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rossmum posted:Ocean actually owns and I am sorry to all the people who require islands as a crutch. I quite like Ocean for something a little different. If every game was Ocean it would be dull but the occasional one is good I think.
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PirateBob posted:How often did you use AP in the Omaha, btw? In the open beta I've fired almost nothing but HE so far. I'm closing in on unlocking the Omaha now and I'm unsure of when to switch to AP. I had a hilarious Omaha on Omaha duel the other day. I was at half health from fighting all match. A full health Omaha that had been pussyfooting around the edge of the map all game decided to try to finish me. It was shooting HE while presenting its broadside to me. I killed it from full to zero before it could finish off my remaining health spamming HE.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:01
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Two good AP salvoes can finish off a flat phoenix or Omaha from full. It's fantastic.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:03
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I panicked a pubbie Pensacola so badly from my first (citadel-crushing) AP salvo last match that he proceeded to beach himself, allowing me to citadel him a second time and then nearly finish him before he finally got into cover. The Atago is loving filthy.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:17
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rossmum posted:Ocean actually owns and I am sorry to all the people who require islands as a crutch. Yeah it's a cool map, and it's hilarious how many people complain about it. Though it certainly didn't take forever to create. I wouldn't mind having some variants of open ocean. Just to have a bit of visual variety.
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rossmum posted:I panicked a pubbie Pensacola so badly from my first (citadel-crushing) AP salvo last match that he proceeded to beach himself, allowing me to citadel him a second time and then nearly finish him before he finally got into cover. STOP MAKING ME WANT TO THROW MONEY AT THIS GAME! Seriously though, I spent enough on tanks as it is  I am really happy with the Warspite so if the Atago is a solid CV I might have to persuade myself to get it.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:28
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I'm never really clear what it means by citadel on a boat, is it the conning tower? I've not come across it before.
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Aramoro posted:I'm never really clear what it means by citadel on a boat, is it the conning tower? I've not come across it before. It's been covered a few times in this thread but it's basically hitting a ship in the soft, squishy bits for extra damage.
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Aramoro posted:I'm never really clear what it means by citadel on a boat, is it the conning tower? I've not come across it before. The citadel is deep inside the ship. It is usally all the vital parts - engine, ammo, etc - which are surrounded by armor more often than not. If anything penetrates there is basically meant death for a real ship. Here it is just a crit that deals a bunch of damage.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:32
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Also, you aren't guaranteed of a citadel hit even if you hit the exact same place you did before - from what I've been told it's entirely chance-based.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:41
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If anyone's getting issues with the Rising Sun flag replacement, where signal flags are hosed up and some national flags are switched, it's because WG inexplicably changed the layout of the various flags on the texture file. I have gone ahead and fixed it for you, just drop the unzipped folder into res/mods and overwrite. Interestingly it seems WG have included only one texture for Germany, which means people trying to make historical flag replacements are going to have a bitch of a time separating the Kaiserliche Marine, Reichsmarine, and Kriegsmarine out. By comparison, the Imperial Russian Navy and Soviet Navy use two separate spaces on the texture. Later I might replace the current texture (KM naval jack/post-1933 RM ensign) with the KM ensign. Wargaming seem not to quite understand the traditions governing their placement, either - Warspite's White Ensign should be flying from her mast, it was only flown astern while docked up. I presume the same is true of the IJN ships, meaning only the USN ones have their ensign displayed properly.
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Jul 15, 2015 16:54
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Where is the citadel on the Cleveland?
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Krataar posted:Where is the citadel on the Cleveland? As a general rule, aiming at the waterline below the funnels is a good start. Magazines are more finnicky, but can be found underneath gun turrets, also near the waterline. Remember that on cruisers and destroyers, there's a lot less ship underwater - the engine spaces on many cruisers extend all the way to the deck. Battleships, meanwhile, hide most of their vitals under the waterline, so you'll need plunging fire to really consistently gently caress them.
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Krataar posted:Where is the citadel on the Cleveland? It's the boat. The middle of it. At the waterline. Like literally every boat ever.
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The base Cleveland isn't all that, but once you get the upgrade that improves the RoF on your guns it gets a lot better. It was easy to do that in CBT, but now that we are in OBT it take 9.8k just to upgrade the hull and then a further 5.5k to upgrade the guns. I honestly prefer the Cleveland but you can't do the 'weave in/out' thing that you can do with the Omaha.
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Michaellaneous posted:It's the boat. The Cleveland isn't too bad, but i have no idea how to hit the citadel on the St Louis. Even with the Murmansk I've only ever hit it ONCE. All that crap up top blocks plunging fire it seems.
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rossmum posted:Interestingly it seems WG have included only one texture for Germany, which means people trying to make historical flag replacements are going to have a bitch of a time separating the Kaiserliche Marine, Reichsmarine, and Kriegsmarine out. By comparison, the Imperial Russian Navy and Soviet Navy use two separate spaces on the texture. Later I might replace the current texture (KM naval jack/post-1933 RM ensign) with the KM ensign. Wargaming seem not to quite understand the traditions governing their placement, either - Warspite's White Ensign should be flying from her mast, it was only flown astern while docked up. I presume the same is true of the IJN ships, meaning only the USN ones have their ensign displayed properly. They might add as necessary, but why bother when the KM had literally the best flag?
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Hazdoc posted:Like delete CVs Not gonna lie, the best matches i have had in CBT and OBT were where there was like 6-7 battleships on each team and 5-6 cruisers. No CV no DD.
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Jul 15, 2015 18:38
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they could just remove cv's and refund the players xp to free XP only useable in world of warplanes
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Jul 15, 2015 18:42
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Ihmemies posted:Those numbers are facts. Omaha is a better ship in every way. It even gets to play better maps and easier enemies. Omaha could relatively easily carry games, Cleveland.. hell no. I have not gotten back to it in open beta, so things may have changed, but the old trick to the Cleveland was to shoot AP first and last. The Cleveland's shells are so slow that at the edge of their fire range they are basically dropping straight down. If you start out with AP at 11 km or so you can get citadels all day by dropping shells on the deck. Then switch to HE for the mid range gun breaking and fire starting, and finally back to AP for the brawl. Also never not be drunk driving and stay the gently caress away from the Fuso.
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Hagop posted:Also never not be drunk driving and stay the gently caress away from the Fuso. Pretty sound advice for any ship class.
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 Sick carrier matchmaking. Edit: Whoops, just noticed the guy matched up with a tier 6. Fair, I guess? rossmum posted:The Atago is loving filthy. gently caress, I want to wait for a small discount before I buy it - even 5% would be enough - but now I'm scared they'll take it out of the shop again or something. OSad fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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rossmum posted:Speaking of AP, don't let the current HE/fire meta turn your brain into pubbie mush. Lol, got it. It's easier to grab a chance to land AP hits against soft ships on these quick firing USN cruisers.  Is there any point in firing 152mm AP at BBs though, ever? Also, why am I rewarded a single flag for some achievements instead of 10? Is that what happens when you've already got some flags of that type? 
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PirateBob posted:Lol, got it. I think you can only get the 10 flags once every 24 hours.
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PirateBob posted:Lol, got it. I think that's just for the Zulu flag. I guess that after the credit on-track mission in world of tanks, they want to keep the credit economy in check on this game?
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With my Omaha, I use AP against other cruisers. One game I was consistently getting Citadel hits against cruisers that did exactly 10,000 damage, such is a lot vs a Cruiser. If they have half heath and you Citadel them, you have a chance to blow them up in a single salvo. Far more preferable than sandblasting them with HE.
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PirateBob posted:Is there any point in firing 152mm AP at BBs though, ever? I wouldn't bother. Plunging fire against them doesn't really begin to do anything until 8", and even then you need good hits and a weak-decked BB target.
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Burno posted:Not gonna lie, the best matches i have had in CBT and OBT were where there was like 6-7 battleships on each team and 5-6 cruisers. No CV no DD. Yeah, CVs seem to fall into the same trap as snipers do in most shooters. They may be fun to play as, but on the receiving end it's just annoying, and there's little you can actively do against them unless you're one yourself. They also don't fulfill a particularly necessary role in the grand scheme of things that isn't already covered by destroyers. By comparison I don't really mind DDs, they at least need to take a significant risk when they go in for an attack.
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rossmum posted:I wouldn't bother. Plunging fire against them doesn't really begin to do anything until 8", and even then you need good hits and a weak-decked BB target.
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Ihmemies posted:Those numbers are facts. Omaha is a better ship in every way. It even gets to play better maps and easier enemies. Omaha could relatively easily carry games, Cleveland.. hell no. I dunno, try hitting people with your shots? 3K damage volleys with HE on a Cleveland is where its at, and the Cleveland shoots hilariously fast. The Omaha also doesn't have Defensive Fire or Hydroacoustic Search, and can't bring all of its turrets to bear on a target. The Cleveland is basically better in every way. The only major difference is that the Cleveland's shots are a little floatier than the Omaha's, so you need to lead a bit more (in my experience). You will MAUL Omahas within 8 KM, though, fire AP into their exposed broadside for easy citadels and a dead Omaha. DDs and planes will fear you.
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I finally got this and holy poo poo is it ever amazing. What ships should I focus on? Are any of the premiums worth getting?
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This is what makes battleships fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vy7zSULxsY Appart from that I find cruisers much more enjoyable.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I finally got this and holy poo poo is it ever amazing. What ships should I focus on? Are any of the premiums worth getting? Murmansk, Ishizuchi (*relatively* cheap and probably ~going away~ soon), Atago/Atlanta, roughly in that order of value for the dollar. The Atago is a better earner and jack-of-all-trades than the Atlanta, and seeing as you're a brand-newbie to the game, dropping yourself in Tier 7 or 8 from the get-go is probably not the best idea. You can buy the Murmansk and Ishizuchi (which is cash purchase only, by the way - not available through the in-game store) for half the cash of what the Atago or Atlanta cost for either. Comedy option is the Aurora. It's pretty mediocre, but at its core it's a really cheap Russian analog of the St. Louis (but they're not the same ship). BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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I have terrible tunnel vision because I love to use the shell cam when firing a lot of guns and seeing the shells sail through the sky before smashing into the water above and below the enemy ship. Well maybe not the last part but flying along with the shots for a first class view of the carnage is pretty great.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Murmansk, Ishizuchi (cheap and probably ~going away~ soon), Atago/Atlanta, roughly in that order of value for the dollar. The Atago is a better earner and jack-of-all-trades than the Atlanta, and seeing as you're a brand-newbie to the game, dropping yourself in Tier 7 or 8 from the get-go is probably not the best idea. You can buy the Murmansk and Ishizuchi (which is cash only, by the way - not available in-game) for half the cash of what the Atago or Atlanta cost for either. Well a friend gave me some bonus code so I have the Mumansk. I'll look into grabing an Ishizuchi. Is Sky Cancer basically arty? I loved arty in WoT. Also, what class would most line up with the French mediums? Fast, lots of boom, die really easy.
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Carriers are essentially their own arcane sub-game in the style of an RTS.
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PirateBob posted:Lol, got it. i got a citadel on a myogi with a tenryu the other day 
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Well a friend gave me some bonus code so I have the Mumansk. I'll look into grabing an Ishizuchi. The Ishizuchi isn't anything special, it's just pretty much - by its own 'bio' - a Kongo prototype that's got two on the hood and three on the trunk (so you can mass fire better while withdrawing while presenting a smaller target), and unlike the Arkansas Beta, has a bare minimum of AA.
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I think I've found my pubbie good luck charm. Guy I nuked right off the bat in my Sims invited me to a division, I decided to join, every single match I ended up pulling ridiculous carries. Last one before we both quit was a 7-kill, >100k damage Iwaki match. 1800 base XP loss.yaay posted:i got a citadel on a myogi with a tenryu the other day Playing with Ren_Nerd earlier, he killed an Amagi from full HP alone, in a New York. All citadels. It was hilarious. rossmum fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jul 15, 2015 |
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