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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Releasing minors = Making France smaller = Making their Liberty Desire smaller? Yes, that's the idea. PittTheElder posted:Ah, then yeah, attack Castile. If you lose, or even if you win, try and release minors from northern France. Though I don't know if the peace deal would let you do that. Every time I've gotten into a war with France on one side and Castile/Spain on the other, Castile comes wandering into France. Let them attack the French stacks and that'll wear them down some.
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Rivalries do seem messed up since CS. As Ayutthaya i westernized and almost immediately got rivaled by England, Spain and Russia, none of whom I (yet) border. Europe is an extremely peaceful place because all these idiots are rivaling me instead. Meanwhile my real enemy Ming, despite being bigger than me and equal in military tech (while Chinese tech group, gg Paradox), isn't a valid rival. All I need to do to get Indochina cored is integrate Hsenwi and then gently caress this campaign, having all of Europe breathing down my neck makes no sense. Edit: I mean it makes perfect sense but not to this extent Prop Wash fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 19:28
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Prop Wash posted:Rivalries do seem messed up since CS. As Ayutthaya i westernized and almost immediately got rivaled by England, Spain and Russia, none of whom I (yet) border. Europe is an extremely peaceful place because all these idiots are rivaling me instead. Meanwhile my real enemy Ming, despite being bigger than me and equal in military tech (while Chinese tech group, gg Paradox), isn't a valid rival.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:31
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:What would you do? If you can somehow get into a war with the two of them they won't be able to support independence any longer.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:40
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When someone embargoes you and then you beat them down in a trade war does that remove the embargo?
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Zettace posted:When someone embargoes you and then you beat them down in a trade war does that remove the embargo? It should for the duration of the peace. Neither will be able to re-apply embargoes during the truce either.
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Jul 13, 2015 21:10
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Zettace posted:When someone embargoes you and then you beat them down in a trade war does that remove the embargo? you don't need a trade war. Winning any kind of war against a nation that embargoes you will lift it for the duration of the truce. if you really want to rub salt on the wounds force them to give you trade power.
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For people with issues on ironman autosaves, are you using local saves? These are much faster on my PC than the cloud saves, since it doesn't have to upload the data every month. I hardly notice the autosaves as it is, and my PC is 6-7 years old and almost literally falling apart.
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OneTwentySix posted:For people with issues on ironman autosaves, are you using local saves? These are much faster on my PC than the cloud saves, since it doesn't have to upload the data every month. I hardly notice the autosaves as it is, and my PC is 6-7 years old and almost literally falling apart. I use local autosaves and have an SSD and the pauses feel like they take longer than they should. Especially at speed 5 I'd say almost half of the time going by is the game being paused to save.
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Poil posted:Cheating with the console has an amazing ability, you can force the Abolish Slavery event on a province to make it produce unknown trade goods and effectively reroll the crappy gold into something more useful, like grain or wool. If you're going to do that, just fire the event that creates whatever trade good you want.
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SeaTard posted:If you're going to do that, just fire the event that creates whatever trade good you want. 
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Jul 13, 2015 22:48
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drat, pretty sure that province of Portugal's is a trade post. If I take it in a war can I Westernize off of it or am I truely screwed until I can get next to a colonial nation?
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Treasure fleets are kind of messed up. If 18.87 ducats of gold each month raises my inflation by .03/year, why does a smaller amount as a one time thing cause ten times the inflation? That amount is 6.1% of that month's income, or roughly 0.5% of the yearly income. I mean, I regularly take hundreds, sometimes thousands of ducats in treaties, and I don't think that has as much of an effect as what basically amounts to what my leader might find in his couch cushions. I get that treasure from the New World caused inflation issues, but shouldn't it be scaled to the gold production in the Old World? Even if I'd received the entire fleet, that's only about five months of gold production.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:26
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drat I wish I had have known you can't westernise off trade companies since I've inadvertantly westernised half of south east Asia and Africa in this Netherlands game.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:27
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Knuc U Kinte posted:drat I wish I had have known you can't westernise off trade companies since I've inadvertantly westernised half of south east Asia and Africa in this Netherlands game.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:drat I wish I had have known you can't westernise off trade companies since I've inadvertantly westernised half of south east Asia and Africa in this Netherlands game. It's a good way to keep the competition down apparently! I like how after taking one colony in Africa Portugal has just hosed off to the rest of the world, and that one colony they turn into a trade company, which will fail constantly from lack of trade power.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:drat I wish I had have known you can't westernise off trade companies since I've inadvertantly westernised half of south east Asia and Africa in this Netherlands game. While you can't westernize off of a trade company province you border, you can westernize off of a core of yours being owned by a western country, trade company or not. So if you conquer a province off of a less advanced country, it will become western if you don't later annex it. GSD fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Jul 13, 2015 23:36
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GSD posted:While you can't westernize off of a trade company province, you can westernize off of a core of yours being owned by a western country, trade company or not. So if you conquer a province off of a less advanced country, it will become western if you don't later annex it. This is good to know. All the good ports are owned by uncivs so I guess I'll be westernising them anyway.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:45
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OneTwentySix posted:Treasure fleets are kind of messed up.
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ZombieLenin posted:There is definitely something weird and broken about rivals when countries get big. I am playing my second Ethiopia game, and in the first I get rivaled by landlocked Poland-Lithuania when the closest province I owned was Cairo. You're Christian and Egypt is really quite close to Europe, so they don't treat you much differently than they would, say, a revived Byzantium. You should take advantage of this instead - once you are in Egypt you can usually also ally Austria and Poland, if you do it before they decide they hate you.
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With the rival system you just gotta be smart about it and by smart I mean making sure your relations with the other great powers are positive. I think the AI just checks to see current and potential rivals and sees oh hey here's a guy I have -45 relations with so let's rival him instead, all while not checking distance.
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Jul 14, 2015 00:12
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And then this happens four years later . . . Oh no, 1.0 inflation . . . or I could snag three treasure fleets for a nice 61 ducats for the same amount, wow.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:drat I wish I had have known you can't westernise off trade companies since I've inadvertantly westernised half of south east Asia and Africa in this Netherlands game. As Spain I had taken Jolof for flavor early on and had a real rough surprise from Mali when Portugal started to expand inwards from the west coast and called me into their wars a hundred years later I thought a 12 unit stack would be enough for anything Africa could throw at me drat western arrogance PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Will HRE states get agressive expansion penalties from me if i expand into Danzig and eastwards as Brandenburg or is it far enough away? I don't want to start the war just to find out i'll get coalitioned if i take anything.
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They'll care (mostly Austria, Bohemia, and Pommerania), but they'll care a lot less. HRE AE is doubled.
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Any tips for taking a free city? Friesland has 4 allies (including NorSweDenmark), and being a free city the Palatinate will protect them. I tried declaring war on a smaller ally, but the AE was just too great for just their one province, it would've caused a huge coalition. So it looks like it requires making them a co-belligerent (which should at least keep the Emperor out, right?), but that means I still have to deal with their billion allies. Is it just going to be hoping that by dumb luck some day their allies will all refuse to join?
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Wait for them to lose their free city status, that's how you take a free city if you can't handle their allies and the emperor's allies
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Back To 99 posted:Will HRE states get agressive expansion penalties from me if i expand into Danzig and eastwards as Brandenburg or is it far enough away? I don't want to start the war just to find out i'll get coalitioned if i take anything. Just keep an eye on the coalition mapmode to see your AE, coalitions will start to form at 30 AE. It's not that big a deal if small coalitions form and is sort of inevitable if you're conquering aggressively. Make sure to keep strong allies (P/L, Denmark and friends if their PUs hold, Saxony, maybe Austria, France, etc) if you're going to expand that hard. Having a coalition form against you doesn't mean you're screwed, just back off for a few years and keep your alliances healthy. Brandenburg/Prussia is a great playthrough for learning AE and HRE mechanics. Get Influence ASAP.
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Zeeland has revolted 4 times now with Duch separatists by event, not from revolt risk. Will this stop at some point? Netherlands has formed. I am Poland. I don't mind keeping 25 troops there forever I guess :|
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Jsor posted:making them a co-belligerent (which should at least keep the Emperor out, right?)
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The defender of the faith is not called in via cobelligerence. I forget if the emperor can be called in, I haven't played inside the HRE much lately.
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Alright, England game was coming along fine. Lots of trade, colonies, and even nibbling almost all of France's coastline...but now, in the early 1600s, there's an English Civil War disaster looming, saying I need to have a debate in Parliament. I can find no key or tab for that. Is it in one of the expansions?
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Jsor posted:Any tips for taking a free city? Friesland has 4 allies (including NorSweDenmark), and being a free city the Palatinate will protect them. I tried declaring war on a smaller ally, but the AE was just too great for just their one province, it would've caused a huge coalition. So it looks like it requires making them a co-belligerent (which should at least keep the Emperor out, right?), but that means I still have to deal with their billion allies. Is it just going to be hoping that by dumb luck some day their allies will all refuse to join? Keep in mind, people will only join a coalition against you if they are hostile to you. They will (usually) only go hostile if they have negative relations with you which means if you improve relations with folks who will care you can go over 30 AE just fine. Just keep them above 0 relations and everything should be okay.
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What's the general strategy with Tabarestan? Thinking about going for This is Persia with them as my next game. Just looking around they seem to pretty much be hostile to all of their big neighbors, and even if they weren't the religion/army/navy size penalties seem like they prevent you from allying with Timurids, QaraQ, Ottos, or Mamluks. I'm thinking of trying to expand up and across the Caspian first into Shirvan or Gazikumukh depending on who they ally, but I'm not too sure how to go about not dying in the meantime. Do you just improve relations with all your neighbors and pray?
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Sephyr posted:Alright, England game was coming along fine. Lots of trade, colonies, and even nibbling almost all of France's coastline...but now, in the early 1600s, there's an English Civil War disaster looming, saying I need to have a debate in Parliament. Bottom right corner you will see a button near the HRE button - start a debate their, bribe the seats with various stuff to get a chance of winning. It's a pretty neat mechanic tbh.
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VDay posted:What's the general strategy with Tabarestan? Thinking about going for This is Persia with them as my next game. Just looking around they seem to pretty much be hostile to all of their big neighbors, and even if they weren't the religion/army/navy size penalties seem like they prevent you from allying with Timurids, QaraQ, Ottos, or Mamluks. I'm thinking of trying to expand up and across the Caspian first into Shirvan or Gazikumukh depending on who they ally, but I'm not too sure how to go about not dying in the meantime. I think most Tabarestan strategies revolve around releasing your other province as a 1 province Persia, then using powerful alliance to get cores back for them and/or waiting for the Timurids to explode and getting your Persia a ton of provinces for free. Then diploannex them, then form Persia.
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Thunder Moose posted:Bottom right corner you will see a button near the HRE button - start a debate their, bribe the seats with various stuff to get a chance of winning. It's a pretty neat mechanic tbh. I believe it needs Common Sense, though. If you don't have that then you're probably screwed... 
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He's not """"screwed"""""""" It's very confusing the way it is displayed and worded but the english civil war is meant to fire after 1600, there is no avoiding it.
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Yeah, just ride that sucker out, you're not just supposed to avoid everything bad happening to your country. Mod talk: anyone have experience with map modding at all? I'm trying to do a really simple thing, just smooth out the borders in the Kola peninsula to make them not pointlessly jagged and discontinuous. But if I just add a new provinces.bmp in my mod folder, the game hangs on Initializing Map Logic at start up, and I'm at a loss as to why. e: Nope, I just had to wait a long rear end time for it to re-cache I guess. e2: All I changed was 9 pixels. 9 pixels!  e3: Stupid compatibility options. Color space information sounds like the kind of thing you'd want! Oh well, off to the races now. Probably need to smooth out Korela a bit now though. Don't suppose anyone has a good cache of old-timey maps out there in the grand internet? Not that it's ever easy to match it to the goofy rear end EU projection (god how I wish I could fix that, but it'd be weeks of work), but it'd be nice to have something to go off of. 
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Kersch posted:I think most Tabarestan strategies revolve around releasing your other province as a 1 province Persia, then using powerful alliance to get cores back for them and/or waiting for the Timurids to explode and getting your Persia a ton of provinces for free. Then diploannex them, then form Persia. And pray five times a day that your neighbors don't decide that they want to eat you before the Timurids eat poo poo. Though in my game Tabarestan remained independent until I ate them in the 1700s, even with a large Persia and a large Gharkiwhatever next to them. The whole of Eastern Anatolia and the southern Caspian was a fragmented mess all game for me, maybe that happens more often in Common Sense. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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