|
Antillie posted:Well the desktop just updated to build 10166 and it didn't fix the issue. I just burned the ISO for build 10162 to a DVD and I will do a clean install with that tonight. Ok so I figured out the issue. I was disabling the Windows Firewall service. Apparently Windows 10 just freaks the gently caress out if you do that. I started the service up again and everything returned to normal.
|
#
?
Jul 11, 2015 16:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 12:47 |
|
|
WattsvilleBlues posted:Can we really not control volume for individual Universal Apps with the volume mixer (which has been unhelpfully moved from being the default UI when the volume button is clicked)? https://github.com/File-New-Project/EarTrumpet/releases 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 14:43
|
|
|
Outstanding, thanks a million. Why is this not native functionality?!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 15:21
|
|
|
Why does everything in windows 10 have a different UI style, I feel like i'm running a bad winamp theme sometimes If I right click on the task bar it looks completely different from when i right click on an app icon in the task bar. Sometimes i get a classic windows 7 style right click UI, sometimes i get a flat shaded version of that, and sometimes i get a grey and white metro UI. It's always a surprise! Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jul 12, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 15:46
|
|
|
redeyes posted:Can someone explain why the loving share (e-mail) button doesn't work in any build. I can't share directly through e-mail... WTF! It is the first goddamn thing I tried to do! They announced a couple of months ago they were ditching the metro version of Skype for some reason. Only the desktop one exists now. I guess they got tired of supporting two code bases?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 15:58
|
|
|
PINING 4 PORKINS posted:Why does everything in windows 10 have a different UI style, I feel like i'm running a bad winamp theme sometimes 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 16:31
|
|
|
There's even another one this is missing: Right click on a Ribbon or Ribbon Quick Access Toolbar. That'd bring the number of different context menus to 8.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 16:59
|
|
|
Squibbles posted:They announced a couple of months ago they were ditching the metro version of Skype for some reason. Only the desktop one exists now. I guess they got tired of supporting two code bases? Now why they didn't wait until July 29 to pull the plug on metro Skype, who knows.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 17:12
|
|
|
xamphear posted:There's even another one this is missing: Right click on a Ribbon or Ribbon Quick Access Toolbar. That'd bring the number of different context menus to 8. Jesus Christ that is diabolical. Windows 10 is great but this kind of thing really takes the shine off it. I know Microsoft's UI is never consistent but this is even worse than 8.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 17:13
|
|
|
WattsvilleBlues posted:Jesus Christ that is diabolical. The styles... are different!?!?  As far as I can tell (and if someone on the team(s) who makes these apps knows the actual answer, please tell us): Mail app has a custom flyout. Edge has the Windows 8.1 style. I'm guessing that's a bug, since I did see that used elsewhere in the OS and it has since been removed with build and app updates. Just not here I guess  .Right click on Edge is the standard 10 flyout The task bar and right click on tile is "custom" I guess? but it looks the same as the standard one to me. Just with a dark theme and an icon. Task bar right click is the same as the other right clicks on file and the desktop itself. It changes in size depending on if you use your finger, pen, or mouse. The window border right click is lame. That one won't change depending on how you touch it. So out of all of them, I would say the 8.1 edge issue and the window border right click are bad. I'm guessing for the mail client, they made the flyouts custom before the UWP changes for flyouts were finalized? So they went and just did it themselves. And they can be fixed. The whole 10.0 thing of "Let's make sure the functions work, even if it's a little inconsistent".If you want a totally consistent UI, from top to bottom, use BeOS. The bigger issue, IMO, is how the back button works.  Because they just finished finalizing how the back button in the window border and in tablet mode works, you're gonna see some apps have back buttons in the app XAML itself, some with it in the title bar colored, and some not. And if it's in the XAML itself, you better hope they wired up the back button for tablet mode. Also themes in general on desktop Windows 10 are pretty lame. With Windows 10 Mobile/Windows Phone, you get the Dark/Light theme for the whole OS. Windows 10 for Desktops does not have that, so that's where you get the whole partially dark, partially light themes, depending on if the developer has given the option to the user, or just decided for themselves what they want. That's a pain. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 12, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 17:35
|
|
|
Drastic Actions posted:The styles... are different!?!?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 20:14
|
|
|
Been playing around with OneDrive since it's baked into Windows 10. 30GB for free is pretty nice. But from what I can tell through a couple searches, OneDrive data isn't encrypted at rest. Is that still true? I'm not talking about the difference between their key vs. my key, just encryption period. Are all OneDrive files just stored unencrypted?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 20:20
|
|
|
xamphear posted:Been playing around with OneDrive since it's baked into Windows 10. 30GB for free is pretty nice. But from what I can tell through a couple searches, OneDrive data isn't encrypted at rest. Is that still true? I'm not talking about the difference between their key vs. my key, just encryption period. Are all OneDrive files just stored unencrypted? Just like OPM
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 21:27
|
|
|
xamphear posted:Been playing around with OneDrive since it's baked into Windows 10. 30GB for free is pretty nice. But from what I can tell through a couple searches, OneDrive data isn't encrypted at rest. Is that still true? I'm not talking about the difference between their key vs. my key, just encryption period. Are all OneDrive files just stored unencrypted? Yes they are still unencrypted from what I found only onedrive for business offers encryption. Turn on bit locker on the drive the onedrive files are stored or use a 3rd party encryption system.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2015 22:50
|
|
|
xamphear posted:Are all OneDrive files just stored unencrypted? http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2013/12/04/protecting-customer-data-from-government-snooping/
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 00:31
|
|
|
xylo posted:It's all coming for everything. Okay a blog post from 2013 but is Onedrive for consumers of at least Windows 10 data on onedrive encrypted? And I don't mean while transferring but is my now transferred data encrypted on Onedrive? Lowtechs fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jul 13, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 00:52
|
|
|
Drastic Actions posted:If you want a totally consistent UI, from top to bottom, use BeOS No one asking for the entire UI to be consistent but the OS-itself should be uniform. I can't think of any OS after XP that's going backwards as Win10. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 13, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 06:57
|
|
|
Lowtechs posted:Okay a blog post from 2013 but is Onedrive for consumers of at least Windows 10 data on onedrive encrypted? And I don't mean while transferring but is my now transferred data encrypted on Onedrive? quote:"· We also will encrypt customer content that we store. In some cases, such as third-party services developed to run on Windows Azure, we’ll leave the choice to developers, but will offer the tools to allow them to easily protect data.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 08:25
|
|
|
so did they end up removing the legacy control panel, or at least make it usable without having to switch between two apps?
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 12:13
|
|
|
Tab8715 posted:No one asking for the entire UI to be consistent but the OS-itself should be uniform. I can't think of any OS after XP that's going backwards as Win10. I think the funniest thing is that it's not just a clash between new and legacy, it's a clash between new and new. Multiple teams were clearly coming up with their own solutions to the same problem.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 14:02
|
|
|
Generic Monk posted:so did they end up removing the legacy control panel, or at least make it usable without having to switch between two apps? No and no
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 15:33
|
|
|
Happy_Misanthrope posted:No and no It's kinda worse than Windows 8 in some ways. They've moved more stuff from the old Control Panel into Settings, but they've done so by shedding features and options left and right. In some cases the old Control Panel applications are still there, if you go in that way. In some cases you get booted over to the Settings app with no other option. For instance: Did you like having your windows background image randomly shuffled from a folder of pretty pictures? You can't do that in 10 anymore. Unless you run: code:It's like this for a lot of things. As the old Control Panels get subsumed into Settings, a lot of existing options are just being jettisoned left and right. Are any of them deal breakers? Probably not. Can a lot of them be worked around via registry hacks, group policy changes, and so forth? Yeah, if you wanna put the research and effort into it. It's just a definite sign of the direction the OS is likely going in. Is this increased simplicity good or bad? I dunno. It's probably great for new users. It's probably pretty galling if you've been using Windows for a decade or two.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 17:22
|
|
|
xamphear posted:It's kinda worse than Windows 8 in some ways. They've moved more stuff from the old Control Panel into Settings, but they've done so by shedding features and options left and right. In some cases the old Control Panel applications are still there, if you go in that way. In some cases you get booted over to the Settings app with no other option. I just did it on the latest build. Personalize. Choose SlideShow, point it to a folder. Change picture every x and a fit. Done. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 17:32
|
|
|
Happy_Misanthrope posted:No and no never change ms
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 17:48
|
|
|
Irritated Goat posted:I just did it on the latest build. That doesn't shuffle.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 17:57
|
|
|
xamphear posted:That doesn't shuffle. I think I'm missing what you're saying. I had mine set to 1 hour. When I set it, my desktop was 1 image and now it's another. File names aren't even close. Are you saying it won't shuffle between folders or that it always picks them in the same order?
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 19:21
|
|
|
Irritated Goat posted:I think I'm missing what you're saying. I had mine set to 1 hour. When I set it, my desktop was 1 image and now it's another. File names aren't even close. I've tested it both ways, using a folder with 3 images. Without the shuffle box checked (or the registry setting enabled) it goes through all 3 images, in order, over and over, without fail. If I enable the shuffle then I get a random order. You can manually cycle by right clicking your desktop and picking "Next desktop background" if you don't feel like waiting 3 hours. It's possible your registry setting for shuffle is still enabled, possibly if you did an upgrade/etc. You can check it here: HKCU\Control Panel\Personalization\Desktop Slideshow\Shuffle But here's another example from the same Control Panel: In Windows 10, set your desktop background to a solid color, and then pick a custom color for it. As far as I can tell, you can't.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 19:37
|
|
|
I've noticed some very poor performance online and I had chalked it up to Edge but I think its my wifi adapter. I got this decent i7 Toshiba for a HTPC and something to take on the road with me but jesus web browsing can be painful. It has a Centrino Wireless N (N!) 2230 but it seems to only want to do b/g. In the adapter settings wireless N is enabled, but then the wireless mode only gives 3 options, b, g or b/g. I've tried Intel's drivers, I've tried the OEMs, nothing changes this. Right now going back and forth between 5 and 12 mbps on my wifi, I live in an apartment, router is about 15' down the hall. My Surface laid next to it getting up to 130mbps. Anyone else having wifi issues?
codo27 fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jul 13, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 22:08
|
|
|
Noticed photos app got an update, most noticeable differences I've seen is an updated live tile, back button on the upper left of the title bar, refresh button, seems to run a lot better, and it finally lets you add and remove sources in the settings. Edit: Mail and Calendar app also updated, and appears to have completely broken the account syncing for both, at least for me. Snow Fire fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jul 14, 2015 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2015 23:49
|
|
|
I read an announcement that they're no longer releasing Insider builds until the RTM? Are we stuck with what we have until the 29th? I have found 10166 to be disappointingly buggy compared to 10162.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 04:55
|
|
|
Wait so 10162 was the good one? Just had a nightmare time getting it to work going from a fresh 8.1 install (ended up being eaisest to nuke the disk and start afresh) It's going to be an interesting few weeks once this actually gets released - at the moment I've seen more broken upgrades than working ones.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 06:49
|
|
|
It's been working fine for me. The last bad build for me was 10130.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 14:30
|
|
|
Both 10162 and 10166 have been fine for me. 10130 was fine except for on my ancient HTPC. It refused to output the audio to anything other than the HDMI port. Build 10162 and 10166 were fine on it though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 16:14
|
|
|
The only weird thing I'm getting with 10166 is that when I first start up it doesn't remember that I have the system wide zoom setting at 125%, and have to sign out and sign back in to get it to look correct.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 17:16
|
|
|
I've noticed a few small weird things, but the weirdest was an HDMI cable that's worked perfectly before (and works fine with other devices) will only output to 1024x768 on my laptop now. Other cables are fine.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 17:35
|
|
|
On my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet, none of the builds has been able to come back from sleep. 10166 runs better than previous builds, but still, if the computer goes to sleep, it doesn't come back and I have to hard reboot it with a long press of the power button. Also, the screen brightness controls don't seem to work.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 17:50
|
|
|
I don't know if it's an issue with the firmware or with Win 10, but the NUC I'm running it on is unable to reboot. It always freezes hard right after the Intel logo screen. I should have tested it a bit more while on Win 8.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 18:09
|
|
|
LifeSizePotato posted:On my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet, none of the builds has been able to come back from sleep. 10166 runs better than previous builds, but still, if the computer goes to sleep, it doesn't come back and I have to hard reboot it with a long press of the power button. Also, the screen brightness controls don't seem to work. Install the Intel chipset drivers and see if that helps. Also the Rapid Storage manager might need to be installed.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 18:53
|
|
|
nielsm posted:I don't know if it's an issue with the firmware or with Win 10, but the NUC I'm running it on is unable to reboot. It always freezes hard right after the Intel logo screen. I should have tested it a bit more while on Win 8. Which model NUC? I'm running the Win10 preview on the latest gen i5 and it's been working fine. (Fresh install, fwiw.)
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 19:34
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 12:47 |
|
|
redeyes posted:Install the Intel chipset drivers and see if that helps. Also the Rapid Storage manager might need to be installed. Thanks, I will try that. A spent a few minutes Googling but nobody else seemed to post about it online and the tablet's a rarely used toy anyway.
|
|
#
?
Jul 14, 2015 19:39
|
|