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BloodBag posted:There are two clutches between the rms and input shaft on concentric shafts. The o ring between them leaks transmission oil onto the clutches and then they shudder. They replace the clutches, clean the flywheel and replace the seals then recalibrate the clutch drivers.takes three days and they usually have one guy and that's all he does. Seal leaks at ~18k miles? 
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Enourmo posted:Seal leaks at ~18k miles? Mine did it from like day one. I thought it's just how they drove until I looked it up on focus fanatics and saw there were all kinds of TSBs about it. Had mine done at 30K miles and the clutches worked great for about 5 months and they were all hosed up for one commute and then went back to normal. I don't know. I sold it and bought a manual miata.
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kimbo305 posted:What's surprising about a PDK-derived manual gearbox being worse than the real PDK? You're going from perfect shifting to the best shifting you can do. He's saying (and I've read the same thing) that the PDK derived manuals feel worse than the purposely designed manuals of yesteryear.
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Ziploc posted:He's saying (and I've read the same thing) that the PDK derived manuals feel worse than the purposely designed manuals of yesteryear. Correct. And it's sad because they still have the very very good 6 speed in the 981 Cayman (carried over from the 9x7 generation).
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Is there any chance the new Jeep Renegade is worth a poo poo? I've heard a lot about it being a Fiat product, but I like the stripped base model with a manual. Reliability is a pretty big deal to me (biggest deal), so the word "Jeep" makes me quiver.
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Every review I've watched the reviewers have loved the Renegade. I don't know what its reliability is though.
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The only significant issue with the Renegade I've heard is that the programming for the EDIT: That is the same transmission that's been plaguing the Cherokee. After almost 11 months into Motor Trend's Long-Term Road Test, their Trailhawk is already looking at a third transmission software update. Edward IV fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 15:04
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The 8 speed in my SRT is terrific and at least as good at the DCT I had in the S4 so there are some with good programming. I bet the 5.7 is also good with the 8 speed since the transmission doesn't have to work as hard to make up for the engine's limits. edit: the Renegade apparently uses the 9 speed so all bets are off
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Jymmybob posted:The 8 speed in my SRT is terrific and at least as good at the DCT I had in the S4 so there are some with good programming. I bet the 5.7 is also good with the 8 speed since the transmission doesn't have to work as hard to make up for the engine's limits. The ZF 9A is dogshit. Im pretty eager to see what Ford does with the upcoming 10A. That's a ton of gears, but they look to be well spaced and the trucks can use them.
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Edward IV posted:The only significant issue with the Renegade I've heard is that the programming for the That's a little disturbing, but I'd Has that 1.4L turbo been in anything else prior, or is it a new design?
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LeeMajors posted:That's a little disturbing, but I'd It's the same engine as in the 500 Abarth.
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Also if you're looking at something like the Renegade but want good reliability, you may want to consider the Subaru Crosstrek, especially with the manual. The manual models perform very similar to each other with neither greatly beating the other. The Renegade's greater height gives it more headroom while the Crosstrek's longer wheelbase and length gives it more legroom and cargo capacity.
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Edward IV posted:Also if you're looking at something like the Renegade but want good reliability, you may want to consider the Subaru Crosstrek, especially with the manual. The manual models perform very similar to each other with neither greatly beating the other. The Renegade's greater height gives it more headroom while the Crosstrek's longer wheelbase and length gives it more legroom and cargo capacity. Good lookin out. Never considered a Crosstrek really. I'm probably at least a couple of years out from a new car for myself, but I've been pretty intrigued by the Renegade. Better gas mileage*, small displacement engine with some pretty solid utility. And it's a pretty drat good looking little car too. Just curious if my interest was misguided or not. *than my 16yo 4Runner LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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KozmoNaut posted:It's the same engine as in the 500 Abarth. In the Abarth, it sounds so hilarious. Almost tractor-like.
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angryhampster posted:In the Abarth, it sounds so hilarious. Almost tractor-like. As an abarth owner, there's nothing tractor like about the sound.
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I'm surprised nobody has been chatting about the news that Volvo bought Polestar. Here's hoping for crazy moose cars!
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Mat_Drinks posted:I'm surprised nobody has been chatting about the news that Volvo bought Polestar. Here's hoping for crazy moose cars! more like the entire engineering team put to work researching safety and fuel economy.
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With the exception of the S60 Polestar which is a dumbed down version of the car they were demoing a couple years ago, Volvo seems to be abandoning what little performance ambitions they had. They said back in December that they would be withdrawing from motorsports entirely by 2016, though I don't know if that's changed. As as S60R owner it makes me sad. It's not an incredible performance car, but it's a great balance of performance and comfort.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:With the exception of the S60 Polestar which is a dumbed down version of the car they were demoing a couple years ago, Volvo seems to be abandoning what little performance ambitions they had. They said back in December that they would be withdrawing from motorsports entirely by 2016, though I don't know if that's changed. They had some good cars, but Volvo was never synonymous with performance for me, so much as it was synonymous with "fucker ahead of me going ten under the limit in the fast lane." I guess they know the bulk of their market 
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:With the exception of the S60 Polestar which is a dumbed down version of the car they were demoing a couple years ago, Volvo seems to be abandoning what little performance ambitions they had. They said back in December that they would be withdrawing from motorsports entirely by 2016, though I don't know if that's changed. The s60 t5 stick shift I owned many years ago is still the most fun, "best" car I've ever had the privilege of driving.
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PT6A posted:They had some good cars, but Volvo was never synonymous with performance  
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Yeah competing against exotic cars such as the Toyota Carina, Honda Accord, Vauxhall Cavalier and Nissan Primera
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PT6A posted:A bunch of rubbish. 
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Jul 17, 2015 14:16
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 What poo poo, why do they even try? 
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BloodBag posted:
I know, right? 
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Jul 17, 2015 15:21
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It looks so happy
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turbo bricks are amazing and are the best modern sleepers.
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I don't know, I'm hopeful something fun will come of it. I don't need AMG levels of insanity, I'll be happy with Audi S levels in weird Swedish form.
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Xguard86 posted:turbo bricks are amazing and are the best modern sleepers. first turbo car i ever rode in was the 840 turbo (i think) pulled pretty hard for a big rear end wagon square.
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Mat_Drinks posted:I don't know, I'm hopeful something fun will come of it. I don't need AMG levels of insanity, I'll be happy with Audi S levels in weird Swedish form. Volvo's current top-end S60 makes 325 HP, the Polestar only has 25HP on top of that.
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I'm not arguing that they can't make fast cars, just that 95% of their market is deathly afraid of even going the speed limit, so why spend money on it? Again, the people around here that are going to buy the fast stuff second-hand a few years down the line doesn't present a compelling case for an auto manufacturer.
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PT6A posted:They had some good cars, but Volvo was never synonymous with performance for me, so much as it was synonymous with "fucker ahead of me going ten under the limit in the fast lane." I guess they know the bulk of their market Volvo performance is being able to pass the guy in a w123 300D.
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PT6A posted:I'm not arguing that they can't make fast cars, just that 95% of their market is deathly afraid of even going the speed limit, so why spend money on it? Again, the people around here that are going to buy the fast stuff second-hand a few years down the line doesn't present a compelling case for an auto manufacturer. I agree with your assessment of the majority (American) Volvo demographic but there might be a chicken and egg problem here.
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blugu64 posted:Volvo performance is being able to pass the guy in a w123 300D.
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blk posted:I agree with your assessment of the majority (American) Volvo demographic but there might be a chicken and egg problem here. Look at Cadillac prior to the CTS-V. I mean, they still have that problem, but I think they're gradually changing peoples' views.
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PT6A posted:I'm not arguing that they can't make fast cars, just that 95% of their market is deathly afraid of even going the speed limit, so why spend money on it? Again, the people around here that are going to buy the fast stuff second-hand a few years down the line doesn't present a compelling case for an auto manufacturer. Not to mention their Chinese owners hate motorsport.
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blk posted:I agree with your assessment of the majority (American) Volvo demographic but there might be a chicken and egg problem here. Not really; one ad comparing it to a Countach aside, they spent decades advertising how safe they were for hauling your crotch spawn around in, so they mainly ended up with owners who were shopping for the most tanklike thing to hang their "baby on board" signs in. The fact that for a couple decades they never bothered with styling them to look like anything except a box didn't exactly help appeal to people wanting something fast and sexy; they deliberately marketed themselves as the safe, sensible option, they got buyers who only cared about being safe and sensible. The chicken was their marketing and styling departments, and they laid a very boring egg.
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But the chick was always safe!
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And I didn't say I wanted sexy! I want a fast box! 
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