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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Selfies are not his strong suit I mean seriously, how can you not hear splattering noises and embarrassed groaning?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I mean seriously, how can you not hear splattering noises and embarrassed groaning? Ed edd and eddie uhhuhuh huhh hahuhhuh noises.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I still don't get how a man with absolutely no charisma is can get treated as a major player for the candidacy. Is it purely based on the spitefulness of his policies and politicking? Comination of symbolic value and crossover appeal. He's a doctrinaire conservative who has earned two terms as governor of what is perceived to be a reliably blue state, though Wisconsin's leftiness at the statewide level was questionable before him. He runs on explicitely anti-labor platforms in one of the most sacrosanct strongholds of the American labor movement, and wins. Conservatives love him because they know liberals and leftists hate him with much more personal vitriol than they ever hate the kind of Republicans that never really have to intersect with liberal or leftist spaces. He also has few weaknesses w/r/t the composition of the Republican primary electorate, being well-liked among tea-partiers, evangelicals and monied interests alike. He can crossover to any of the principle voting blocs within the Republican party except for the Paulistas, who are too static to matter. Personally I question whether he can learn to campaign effectively outside the midwest (particularly in a field this large, with multiple regional favorites to compete with) but it's unsurprising that he is treated as one of their Serious Options.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It's mostly due to him being an empty suit willing-no, eager to do whatever the Kochs tell him to. Like, even more than other Republicans. I went to dig up the transcript from 2011 where a journalist pretended to be a Koch and called up Walker, and that fuckbag immediately spills all the beans and begins slobbering all over "Koch" before eagerly accepting an offer to be flown out to California and shown a "good time" as a reward for crushing the unions. Unfortunately Chrome is throwing a malware warning from the Buffalo Beast's site if you search for "scott walker": http://buffalobeast.com/?s=scott+walker Searching for "scott" or "walker" doesn't throw this warning, nor does navigating anywhere else on their site. It's specifically "scott walker" that trips it. Going to the specific link where the transcripts of that phone call are contained, http://buffalobeast.com/koch-whore/ triggers Chrome's malware warning as well. How interesting. So here are the audio recordings instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnSv3a6Nh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3a2pYGr7-k
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:So what bands do you think will be at the Black GOP Outreach concert series? Ted Nugent will headline.
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point of return posted:I don't but that's because I watched Hey Arnold as a kid. The Beeper King 2016!
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PupsOfWar posted:He runs on explicitely anti-labor platforms in one of the most sacrosanct strongholds of the American labor movement, and wins. For anyone who doesn't know what this means, I encourage you to read up on Fighting Bob and read through those summaries: The Birth of the Labor Movement, Women's Suffrage in Wisconsin, and Progressivism and the Wisconsin Idea. (As a side note Walker tried to destroy the goddamn Wisconsin Idea, but walked back on it after enormous public backlash.) It still mystifies me how a state like Wisconsin can turn out standouts like La Follette, Russ Feingold, and Tammy Baldwin, but also turn right around and produce Joseph McCarthy, Paul Ryan, and Scott Walker.
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Brannock posted:For anyone who doesn't know what this means, I encourage you to read up on Fighting Bob and read through those summaries: The Birth of the Labor Movement, Women's Suffrage in Wisconsin, and Progressivism and the Wisconsin Idea. (As a side note Walker tried to destroy the goddamn Wisconsin Idea, but walked back on it after enormous public backlash.) Same problem as Minnesota has. It is one of the most leftist states in the union but somehow ended up with Michelle Bachmann ruling a small conservative stronghold. I think the crazies just group tighter in those states and manage to elect super crazies.
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Brannock posted:For anyone who doesn't know what this means, I encourage you to read up on Fighting Bob and read through those summaries: The Birth of the Labor Movement, Women's Suffrage in Wisconsin, and Progressivism and the Wisconsin Idea. (As a side note Walker tried to destroy the goddamn Wisconsin Idea, but walked back on it after enormous public backlash.) Also reported as malware. It's pretty clear that someone has weaponized the malware reporting system for chrome, or is actually targeting these sites. Who can we report that to?
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Discendo Vox posted:Also reported as malware. It's pretty clear that someone has weaponized the malware reporting system for chrome, or is actually targeting these sites. Who can we report that to? Which links tripped the malware warnings?
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Jul 14, 2015 01:13
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So reading about Walker's family's stance on marriage equality had me discover something. Santorum's comment is especially apt, considering Karen Santorum spent most of the 80's in a relationship with an abortion doctor 40 years her senior that helped deliver her as a child. i spent the 2012 campaign in West Africa but still how did this fly under my radar
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DaveWoo posted:I wouldn't say he has no charisma - listening to him, he seems to exude a certain Midwestern folksy charm. He's already won the Koch's wallet, and in the end isn't that the only thing a Republican candidate needs to win?
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My theory is that closer proximity to Proper Leftism deepens the political force that reactionarianism can command. McCarthy, for instance, was contemporary with the socialist party's rule over Milwaukee. It makes sense that when your largest city is run by outright socialists - when it is, in fact, the only major american city that can claim this - then anti-socialist hysteria would become a particularly potent factor in your state's politics. Couple this with wisonsin's rural population balance and the gee-gosh-why-can't-people-just-be-left-alone conservatism typical of rural midwestern homesteaders.
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Discendo Vox posted:Also reported as malware. It's pretty clear that someone has weaponized the malware reporting system for chrome, or is actually targeting these sites. Who can we report that to? I'm not getting any warnings from those links, weird.
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AnemicChipmunk posted:Scott Walker? Quoting this cause I giggled at Ronald Rogaine. I hope this catches on. Quick everyone email it to all the lovely political cartoonists.
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Alkydere posted:He's already won the Koch's wallet, and in the end isn't that the only thing a Republican candidate needs to win? Isn't there decent evidence that at least in the general election for president that money totals aren't super important? It makes a lot more difference at lower levels, where name recognition plays a larger role. I assume this is at least a small part of why the GOP has done relatively better at winning state legislatures in recent times. I also recall that even when Romney had more cash, TV ads were costing him more because he was buying them closer to air date while Obama had them lined up ahead of time. I may be misremembering the details, but it was something like that.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:
not at all. it's prison mike!
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whydirt posted:Isn't there decent evidence that at least in the general election for president that money totals aren't super important? It makes a lot more difference at lower levels, where name recognition plays a larger role. I assume this is at least a small part of why the GOP has done relatively better at winning state legislatures in recent times. Oh, I wasn't being serious that I thought the moron had a legitimate chance. I was just musing on what is likely Walker's thought process on why he thinks he has a chance. I mean, he might have had a slim chance once against the field of equally laughable candidates, but then Trump came in and sucked all the air out of the room.
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BristolSOF posted:not at all. it's prison mike! Holy poo poo.
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Were those photos taken after that one Sikh temple in Wisconsin got shot up
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PupsOfWar posted:Were those photos taken after that one Sikh temple in Wisconsin got shot up Yes, during the memorial service for the victims.
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Walker is not as much of a national disgrace as the moronic idiots that vote for him.
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Could all the establishment R candidates (JEB!, Rubio and Walker mainly) come together and demand that the RNC not allow Trump in the debate or they would not appear? They could claim that Trump will turn it into a circus (even more so) and distract from the serious adults.
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Brannock posted:Which links tripped the malware warnings? The last one, on the proposed changes to the Wisconsin Idea.
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If some idiot billionaire gave hundreds of millions of dollars to run for president if I promise to destroy the nation once I get the chair I would totally do it. Then right after my inauguration BOOM full communism.
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Discendo Vox posted:The last one, on the proposed changes to the Wisconsin Idea. Interesting. If I can dig up any more suspiciously convenient malware warnings then I may compile them all into an email to a journalist.
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Discendo Vox posted:The last one, on the proposed changes to the Wisconsin Idea. To be fair the Wisconsin State Journal is a thinly veiled conservative rag that murdered the progressive Capital Times.
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BristolSOF posted:not at all. it's prison mike! 
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Stereotype posted:To be fair the Wisconsin State Journal is a thinly veiled conservative rag that murdered the progressive Capital Times. The Capital Times is still going and still printing weekly slams on Walker. What did the WSJ do to the CT?
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Jul 14, 2015 01:53
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The worst thing about being governor...was the dementors.
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Turns out he was not a white supremacist!  
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Could all the establishment R candidates (JEB!, Rubio and Walker mainly) come together and demand that the RNC not allow Trump in the debate or they would not appear? They could claim that Trump will turn it into a circus (even more so) and distract from the serious adults. They could if they wanted to but that would be like jabbing a stick into the hornet's nest that is the GOP base, it's not gonna happen.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Could all the establishment R candidates (JEB!, Rubio and Walker mainly) come together and demand that the RNC not allow Trump in the debate or they would not appear? They could claim that Trump will turn it into a circus (even more so) and distract from the serious adults. The RNC doesn't control who gets invited to the debates, the media channels do. They could beg  not to let Trump in, but good loving luck getting a TV station to throw away that ratings bonanza. Their alternative would be to refuse to show up for the debate, which might have worked for Romney in 2012, but with a field this crowded just makes it easier for Christie or Rand to edge in on their territory. Their best move is to show up, say "I'll cut taxes" and "I'll repeal Obamacare" a few times and hope the field winnows itself somehow by December.
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Joementum posted:Turns out he was not a white supremacist! Well that's nice. Sucks for him that he's gotten his reputation dragged through the mud, though.
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Unrelated to the current conversation: I have an extremely bad memory, but I seem to remember a candidate from either last cycle or the one before, almost immediately after dropping out of the primary, vanished into the arms of his mistress in South America without telling anyone and had the news all in a tizzy because he was missing for a minute. My heart says this was Santorum, but my brain says I made this whole thing up. What is the truth?The Lord of Hats posted:Well that's nice. His tattoos are still loving stupid and his reputation should suffer accordingly.
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Neo Rasa posted:Which candidate will the Duck Dynasty be supporting at the RNC? Jindal
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Solid Poopsnake posted:Unrelated to the current conversation: I have an extremely bad memory, but I seem to remember a candidate from either last cycle or the one before, almost immediately after dropping out of the primary, vanished into the arms of his mistress in South America without telling anyone and had the news all in a tizzy because he was missing for a minute. My heart says this was Santorum, but my brain says I made this whole thing up. What is the truth? Not a candidate, SC governor and current congressman Mark Sanford.
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Solid Poopsnake posted:Unrelated to the current conversation: I have an extremely bad memory, but I seem to remember a candidate from either last cycle or the one before, almost immediately after dropping out of the primary, vanished into the arms of his mistress in South America without telling anyone and had the news all in a tizzy because he was missing for a minute. My heart says this was Santorum, but my brain says I made this whole thing up. What is the truth? Sanford, governor of South Carolina. Said he was "hiking the appalachian trail" when he disappeared to even his own staffers, giving us a lovely euphemism for ploughing the argentinian mistress. Even after that mess, he STILL got elected as a US Congress Rep.
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Brannock posted:The Capital Times is still going and still printing weekly slams on Walker. What did the WSJ do to the CT? They are owned by the same company, and "youths" are more liberal and love the internet so they moved the progressive CT almost entirely online since they couldn't afford to print both. I was pissed when I learned the only daily in the city was going to be the insidiously conservative, McCarthy supporting WSJ.
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