because I've gotten increasingly pissed off at competitive, so I figure a month long break might help. Also I might as well as see where I really place come the first win, as I certainly felt like I did not belong at MG level even as I won games at MG2. You don't lose your rank after inactivity, though. It only stops displaying what it is- on your first win you'll more than likely end up exactly where you were.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:37
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Here's some https://reddit.com/r/CSeventVODs/comments/3ctd71/eswc_2015/
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Jul 13, 2015 19:39
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Bohemian Nights posted:You don't lose your rank after inactivity, though. It only stops displaying what it is- on your first win you'll more than likely end up exactly where you were.  Maybe I'll try AWPing instead of being a rifler. I've been feeling more comfortable with the big green gun lately. I also don't have to worry about spray control and first shot accuracy because god drat that was difficult for me. At least I could kind of do it with the AK, but I was hopeless with the a1.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:39
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Beamed posted:It's good you're doing it in Silver, I'm MG1 now and only know Dust 2, and it's pretty awful when I add Inferno or Mirage to the rotation and get annihilated from an area I don't know to watch. I wish I had done it in silver when I was still out-aiming most people, I'm GN3. Inferno is particularly a pain in the rear end, so many little dark corners.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:54
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prom candy posted:I wish I had done it in silver when I was still out-aiming most people, I'm GN3. Inferno is particularly a pain in the rear end, so many little dark corners.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:58
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symbolic posted:Well darn. There goes my hope. why not just work on playing better instead of worrying about all of these weird things you think effect your play? TBH up until SMFC/GE level you can just run around and out-aim everybody if you're good enough. thats really it. nades help, but you really don't need them to rank up if your fundamental movement/shooting is there. really. i played on a friend's low level account (LE i think) the other day, and i would just buy pistols(tec/5-7) and 1 flash, dropped serious frags. my one weird tip for ranking up is play dust 2 exclusively. my friend who has 3 GE accounts that he solo-queued to that rank swears by it.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:01
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no_funeral posted:why not just work on playing better instead of worrying about all of these weird things you think effect your play? I dunno, maybe I got burned out on competitive after playing 100 matches in two or three months (which is probably way less than y'all, but too much for me). This break might do me good. 
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Jul 13, 2015 20:04
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Solo queueing is also a lot less scary than you might think if you don't treat your teammates like assholes and give them an idea of what you think you should do imo (for those of you who are scared of it for some reason)
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Jul 13, 2015 20:05
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:Solo queueing is also a lot less scary than you might think if you don't treat your teammates like assholes and give them an idea of what you think you should do imo (for those of you who are scared of it for some reason)
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Jul 13, 2015 20:07
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Sometimes solo queue is a bitch but 80% of the time, I hit friendly, unique people and have fun. Key is to be friendly, do calls, and if nobody IGLs you suggest strats.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:08
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solo-queuing is all about going into a game with as good vibes as you possibly can and opening up communication with your team. The MG ranks also seem a ton better about keeping their cool when down early than the novas were. Also, after about 2 weeks of it 2.25@400 feels way better than 1.875 and I can actually hit people who are moving at close range. Edit: Also, mute the enemy team.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:12
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Ixtlilton posted:solo-queuing is all about going into a game with as good vibes as you possibly can and opening up communication with your team.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:25
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Ixtlilton posted:solo-queuing is all about going into a game with as good vibes as you possibly can and opening up communication with your team. The MG ranks also seem a ton better about keeping their cool when down early than the novas were. Also, after about 2 weeks of it 2.25@400 feels way better than 1.875 and I can actually hit people who are moving at close range. I totally agree with this, having 50 hours in this game over a year (only seriously trying the past few weeks) with 3 competitive wins, teammates are mostly friendly. It's during the half and the end that some seriously negative obnoxious poo poo goes down.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:30
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All my solo queue games lately have been really friendly, even when losing. Overall I've found the Counter Strike community to be by far the friendliest of any competitive game I've played. People who think it's bad should try a MOBA.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:35
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So I'm doing my placement matches. It's 2 wins per day max, right? Also, does it randomly drop you into different rank brackets when you're unranked, or is there some system there?
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Jul 13, 2015 20:42
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Google Butt posted:So I'm doing my placement matches. It's 2 wins per day max, right? Also, does it randomly drop you into different rank brackets when you're unranked, or is there some system there?
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Jul 13, 2015 20:44
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Two demos of recent silver-games. Don't have any better games sorry. I've played mostly mirage, inferno, and zoo lately, but don't have any games from those maps saved. Dust 2 from tonight. We got completely outplayed, and my form was bad. It has been a while since I played the map, with these drat missions going on. Obvious early on that my teammates seemed to have voice talky off, everyone was just doing their own thing. One of those kind of games. First pistol round is like a joke, I just run in alone and get shot. I was distracted ok! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12608928/dust2.zip Agency from friday 2am. This is a bit of a clusterfuck of a game, I have barely played the map, and I think everyone was drunk. At least I was. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12608928/agency.zip I need to save demos more actively.
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Jul 13, 2015 20:49
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PerOlus posted:I have barely played the map, and I think everyone was drunk. At least I was. Don't do this.
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There aren't any silver (hahaha) bullets to getting out of silver. There are plenty of silvers that know you need to pull down when firing, but they're just too inexperienced to rank up. You just need to play more. Rank is a rough measure of hours of deliberate practice. The more you play (with the aim of improving), the better your rank will be.
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