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Popular Human posted:
Which one? I've read Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter and The War of the End of the World which is a pretty hilarious binary
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Jul 13, 2015 15:54
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Do I have to read Go Set A Watchman I feel like I have to read Go Set A Watchman Anyway the New York Times review is up
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Jul 13, 2015 16:18
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End Of Worlds posted:Do I have to read Go Set A Watchman No Honestly it would be better for the world if no one read it
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Jul 13, 2015 16:21
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I've not, nor will I, read it and decided it's bad, just like I've not, nor will I, read Mockingbird and decided it's a good book, for children to read.
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Jul 13, 2015 16:40
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Mr. Squishy posted:I've not, nor will I, read it and decided it's bad, just like I've not, nor will I, read Mockingbird and decided it's a good book, for children to read. Same also I was reading about that book and was't like isn't Atticus Finch supposed to be a teen running through some rye
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Jul 13, 2015 16:45
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Ras Het posted:Same also I was reading about that book and was't like isn't Atticus Finch supposed to be a teen running through some rye no that's Tom Sawyer
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Jul 13, 2015 16:47
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Jul 13, 2015 17:27
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End Of Worlds posted:Do I have to read Go Set A Watchman Death of the author
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Jul 13, 2015 17:55
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CestMoi posted:That was good, as were most of the other bits like his uncle sleeping with his dad's wife because they looked so alike and then the wife is like "well you should both go in a cobra pit and then one of you will die" and they do and one comes out but no ones really sure who it is. But there were bits (mostly at the end) where its like "oh yeah and i was lying down and it felt like there was a coffin on my chest, like I'd killed someone or something, because I probably killed someone in case you didn't pick up on that" and I wish it hadn't had that line because that sort of pushes me towards one interpretation of the entire thing (he killed his wife and is dwelling on it in death fever) when actually I much prefer another interpretation which it sort of hints at a few times (he killed himself and is sort of regretting it while dying of killing himself). I prefer the ambiguity that most of the book does really well and then a few lines sort of take that away IMO. Part of it is that I really do not feel that he is talking singularly about physical death but rather mixes in spiritual, artistic, and ego death as well. The women who is later possibly his wife can be interpreted as some form of ideal or his muse. Another thing is that most of the events may not have ever actually happened or at least in the way that it is portrayed in the book. Much of the scenes are mutations of the one preceding it each getting darker and more morbid as it goes on. Heck I really don't think the end of the book is really the end of his dream/hallucination but rather a place just to end on because otherwise the entire thing would keep going with ever more morbid mutations.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:14
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A human heart posted:I liked that part where it talks about the butcher looking at some sheep carcasses with a buyer's eye, and then later the same thing happens but there's an extra bit about how he looks at his wife the same way at night. Yeah that part is really good.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:15
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End Of Worlds posted:Do I have to read Go Set A Watchman I'm not going to read it because I never had the fondness for mockingbird that others had for it and I'm pretty sure Lee is being used.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:16
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Stravinsky posted:I'm not going to read it because I never had the fondness for mockingbird that others had for it and I'm pretty sure Lee is being used. I'm not going to read it because I have a fondness for mockingbird and I'm pretty sure Lee is being used.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:20
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The funny thing is that Atticus Finch is kind of an obnoxiously idealized character and a perspective on the events and person from beyond the glittering perspective of his six-year old daughter would be genuinely interesting. But that's not what this is.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:22
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Stravinsky posted:Part of it is that I really do not feel that he is talking singularly about physical death but rather mixes in spiritual, artistic, and ego death as well. The women who is later possibly his wife can be interpreted as some form of ideal or his muse. Another thing is that most of the events may not have ever actually happened or at least in the way that it is portrayed in the book. Much of the scenes are mutations of the one preceding it each getting darker and more morbid as it goes on. Heck I really don't think the end of the book is really the end of his dream/hallucination but rather a place just to end on because otherwise the entire thing would keep going with ever more morbid mutations. Hmmm I'm going to read it again because it's short and v good but I felt like some sentences were more real than others, like they were sort of keys to the other stuff. I'm not sure why I got that impression exactly but it's an impression I didn't really like and would be my only complaint, that it seemed like certain bits he wanted you to REALLY GET. I think maybe a bit of it stuck out to me because there's a few recurring ideas of everyone looking a bit like reflections of each other + transforming into the old man with the laugh that makes the hairs on your body stand on end that got me thinking that every character was just the narrator feeling alienated by himself but then just as I was thinking about that I read the line about the coffin weighing down on him like a dead woman's body and that stuck out to me and I got distracted by the much less interesting idea that he killed someone other than himself (not only physical suicide but also other kinds).
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Jul 13, 2015 23:11
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Which one? I've read Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter and The War of the End of the World which is a pretty hilarious binary Feast of the Goat. It's really good so far.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:12
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But you see, Atticus Finch was always the villain because in the first book he didn't believe a rape victim and made her feel bad in court.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:13
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Which one? I've read Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter and The War of the End of the World which is a pretty hilarious binary Death in the Andes is pretty cool, also.
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Jul 14, 2015 07:00
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What's good Melville besides Moby Dick? Is The Confidence-Man a good start?
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Jul 14, 2015 12:39
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I am not sure how much we can equate non-fiction with Literature but read Ta-Nehisi Coates new book unless you are a worthless fuckerBesson posted:What's good Melville besides Moby Dick? Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:42
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Besson posted:What's good Melville besides Moby Dick? Is The Confidence-Man a good start? It's uh, one of the least accessible books I've ever come across, but it's good fun yeah.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:07
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Bartleby is great. White Jacket is proto-Moby if you want more of the same.
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Jul 14, 2015 18:08
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I am not sure how much we can equate non-fiction with Literature but read Ta-Nehisi Coates new book unless you are a worthless fucker i read this as tao lin and was going to beat you up in the weight room in book prison
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Jul 14, 2015 18:44
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Tree Goat posted:i read this as tao lin and was going to beat you up in the weight room in book prison who the gently caress is tao lin and how did you misread it from Ta-Nehisi Coates
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Jul 14, 2015 18:53
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i saw a ta and I blacked out, duh e: oh in response to your first question he's a piece of poo poo
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Jul 14, 2015 18:56
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tao lin is what people are referring to when they talk about western civilization being moribund
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Jul 14, 2015 19:06
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Harper Lee Announces Third Novel.
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Jul 14, 2015 19:49
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Besson posted:What's good Melville besides Moby Dick? Is The Confidence-Man a good start? Read the short fiction and then con man if u like metafiction and Pierre if you like incest Tao Lin owns fuckers. Read Taipei I was shocked at how good it the writing was
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Jul 14, 2015 20:23
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I ordered open city on ILL though don't Mon me book guys
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Jul 14, 2015 20:24
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Business posted:I ordered open city on ILL though don't Mon me book guys Teju Cole is cool as hell though
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Jul 14, 2015 20:31
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Mel Mudkiper posted:who the gently caress is tao lin and how did you misread it from Ta-Nehisi Coates Tao Lin is a widely acclaimed author of the new sincerity and he posted on something awful pretending nto to be himself to get people to read his books. He also did something to do with mumblecore which I assume is bad.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:02
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Wait is new sincerity actually a thing? I thought it was a mocking term for the shoegazing lit that came after post-modernism.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:28
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I think Tao Lin also raped someone?
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Jul 14, 2015 23:35
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Mr. Squishy posted:I think Tao Lin also raped someone? That's insanely New Sincerity.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:42
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What is important is that he raped without irony
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Jul 14, 2015 23:44
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Wait is new sincerity actually a thing? I thought it was a mocking term for the shoegazing lit that came after post-modernism. It's real as gently caress
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Jul 15, 2015 01:13
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Smoking Crow posted:It's real as gently caress I just clicked wikipedia and lol quote:New Sincerity is a term that has been used in music, aesthetics, film criticism, poetry, literary criticism and philosophy, generally to describe art or concepts that run against prevailing modes of postmodernist irony or cynicism. Its usage dates back to the mid-1980s. Who the gently caress considers Lars Von Trier uncynical and Pedro Almodovar unironic
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Jul 15, 2015 01:17
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CestMoi posted:Tao Lin is a widely acclaimed author of the new sincerity and he posted on something awful pretending nto to be himself to get people to read his books did this really happen chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 01:31
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What is The New Sincerity? Think of it as irony and sincerity combined like Voltron, to form a new movement of astonishing power.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:53
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Peel posted:What is The New Sincerity? Think of it as irony and sincerity combined like Voltron, to form a new movement of astonishing power. That's actually what it is Except in Russia where it refers to uncynical post-Soviet poets
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Jul 15, 2015 01:56
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End Of Worlds posted:did this really happen yes he also did it to gawker and it was funnier there
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Jul 15, 2015 02:26
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