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Dahn posted:True, congress can't even pass a budget. constitutional stuff is way way way way out of their range. It's the political Special Olympics, you need to scale back your expectations. Who is calling for Political Revolution? Can the majority of Americans 18+ be motivated to vote in every election? To actually know who is running?
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Dahn posted:Did you key their car? Why would I?
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Nintendo Kid posted:Why would I? Because SA is a humor site, and we need as many people supporting Trump to keep the comedy flowing.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:12
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Dahn posted:Did you key their car? Looking at the damage in the bumper it looks like he headbutted the car.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:20
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Joementum posted:Jeb! says that he's tired of the divisive rhetoric of Donald Trump and Barack Obama. "A Republican will never win by striking fear in people's hearts." Oh I dunno about that, sure seemed to work for your brother...
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Jul 15, 2015 03:29
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The X-man cometh posted:Because SA is a humor site, and we need as many people supporting Trump to keep the comedy flowing. Trump/Cthulu 2016: Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?
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Jul 15, 2015 03:42
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Dahn posted:Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so they do not need to immigrate. They get all the benefits of people born in Delaware, like running for president. IIRC, they pay FICA but not income tax. And are ineligible for EIC. Given that the Republicans are hostile to all those things, I can't imagine they would want to put the Puerto Ricans under that cruel yoke.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:44
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Has the USA today poll been mentioned today? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/14/usa-today-suffolk-poll-republicans-donald-trump/30102255/
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Jul 15, 2015 03:47
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Has the USA today poll been mentioned today? That's a pretty big margin of error there, no?
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Jul 15, 2015 03:49
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:That's a pretty big margin of error there, no?
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Jul 15, 2015 03:50
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McDowell posted:Who is calling for Political Revolution? Can the majority of Americans 18+ be motivated to vote in every election? To actually know who is running? Are you calling Americans stupid, voting without knowing who/what they are voting for.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:52
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sullat posted:IIRC, they pay FICA but not income tax. And are ineligible for EIC. Given that the Republicans are hostile to all those things, I can't imagine they would want to put the Puerto Ricans under that cruel yoke. so republicans are 'pro' statehood ???
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Jul 15, 2015 03:55
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:That's a pretty big margin of error there, no? It is, (and it's not defined), but it still places Trump ahead of Walker. I'll take it.
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Jul 15, 2015 03:57
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I want trump vs biden gold vs diamond
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Joementum posted:FiveThirtyEight has a truly excellent page listing campaign endorsements and providing an explanation of their importance. Looks like someone didn't like Reagan as much back then   Or were there just that few GOP Congressmen...
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Jul 15, 2015 04:01
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Joementum posted:Jet fuel can't melt lead beams. "The most Democrat state." Some day, I will figure out which GOP huckster came up with the idea that they must never say "Democratic" because it sounds vaguely positive and I will throw hardback copies of "The Elements of Style" at their head.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:04
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Third World Reggin posted:I want trump vs biden Imagine the debates. Like this but x100:   I cannot imagine a more amused look than Bidens in that moment, it's absolutely "are you hearing this loving guy?" Trump would somehow amplify that.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:10
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funtax posted:"The most Democrat state." Pretty sure good ol' Rush came up with that one.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:14
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Dahn posted:Are you calling Americans stupid, voting without knowing who/what they are voting for. Most of them can't be bothered to vote unless it is a presidential election which is a binary choice that gets blasted everywhere. State government and Congress is dominated by the GOP because they have a larger base of people who vote in every election and just go from one tv buzzword to another. Healthy democracy shouldn't be so mechanical.
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Kro-Bar posted:Pretty sure good ol' Rush came up with that one. Apparently, I will need a time machine to get my book-throwin' on.
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I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. People raging about Iran having a bomb and the inevitable death of Israel are goddamn morons.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:24
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funtax posted:Apparently, I will need a time machine to get my book-throwin' on. quote:Bush later joked about the issue by talking about his leadership of the "Republic Party" the following month.[28] On February 4, 2007, Bush joked in a speech to House Democrats, stating "Now look, my diction isn't all that good. I have been accused of occasionally mangling the English language. And so I appreciate you inviting the head of the Republic Party." That guy really had his moments, minus all the complete disasters resulting from his leadership.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:28
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. Once one country in the region gets a bomb everyone will want a bomb (like say SA) is the main reason
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Friend, Fresh from my announcement for President, it is vital I contact you about our shared commitment to protect the right to keep and bear arms. I support the rights of law-abiding citizens to own firearms. The last time I checked, the 2nd Amendment is part of the Constitution. President Obama thinks he gets to pick and choose which parts he likes and doesn’t like. He is wrong. Your 2nd Amendment rights can’t be ripped away. The NRA gave me an A+ (Hillary Clinton got an F). That sharp contrast rings out loud and clear like a hunter’s shot in the cold morning air. Friend, I will match my gun owners' rights record with Hillary’s any day of the week, but I will need your help to do it. Please stand with me with a contribution of $10, $35, $50, $100, $250, or more to help elect someone who will defend your 2nd Amendment rights -- not strip them away.  We will stand together and fight with all we’ve got. Hillary has been coming after your guns for years. Whenever there is a gun control bill, you can bet she is for it. She has even gone so far as to take the extreme position of supporting a national gun registry! You just can’t trust her with your right to bear arms. If I am fortunate enough to be your next President, I will defend the Constitution with all the strength God has given me. I don’t care what our anti-gun opponents say, this is about FREEDOM and it goes to the heart of what it means to be an American. No one is going to tell me whether I can own a gun or go hunting. And as President, I will make sure no one tells you if you get to keep your gun. It’s your gun. It’s your freedom. It’s your Constitution. It’s your decision. Friend, you can be sure I won’t flinch. The gun control bullies don’t scare me one bit. I stood up to their kind in the recall race that the Washington Democrats and Big Government Labor Bosses waged against me in 2012 and we won that race by staying true to our values. I have signed legislation giving homeowners the legal right to protect their loved ones and property from an intruder and making Wisconsin the 49th state to allow concealed carry of firearms and other weapons. With your good help, we will tell every gun owner in America exactly where we stand: shoulder-to-shoulder in support of the 2nd Amendment. It’s your help that I need the most today. Knowing what will happen to your gun, your ammo, and your rights if Hillary Clinton becomes President, act decisively, do it now, and take your shot for freedom by standing with me today. Please contribute like your 2nd Amendment right depends on it … because it does. Let’s win this race together and get to work protecting your right to hold your gun firmly in your own strong hands. Governor Scott Walker P.S. It’s your gun. It’s your freedom. As fierce advocates for our hunting heritage, we’ve got a lot at stake in this presidential race. You need to get involved right away and in a big way. Even $10 or $25 will be a big help.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. At risk of derail, here is a Foreign Affairs essay making the case to let Iran have the bomb.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. There is a serious argument against it from some political scientists that basically goes "Iran's not a stable enough government for us to be confident they'll keep control over their nuclear arms," which is (like Pakistan) compounded by the fact that their strategy for defending their deterrent stockpile would probably have to involve moving it around a lot. The worry is that their control over their warheads will be vulnerable to external attack or internal subversion.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. It would alter the strategic balance of power in the region in a way that disfavors US interests (insofar as the US actually has legitimate interests in the region, rather than pointless client states and endless liabilities). No one expects nuclear war.
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Chantilly Say posted:There is a serious argument against it from some political scientists that basically goes "Iran's not a stable enough government for us to be confident they'll keep control over their nuclear arms," which is (like Pakistan) compounded by the fact that their strategy for defending their deterrent stockpile would probably have to involve moving it around a lot. The worry is that their control over their warheads will be vulnerable to external attack or internal subversion. 
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SedanChair posted:Friend,
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SedanChair posted:Friend, "Bob, I need you to write a gun control scare message for third-graders. Hop to it." loving hell, I would be insulted as all get-out if someone sent this to me.
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Jul 15, 2015 04:51
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What's the leadtime on announcement poll bumps? I'm curious as to how high Walker polls after yesterday.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. I'm going to be honest, there's a tiny par of my brain that looks forward to Iran having the bomb, if only to encourage Israel to treat Palestinians as actual loving human beings.
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Nessus posted:Why, because they'd have to expect Israel or America would pre-emptively destroy it? Maybe we could agree to not do that, but that might involve making a promise to other nations. Yeah. For context, Pakistan's strategy for defending its deterrent is that its missiles are mobile and can be frequently moved, so that an Indian surprise first strike would have difficulty targeting Pakistan's deterrent. But that strategy means you have to give relatively low-level commanders a relatively high level of control, and makes the weapons more vulnerable to other things. Pakistan would only do it during a crisis situation, but I'll leave it to your imagination when Iran might think it's under threat of a surprise first strike from Israel or the US. Iran's arsenal as it stands is less mobile than Pakistan's, but it's likely in any event that their defensive strategy would put their warheads at greater risk than a lot of people consider acceptable.
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Pohl posted:I know this from like 10 pages ago, but who the gently caress cares if Iran gets a nuclear bomb? They aren't going to use it. So this is entirely anecdotal but I knew a bunch of Iranian expats back in grad school and heard several of them express the concern that if their government ever actually had a workable bomb in hand it would be smuggled into and detonated in Israel asap. That sounds ridiculous, I know, but they all really hated the Iranian government so 
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:What's the leadtime on announcement poll bumps? I'm curious as to how high Walker polls after yesterday. Does it still count as an "announcement" if everyone has already known about it for months anyway?
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Skwirl posted:I'm going to be honest, there's a tiny par of my brain that looks forward to Iran having the bomb, if only to encourage Israel to treat Palestinians as actual loving human beings. the iranian government doesn't care about that
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That usually means they don't have a name attached to thr email. If they did it would be (first name) × 3
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:So this is entirely anecdotal but I knew a bunch of Iranian expats back in grad school and heard several of them express the concern that if their government ever actually had a workable bomb in hand it would be smuggled into and detonated in Israel asap. That sounds ridiculous, I know, but they all really hated the Iranian government so The Iranian govt treats it's people like poo poo, but no one with power is going to waste their only bomb (which is basically a self defense weapon at this point) on terrorism. Their country would be incinerated, they know that. The entire idea that they would somehow launch a nuclear attack against anyone, ignoring the consequences is dumb as hell. The Iranian expats rightly hate their government, because Iran is constantly in this weird state where the people and the Gov. are constantly at odds with one another. I can understand that, but I don't believe that the leadership of Iran is going to get a nuclear bomb and then gleefully smuggle it into Israel and detonate it.
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Chantilly Say posted:There is a serious argument against it from some political scientists that basically goes "Iran's not a stable enough government for us to be confident they'll keep control over their nuclear arms," which is (like Pakistan) compounded by the fact that their strategy for defending their deterrent stockpile would probably have to involve moving it around a lot. The worry is that their control over their warheads will be vulnerable to external attack or internal subversion. Wasn't a Pakistani nuclear physicist responsible for all sorts of nuclear proliferation with Iran, Libya, North Korea? Non-proliferation is a good thing, I don't think there is any reasonable argument saying otherwise. If Iran gets the bomb then Saudi Arabia gets the bomb and you've started a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
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