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Vox Nihili posted:It's pretty cool that the 20 whitest goons have been arguing for 10 pages about what black people actually need and want, what it's really like out there, and how their candidate is definitely better-equipped to deliver based on vanishingly thin distinctions and illusory campaign promises. Now do the joke about mom's basement and cheetos.
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Gregoriev posted:I don't think Bernie's said this because it's obviously incredibly unlikely to get done in the current socioeconomic climate, but reversing the privatization of prisons on a federal level would definitely significantly affect the manifestation of systemic racism in America. Public prisons are not really very good either. They are really drat terrible, in fact.
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Recent poll averages continue to suggest that Trump's success is helping Jeb.
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DaveWoo posted:Tweets of the Day: not complete without his (son's) reply:  loving still! and I will make you eat your whore words, you white loving cum shitter WhiskeyJuvenile fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Slate Action posted:Recent poll averages continue to suggest that Trump's success is helping Jeb. I'm going to imagine there were 4 previous Cruz's before this one reached perfection.
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I'll be the first on this page to hail satan and may he usher in 1000 years of Trump. The yoojest and most luxurious of hells awaits us all.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:not complete without his (son's) reply: idk what that says
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except putas, i know what that means lol
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mandatory lesbian posted:idk what that says He's calling Trump a wimp and a homo, and saying he'll make him eat his words.
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Slate Action posted:Recent poll averages continue to suggest that Trump's success is helping Jeb. It does, it distracts people from dumb poo poo Jeb! says on the trail, and also makes him look like a serious candidate. It also basically cuts out the oxygen for fire-bomb throwing candidates like Cruz. Basically, Trump isn't a very serious candidate until he actually files with the FEC and actually reveals a real political team with actual proposals. No one cares about that though, and people like Jeb! are more than happy for Donald to soak up so much airspace until they can get properly rolling. By January, we'll be left with a fight between Scott Walker and Jeb! Rubio will bow out after getting his rear end kicked by them in NH and Iowa and will full-throatily endorse his former mentor Jeb!, angling for a VP slot. Paul will stay in to the bitter end, because he's an ideologue.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:He's calling Trump a wimp and a homo, and saying he'll make him eat his words. I wanted to see this campaign destroy Trump but a Colombian necktie is not what I had in mind 
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:not complete without his (son's) reply: Courtesy of Google Translate and urbandictionary: quote:I will loving make you swallow your words, you loving blonde homosexual whore! 
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Sir Tonk posted:Another Dumb A-Hole Is Going To Not Be President, And This Time It’s Scott Walker I don't like lumping in Walker with the rest of the GOP clown car... That really does a disservice to what an evil piece of poo poo he is.
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Obdicut posted:Public prisons are not really very good either. They are really drat terrible, in fact. Didn't mean to imply that, but there is at least one documented case of private prison companies collaborating with judges to meet incarceration quotes, albeit for kids rather than minorities. I would be surprised if the same wasn't occurring with minorities in other areas of the country.
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mcmagic posted:I don't like lumping in Walker with the rest of the GOP clown car... That really does a disservice to what an evil piece of poo poo he is. Walker is easily the...let's say third most likely person to be the next president. BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Fourth. I think Bernie would beat him. Disagree, but I don't have anything strong to back that up. Slate Action fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Slate Action posted:Walker is easily the...let's say third most likely person to be the next president. Fourth. I think Bernie would beat him.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Fourth. I think Bernie would beat him. $100 billion says he won't be able to.
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So people are basically asking to split the thread because actual debate is "making GBS threads up" their anti-republican circle jerk utopia.
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A Winner is Jew posted:$100 billion says he won't be able to. At the point Bernie has toppled Hillary, I think he will have made it clear that money isn't a problem for him to win an election.
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Gregoriev posted:Didn't mean to imply that, but there is at least one documented case of private prison companies collaborating with judges to meet incarceration quotes, albeit for kids rather than minorities. I would be surprised if the same wasn't occurring with minorities in other areas of the country. Okay. We could completely end all private prisons tomorrow and make only a tiny dent in our problems with overincarceration, and even with private profit off of the prison industry. Sorry if this seems nitpicky, but there's a common belief that our prison system started going to hell because of privatization; it's not the case. It's in a lovely situation because sentencing policies that we enacted for the drug war and have continued because politicians are afraid of being weak on crime. Thankfully, this appears to at least no longer be the case with Democrats, and surprisingly, even some Republicans. Not Walker,though, that rear end in a top hat put up a ton of bills to expand sentences and deny parole. It's hard to pick, among all his dick moves, which is the dickest, but that one was definitely penile in the extreme.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:He's calling Trump a wimp and a homo, and saying he'll make him eat his words. good man
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mandatory lesbian posted:good man problematic, as it impliues being homo is bad.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So people are basically asking to split the thread because actual debate is "making GBS threads up" their anti-republican circle jerk utopia. I think calling what's been going on in here "actual debate" is (with a vanishingly few exceptions) far too kind.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So people are basically asking to split the thread because actual debate is "making GBS threads up" their anti-republican circle jerk utopia. Don't worry, it'll also make it easier for you to troll the democrat primary chat.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:At the point Bernie has toppled Hillary, I think he will have made it clear that money isn't a problem for him to win an election. Yea, Bernie strength is anti-money, Hillary still has plenty of chances to shift. Republicans have a very clear stance on this issue, more Money for us gently caress You, anyone who veers from that won't make it through the primary. Play the game we should be playing. Not the game billionaires want us to play. Hail Satan BlueBlazer fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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this_is_hard posted:I never said she should have single handedly stopped Walmart from union busting, but...again, she was present at union-busting board meetings and said nothing, period. This also does not bode well for unions, and could imply that she doesn't consider labor rights to be a priority. I'm sure you read the minutes from every board meeting and were also privy to their conversations before and after. Glad we finally found someone that knows everything that happened those six years and we can now say with certainly that  doesn't care one bit about poor people. Maybe her efforts to push for more women in the management and stricter environmental policies were just smokescreens to distract from her union busting.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:At the point Bernie has toppled Hillary, I think he will have made it clear that money isn't a problem for him to win an election. I'm saying that there would be an obscene amount of money thrown at Walker by the rich if he gets within striking distance to the white house. Like I'm an upper middle class white boy with a trust fund and even I can't fathom how much money will be thrown at him. poo poo, he's already the thrall of the Koch's and I could see them easily spend a $1b alone if he makes it to the finals.
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Eschers Basement posted:I'm throwing my voice in for splitting the thread. Can we emptyquote in D&D? If so, this *1 million.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So people are basically asking to split the thread because actual debate is "making GBS threads up" their anti-republican circle jerk utopia. It's because some people are way tired of scrolling past the pages-long Batman vs. Goku arguments in order to find the discussions about actual news, which at this stage mostly occur around the Republican candidates.
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KillHour posted:My point was that there was nothing special about those solutions that isn't already covered by Bernie's normal rhetoric. All they serve to do is reduce income inequality, which you specifically said isn't enough to fix the problem. And you're right, just making sure black people have a job and don't lose them for bullshit reasons is not enough to fix the plight of racial discrimination in America. We are agreeing on that. My point is simply that (other than the voting thing, which I sincerely forgot about) the economic inequality is the only thing legislation can really address. Off the top of my head. Voting laws. Beefing up Housing regulation (i.e. spending more money on investigators to actually go around to different brokers undercover, this is worth a listen: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/512/house-rules). School funding for impoverished districts (break the frankly racist property tax based funding we have right now). Funding for mental health and indigent outreach connected to community centers and churches. Legislation aimed at race based policing. Crack being equivalent to cocaine (I think its 14 to 1) in sentencing. Programs aimed at targetting at risk youth and children (food, shelter, psychological aid). Gun control in big cities. Pay day scam artist targetting. There's more but I'll stop there. And for the record, there are certain things, like pay day scams, that is beyond unhelpful to look at without considering the context of race. Sanders doesn't seem to be doing it, but his followers seem to be, and that's doing him a disservice, probably.
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fool_of_sound posted:Instead of splitting the thread create a Leftist Purity Showdown thread in the crew forum and exile ideology fights there, and leave this thread for discussing the news. Yes please.
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What the gently caress is an 'ideology fight' please stop being idiots.
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Sir Tonk posted:I'm sure you read the minutes from every board meeting and were also privy to their conversations before and after. Glad we finally found someone that knows everything that happened those six years and we can now say with certainly that lmao no but the NY Times did congrats on having one of the dumbest arguments ive seen recently, though. "have you heard every single word that ever came out of her mouth? How can you BE SURE, THEN?" her efforts to push for more women in management and stricter environmental policies are swell, but they still don't have anything to do with the original topic at hand regarding the AFT endorsement: HRC and unions. why is it that any time anyone criticizes HRC at all an entire brigade of ya'll spring up with "well have you heard of her other positions?!?! <insert strawman argument>"
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Miltank posted:What the gently caress is an 'ideology fight' please stop being idiots. Purity of Essence.
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Page 666, Hail. Lord Trump, who took over for Satan to class up the joint.
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silvergoose posted:Not a single post about the number of the beast?? A Winner is Jew posted:I'll be the first on this page to hail satan and may he usher in 1000 years of Trump. I tried.
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