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Levantine posted:Dual play should have been the focus instead of the batmobile, no question. It feels way more like Batman than the giant tank does. I'll admit I enjoy the Batmobile stuff but it doesn't feel very Batman-y. Kin posted:I did wonder if the original intent was for it to build up gradually like if the enemies come across one of their buddies KO'd their fear level would rise and as a result so would your meter, but that after testing they found it didn't really work because there was an announcer always directing them to the latest body and that the usefulness of the fear takedown would decrease the more guys you silently took out. Also your idea at least takes into account the detective mode heartrate counter and stuff too. Not that the game wouldn't already highlight your target for you.
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Enemy fear has always been a thing in the Arkham games, that's why the 'emotional state' descriptor is there in detective mode in the first place. Way back in the days of Arkham Asylum they showed off with pride that you could make your enemies panic by loving with them, which would lead to them doing dumb or bold things to make them easier to take out. Thugs will watch their own backs more, walk faster, creep around etc. when they're distressed and fire randomly at the walls and poo poo when they're panicking. Arkham City gives you big, wide-open predator rooms, which allowed Rocksteady to expand upon this mechanic significantly with things like the thugs watching each others' backs and so on. Unfortunately, as you say, usually there's an omniscient voice directing the mooks around and so they don't usually get a chance to show this behavior off. As soon as you take someone out, the voice goes "HEY THERE'S A GUY THAT GOT TAKEN OUT", leading to all the mooks stopping whatever they are doing or were about to do. Being able to do fear takedowns only on enemies who are actually afraid of you would've been a pretty good gameplay twist.
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Jul 14, 2015 21:00
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The best way to handle the Fear Takedowns would probably be like Mark of the Ninja. When you kill a guy in that game and someone finds his body, they just go on alert. But if you do it in a noticeable way and lure them to the body (or throw it at them), they freak out and start becoming panicked. As an unrelated note, you can do a lethal version of Batman's Inverted Takedown in that game. It's even called 'Bat's Prey' as a reference to the Arkham games.
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Jul 14, 2015 21:01
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Regarding fear gameplay: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_Begins_(video_game)
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Jul 14, 2015 21:41
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Nckdictator posted:Help, I'm vaguely excited about a skin. Really want to play a Burton Batman now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU
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Jul 14, 2015 22:33
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Do suicide vests ever come into play outside of that one room?
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Jul 14, 2015 23:01
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poptart_fairy posted:Do suicide vests ever come into play outside of that one room? So no.
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Jul 14, 2015 23:40
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Haha, just finished the fireman side quest and they put the chief in the goddamn same room as loving Pyg, Two-Face and Firefly. Why why why wouldn't they just put him in the same cell as the Riddler informant if they're that short of space? Stupid. I also can't imagine a Gotham City that's seriously looking at cutting the fire budget. Half that city is on fire at any time. Also the one watchtower/checkpoint with 3 guys that you can take out with one drone hack was hilarious.
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redbackground posted:Haha, just finished the fireman side quest and they put the chief in the goddamn same room as loving Pyg, Two-Face and Firefly. Why why why wouldn't they just put him in the same cell as the Riddler informant if they're that short of space? Stupid. I also can't imagine a Gotham City that's seriously looking at cutting the fire budget. Half that city is on fire at any time. The absolute best one is the one with one guy and 3 turrets.
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Jul 15, 2015 00:04
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What the hell is the password to defuse the bomb. I've done this 5 times now and I'm losing my sense of humor. edit thanks youtube plape tickler fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 00:09
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I'm having a lot of fun with the game, but I'm sad that there's no blue and gray costume option. Respect the classics!
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Jul 15, 2015 00:51
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Okay, I'll admit, I'd like to try out the 1989 batman skin. Too bad I'll only get a chance when (IF) if they fixs the godamn thing by christmas.
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Jul 15, 2015 00:57
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Wow it's over already.
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10 Beers posted:I'm having a lot of fun with the game, but I'm sad that there's no blue and gray costume option. Respect the classics! The Neal Adams Batman costume is the Constitution Class Refit of Batman costumes. I love that costume. 
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Jul 15, 2015 01:12
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plape tickler posted:Wow it's over already.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:18
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I'd rather play some buggy stuttery DLC than none at all. 
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Jul 15, 2015 01:35
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On my New Game+ I decided to make Scarecrow the first guy I caught (___Stagg____ ruined that), which means this time around there are still some militia guys hanging about once he's been caught. Their chatter shifts from talking about concerns about their changing bosses to all kinds of talk about the Riddler which is hilarious, because they don't seem to grasp who he is or what he does and think all the trophies and deathtraps laid around are part of some kind of Public Art exhibit Gotham is holding this month  "I found the neat green puzzle on the street, but I couldn't figure it out!"
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Jul 15, 2015 01:44
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How do complete those checkpoints with multiple drone sentry guns inside them? I can't see a way to complete them since you can't destroy them on foot, only disable one of them, and there's no way to fit that batmobile into the checkpoints to destroy them.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:45
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How do complete those checkpoints with multiple drone sentry guns inside them? I can't see a way to complete them since you can't destroy them on foot, only disable one of them, and there's no way to fit that batmobile into the checkpoints to destroy them. Upgrade your disruptor, son.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:46
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theflyingorc posted:It's really, really obvious that Shadow of Mordor had a short development time, the fact that the game is actually good is a testament to how awesome a job the developers did. The rumor is that it spent most of its development time as a Batman game set in the Nolan movie universe but Nolan pulled out of the project so they went with the LOTR setting instead.
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Jul 15, 2015 01:53
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Found a neat easter egg hidden in a grate next to the bumper cars in the new DLC. STARRO! masteraero fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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Jul 15, 2015 01:58
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muscles like this? posted:The rumor is that it spent most of its development time as a Batman game set in the Nolan movie universe but Nolan pulled out of the project so they went with the LOTR setting instead. Good. I don't see the nemesis system working well in a batman game.
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Jul 15, 2015 02:07
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Where is the Steam PC Batgirl DLC? Is it delayed?
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JFC posted:Where is the Steam PC Batgirl DLC? Is it delayed? Yes with not even a hint of when it might come.
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Yes. They decided fixing the PC version as it exists now is more important than shoving out more potentially broken content just because it's done elsewhere.
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JFC posted:Where is the Steam PC Batgirl DLC? Is it delayed?
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I really don't know why people are still assuming the worst of WB and that they're all a bunch of scumbags when they are literally in the process of fixing the game right now at this moment. It is true that the majority of the reason they're doing so is because of the backlash against the game but they could've just said "it works for people who aren't having problems so oh well" and not done anything. But they didn't do that.
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Jerusalem posted:On my New Game+ I decided to make Scarecrow the first guy I caught (___Stagg____ ruined that), which means this time around there are still some militia guys hanging about once he's been caught. Their chatter shifts from talking about concerns about their changing bosses to all kinds of talk about the Riddler which is hilarious, because they don't seem to grasp who he is or what he does and think all the trophies and deathtraps laid around are part of some kind of Public Art exhibit Gotham is holding this month I love how consistently the Riddler is treated as a laughing stock.  Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How do complete those checkpoints with multiple drone sentry guns inside them? I can't see a way to complete them since you can't destroy them on foot, only disable one of them, and there's no way to fit that batmobile into the checkpoints to destroy them. A lot of these checkpoints have ways to lower the defense shields or can be fired upon at an angle from elsewhere in the city. Failing that yeah, upgrade the disruptor and those cannons be made to explode anyone nearby when they try to fire.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How do complete those checkpoints with multiple drone sentry guns inside them? I can't see a way to complete them since you can't destroy them on foot, only disable one of them, and there's no way to fit that batmobile into the checkpoints to destroy them. Every single one that I came across had a way for the Batmobile to blow them up. So look around for higher angles, hackable switches, etc.
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I'm halfway done with the Riddler challenges but I'm really not looking forward to finding the rest of the informants I need. It seems like they're much rarer than they were in City, though that map was a lot tighter than Knight's.
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MrAristocrates posted:I'm halfway done with the Riddler challenges but I'm really not looking forward to finding the rest of the informants I need. It seems like they're much rarer than they were in City, though that map was a lot tighter than Knight's. The third island is weirdly stingy with them. Go back to the one with the clocktower and the PD and they'll spawn semi-reliably.
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MrAristocrates posted:I'm halfway done with the Riddler challenges but I'm really not looking forward to finding the rest of the informants I need. It seems like they're much rarer than they were in City, though that map was a lot tighter than Knight's. You have to regularly be crackin skulls for them to spawn. Take out some rioters.
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CJacobs posted:I really don't know why people are still assuming the worst of WB and that they're all a bunch of scumbags when they are literally in the process of fixing the game right now at this moment. It is true that the majority of the reason they're doing so is because of the backlash against the game but they could've just said "it works for people who aren't having problems so oh well" and not done anything. But they didn't do that.
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That's fair, and like I said, if there wasn't a big backlash against the game they probably wouldn't have done anything about it (thanks, Steam refunds). All I'm saying is that continuing to poo poo on them isn't really worth your time because they acknowledged their mistakes and are actively working to right them.
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CJacobs posted:That's fair, and like I said, if there wasn't a big backlash against the game they probably wouldn't have done anything about it (thanks, Steam refunds). All I'm saying is that continuing to poo poo on them isn't really worth your time because they acknowledged their mistakes and are actively working to right them.
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Norns posted:Good. I don't see the nemesis system working well in a batman game. I could see something like it working with Talons in a Night of the Owls game.
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Mogomra posted:I'd rather play some buggy stuttery DLC than none at all. Same. The game runs fairly well for me despite the poor quality of the port, so this is stupid. Just release the poo poo to people who already own the game.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:09
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Goon dialogue continues to be the best thing in the series.
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Sober posted:fall, which is when they are planning on "relaunching" AK on PC
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Man, the debates with the hostages are golden, ahahahhahaha.
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