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Randalor posted:Please, please, can we go back to the world of plane crashes and psycho murderers? I remember reading through this years ago, and it is way, way more disturbing than the medical+delusion poo poo you seemed to be more bothered by
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Yeah, after having seen The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, I came to the conclusion that scenarios like that, as in locked in syndrome, was like the scariest poo poo imaginable. My father has made his medical wishes pretty clear regarding this sorta poo poo. That stroke scene is loving horrifying, just out of nowhere, a relatively not-old dude doomed to one of the worst possible fates. Dangit, was gonna post this once I read the post above yours. I actually couldn't finish the movie, it freaked me out too much.
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This one disturbs me because I remember it (I was out in the yard playing and saw the smoke); I hope it's interesting to y'all. The 1968 Richmond, Indiana explosion. Marting Arms was a sporting-goods store in downtown Richmond. Unfortunately, they were storing way more gunpowder than they were supposed to be. Even more unfortunately, there was a gas leak. Most unfortunately, the whole thing happened midway through a sunny Saturday afternoon in downtown Richmond, the county seat of a largely rural area. If you were out running errands in those pre-mall days, you would have been downtown*. There were two explosions, gas first, gunpowder second. As with many disasters, the explosion was bad, but the fires afterward did a lot more damage. 41 people died, including 7 children; more than 150 were injured; and 15 buildings were destroyed, plus 5 that had to be demolished due to damage. Half a block away was the State Theater, which was showing a matinee of "Stay Away Joe", an Elvis movie, and many of the children's deaths happened there or nearby. If you imagine that nobody commented on the irony of this title, you would be wrong. So, why disturbing? Because local habits that, in retrospect, look extremely stupid -- see the 1937 New London school explosion caused by siphoning gas from a oil company waste line -- were taken for granted at the time. There had been gas leaks reported all over town, but Richmond Gas Company, a privately-owned company, didn't take them terribly seriously. The day after the explosion, the gas company zoomed in and removed the gas line leading up to the store; they wound up losing a lawsuit anyway. In response, Congress passed the first Natural Pipeline Safety Act. The Cocoanut Grove fire gave us stricter laws on egress from public structures; the Triangle Fire gave us stricter laws on fire safety in the workplace; the Richmond explosion gave us regulation of pipeline safety. You're welcome. * One of the survivors remembered "Back then, downtown Richmond was the center of Wayne County," Bales recalls. "Everything you bought was downtown." Ironically, the renovations in response the explosion converted Main Street downtown into a closed pedestrian promenade. This accelerated the decay of the town core, because it became harder to get to the remaining stores. Of all places, the Rachel Maddow show has an excellent summary putting the explosion in context of the times.
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Aesop Poprock posted:I remember reading through this years ago, and it is way, way more disturbing than the medical+delusion poo poo you seemed to be more bothered by The worst part is somehow her killers got a relative slap on the wrist. Incredibly frustrating stuff.
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Glamorama26 posted:The worst part is somehow her killers got a relative slap on the wrist. Incredibly frustrating stuff. Japan's hosed up legal system is pretty unnerving by itself.
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So I found this on Hacker News; earthquake stuff has fascinated and terrified me since the 2011 Tohoku quake. Even adjusting for the  "Must make this sound terrible to sell papers" bias, this article about the Cascadia subduction zone is freaky. It really drives home how incomplete our understanding is of the geologic processes that (can) affect our most densely-populated coastal cities: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-oneThe Article posted:By the time the shaking has ceased and the tsunami has receded, the region will be unrecognizable. Kenneth Murphy, who directs FEMA’s Region X, the division responsible for Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska, says, “Our operating assumption is that everything west of Interstate 5 will be toast.” From the HN comments, a video simulation of the effect of a magnitude 7.0 quake on the Alaskan Way viaduct in Seattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hos_uIKwC-c Note that the simulation addresses a 7.0 quake, but the New Yorker article posits an impending quake between magnitudes 8.2 and 9.2. The Richter scale is logarithmic, which means the predicted quake will be more than 10 to 100 times stronger than what is depicted in the simulation. For reference, the 2011 Tohoku quake was magnitude 9.0. e: Arsenic Lupin posted:This one disturbs me because I remember it (I was out in the yard playing and saw the smoke); I hope it's interesting to y'all. This is pretty interesting, Richmond has such a weird history, I'm surprised I'd never heard of this before. dobbymoodge has a new favorite as of 22:38 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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1988 Nevada PEPCON Diaster A factory that manufactured rocket fuel (and had excess rocket fuel since the space shuttle program was stopped for a bit after Challenger) exploded. I was only six but my parents remember it. To this day causes are not fully known as the government has not released info or botched up the investigation. quote:There are several theories about what caused the fire and explosions.[8] The Clark County (Nevada) Fire Department (CCFD) did not issue a formal report but did issue a 2 page press release on July 15, 1988 describing what it believed to be the cause of the fire and this and other CCFD information was incorporated into a report by the United States Fire Administration (USFA). A nearby marshmallow factory (Kidd & Co) was vaporized in one of the shock waves, as can be seen in the video at the bottom. They would end up rebuilding it and I took a field trip there a few years later. Lucky that more people weren't killed. quote:About 75 escaped successfully, but two were killed in the last two larger explosions: Roy Westerfield, PEPCON's Controller who stayed behind to call the Clark County Fire Department; and Bruce Halker, the Plant Manager who stood near his car when the first major detonation occurred. Employees at Kidd & Co., the nearby marshmallow factory, heard the explosion and also evacuated. quote:The damage reached a radius of up to 10 miles (16 km), including shattered windows, doors blown off their hinges, cracked windows and injuries from flying glass and debris. At McCarran International Airport, seven miles (11 km) away in Las Vegas, windows were cracked and doors were pushed open. The shock wave buffeted a Boeing 737 on final approach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPVpzjxRjPk
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I went on a field trip to that marshmallow factory too! Las Vegans for years kept calling Henderson "Green Cloud" or something like that because the cause of the explosion wasn't really well explained, so people made up this chemicals = green equivalency.
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Canadian Netflix has a true crime show called "your worst nightmare" I've only seen 2 episodes and it's some pretty horrible crimes
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The shockwave from the fourth explosion is just jaw dropping.
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bean_shadow posted:1988 Nevada PEPCON Diaster somebody left the peeps in the microwave for too long. But seriously holy poo poo.
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Yeah that last guy was a mile away, and got picked up and thrown 40 feet by the shockwave. 
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If you were standing next to the factory that got disintegrated, what would the shockwave do to your body? Would it just throw you or would it potentially break / dislocate bones etc? The shockwave itself I mean, not the broken bones you might receive on impact if it throws you.
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Tibor posted:If you were standing next to the factory that got disintegrated, what would the shockwave do to your body? Would it just throw you or would it potentially break / dislocate bones etc? The shockwave itself I mean, not the broken bones you might receive on impact if it throws you. I doubt you would be thrown so much as reduced to a liquid. E: and then aerosolized titties has a new favorite as of 21:10 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Tibor posted:If you were standing next to the factory that got disintegrated, what would the shockwave do to your body? Would it just throw you or would it potentially break / dislocate bones etc? The shockwave itself I mean, not the broken bones you might receive on impact if it throws you. quote:Blast overpressure may cause primary, secondary and tertiary events leading to bodily injury. Primary blast injury (PBI) occurs from an interaction of the pressure wave and the body. The exact interaction may differ from one organ system to another. In the case of the lung, injury is thought to be caused by the propagation of the wave through the thoracic tissues which results in the opposition of the lung to the chest wall which does not respond as rapidly to the blast wave as does the lung (Stuhmiller et al., 1996). Secondary blast injury results from other objects being impacted by the pressure wave on or into the body... The bolded part especially gets me, your lungs get slammed into your chest wall by the blast.  Other fun effects: quote:Blast overpressure can induce injury to the heart through a variety of proposed mechanisms to include cardiac contusion, pathological neurocardiac reflexes, the initiation and propagation of cell-mediated pathways of injury, and coronary artery obstruction from air emboli or fibrin. Cardiac arrhymias are very common after BOP exposure and asystole, bradycardia, tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation has been described (Carlsten et al., 1954; Clemedson, 1959-1960; Lau et al., 1981). Blunt impact to the heart at a velocity of 13 and 24 m/s has been associated with minor transient arrhymias and ventricular fibrillation, respectively (Lau et al., 1981).
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There are always the apocryphal tales of people whose lungs get literally ripped out through their mouths by the negative pressure following a blast wave, but googling it the first link was to a site called best gore so I'm gonna avoid trying to verify whether thats actually a thing.
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AceRimmer posted:Assuming you're far enough away to not become chunky salsa: Thanks for researching all that. I guess it's just the same as being hit by a fast moving object. I never thought about the damage a shockwave could do and wouldn't have imagined it'd be that severe. All my personal experience of shockwaves comes from dodging the final Bowser's ones in Super Mario 64. Annoying but not quite lungs-through-the-mouth annoying.
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I'd forgotten all about this! I went to college in Richmond about thirty years after the fact, just before they started tearing out the Promenade and running the road back through the town center. (Didn't help much, though; now you can see the shops but still can't get to them since the parking's so crappy.) I was there for the Swayne, Robinson & Co. fire, though; that was pretty spectacular. quote:Although abandoned, the factory still contained several unknown canisters of liquid within it and as the building burned several of these canisters exploded causing the foundation to crack and the roof to collapse in on itself. So really, the lesson is that Richmond needs to work on its hazardous-materials storage.
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I was very fond of the Swayne, Robinson building with its immense sign. It was still in use when I was growing up, along with Purina, Alcoa, a plastics company I can't remember, and a Wonder Bread bakery. It was always exciting finding out which way the wind was blowing by what you smelled.
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Has the documentary The Act of Killing and the events the film focuses on, the '65-'66 anti-Communist genocide in Indonesia been brought up in this thread yet? Here's the thing: I realize--or, well--I want to imagine I live in a world where the majority of people find general atrocities/war crimes/genocides, etc. to be horrific, despicable, inexcusable and all the other adjectives that properly apply to that type of thing. Thing is, events of that sort are always at least slightly different from one another, in some ways, and they are always most horrific when you hear about them first-hand from those who experienced them. It's typically somewhat difficult to get perpetrators of such acts to confess to their crimes and describe them even when we get them into international courts/trials of various types. Not so, in this case, and that's what makes The Act of Killing so genuinely disturbing. I wasn't alive until ~40 years after the Holocaust wrapped, so in my lifetime I've mostly heard only from old Nazis who have either seen the errors of their ways, are decent at faking as tough they have, work the living Hell out of the 'following orders' angle, or were convicted (side note: Just the other day, an official in charge of "customs" at Auschwitz, at the age of ninety-four, was convicted of being an accessory to several hundred thousand murders and received a sentence of four years). With these killings, the ruling regime hired/recruited murderous gangsters helped the government out by slaughtering anyone in Indonesia who was accused or suspected of Communist sympathies/sentiments. These thus ave since been proudly boasting and shamelessly talking about the killings, as they are considered heroic. Or, were, I should say; past tense. Both the events and the film are very disturbing--especially the movie, due to the way it was filmed (I suggest checking out the wiki or the movie itself for a better idea of what I mean by this, because, frankly, the set-up is very unique). It's long and a difficult watch, to be honest with you, just because of how sad a lot of it is. That being said, there is a little catharsis for you at the end of it. What brought it to mind is that today I saw a review for the film's companion piece, The Look of Silence. It is also a documentary, but this time the film focuses on the son of a family torn apart by the genocides. He's grown and now an optometrist, and uses his job to get perpetrators of the killings into his office for questioning in front of the camera. It's the sort of thing that would be entirely uncool if it weren't against people who bragged about drinking the blood of innocent victims. I am yet to see it--I really, really want to, though. It sounds really great, and considering how dark the first part is, I'm hoping The Look of Silence will offer up a little more catharsis. Both films are executive produced by Werner Herzog and Errol Morris (with Andre Singer, on the second one). There's a lot more that I wanted to say about all of this, but to be honest I got busy with something else, so hopefully the links can speak for themselves. Edit: About the tense thing with "are/were heroes:" It depends on who you ask and such, but more recently and especially since the films' releases, it's all been getting more attention. Terra-da-loo! has a new favorite as of 19:31 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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Zombie Raptor posted:Has the documentary The Act of Killing and the events the film focuses on, the '65-'66 anti-Communist genocide in Indonesia been brought up in this thread yet? Gonna have to watch The Look of Silence. Not quite the same thing, but one of my friends lived through the Sierra Leone war and was adopted over here after losing her whole family. She said she went to meet Ishmael Beah author of Long Way Gone to kind of tell him off about being a component of the killings and scattering of families, but backed down from it when she met him. She said it was weird seeing the face and listening to someone that was on the other side of the gun in the whole thing. She said I could ask her anything about what she went through, but every time we're hanging out we're drinking and having a good time and I just don't think making her talk about that while I'm silly drunk is a good idea.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I was very fond of the Swayne, Robinson building with its immense sign. It was still in use when I was growing up, along with Purina, Alcoa, a plastics company I can't remember, and a Wonder Bread bakery. It was always exciting finding out which way the wind was blowing by what you smelled. Not unnerving or scary: if you lived near Fulton, NY, home of the US's oldest chocolate plant, it smelled like chocolate when it rained.  Unnerving and scary: quote:Asbestos cement was used throughout the plant as insulation material. It often came as a powder, which was mixed with water into a pasty consistency, then applied by hand. Mixing the raw asbestos powder with water would release millions of asbestos dust particles into the air. Workers would also be required to scrape and wire brush the hardened asbestos cement when the equipment it was used on required maintenance or repair. 
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Not unnerving or scary: if you lived near Fulton, NY, home of the US's oldest chocolate plant, it smelled like chocolate when it rained. I currently live near the headquarters of McCormick spices. The whole area smells like whatever they're processing that day. Cinnamon Day is the best.  And Arsenic Lupin, Purina and another pet-food plant are still in business, as well as a major bakery (I don't think it's Wonder Bread, though). And the plastics plant is now an industrial wiring facility. Whether you get dog food, baking bread, or carcinogens pretty much depends on the day and the wind.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Gonna have to watch The Look of Silence. Not quite the same thing, but one of my friends lived through the Sierra Leone war and was adopted over here after losing her whole family. She said she went to meet Ishmael Beah author of Long Way Gone to kind of tell him off about being a component of the killings and scattering of families, but backed down from it when she met him. She said it was weird seeing the face and listening to someone that was on the other side of the gun in the whole thing. She said I could ask her anything about what she went through, but every time we're hanging out we're drinking and having a good time and I just don't think making her talk about that while I'm silly drunk is a good idea. I totally understand. That's so foreign an experience, I wouldn't know how to approach it even when most lucid. Likely best it stays behind her, but I might be talking out my rear end. I don't actually know poo poo about psych (well, really basic poo poo).
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I'm not sure it was a keebler factory but there was a cookie factory just far enough away where when the wind blew the right way the whole neighbourhood would smell like cookies.
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All we had around here is an oil refinery and an abattoir/meat rendering plant
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I lived less than a block away from one of the main marshmallow fluff plants when I was a kid. According to my dad they had outside conveyor belts when he was a kid and they'd just steal jars of it all the time.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:All we had around here is an oil refinery and an abattoir/meat rendering plant I think you mean a block of flats. 
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Dr. Benway posted:The shockwave from the fourth explosion is just jaw dropping. You ain't kidding, when bean said the marshmallow place was vaporized, I did not expect a factory to literally disappear
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pyf unnerving article, story, or smell
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Ernie Muppari posted:pyf unnerving article, story, or smell Roasted marshmallows and rocket fuel, yum
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At least those divers come out alive, so it can't be that bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_of_Lake_Karachay quote:Some parts of the lake are extremely radioactive (600 röntgens/hour) and you could receive a lethal dose of radiation in 30 minutes (300 röntgens). Radiation from the Chernobyl disaster added to the pollution of Lake Karachay. Some experts have suggested that the radioactivity has spread to the Techa River and may even reach the Arctic Ocean.
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bean_shadow posted:1988 Nevada PEPCON Diaster I was at school within that ten mile radius in Henderson, and remember every second of that day. Watching a movie in class, first boom had teachers running in confusion, second knocked tiles out of the ceiling and onto kid's heads. We had to evacuate and walk miles to a local park, and during that walk, we were all coming up with theories... Everything from an active volcano to aliens. Wild poo poo.
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Ernie Muppari posted:pyf unnerving article, story, or smell Perhaps the most unnerving smell... is no smell at all  Zicam, a homeopathic cold remedy whose only active ingredient is zinc, made a bunch of people permanently lose their sense of smell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zicam#Litigation
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RNG posted:Perhaps the most unnerving smell... is no smell at all As horrible as losing your sense of snell would be, it would save you a fortune on condiments.
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My grandma lost her sense of smell because of a reaction to the anesthetic used in a routine operation she had. She had to be admitted to the hospital multiple times afterwards for malnutrition, because if you can barely taste anything, you're not likely to eat much.
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imagine how much money you'd save on footwear if you didn't have legs #wow #makesuthink #justthelittlethings
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