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As a Millennial I posted:i skimmed it again and found one more person saying that /r/coontown shouldn't be banned lol after two more weeks of every media outlet mocking reddit they'll close it
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Jul 16, 2015 21:35
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Bob & Tom present Welcome to the Coontown
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Jul 16, 2015 21:41
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right now indeed https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3djjxw/lets_talk_content_ama/quote:These types of content are prohibited [1]:
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Jul 16, 2015 21:43
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so their answer is to tag lovely subreddits as "indecent." lol. good work guys
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Jul 16, 2015 21:44
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Jul 16, 2015 21:45
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As a Millennial I posted:so their answer is to tag lovely subreddits as "indecent." lol. good work guys at last the skeleton wars are over
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Jul 16, 2015 21:45
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has anyone compared the indecent content tag to Judenstern yet
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Jul 16, 2015 21:46
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As a Millennial I posted:right now indeed https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3djjxw/lets_talk_content_ama/ OK: it would be good if all the n* died not ok: kill all n*
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Jul 16, 2015 21:47
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anonymous, free, online forum based on voting allows hate speech, sees it prosper does conde nast not own reddit anymore?
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Jul 16, 2015 21:47
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:anonymous, free, online forum based on voting allows hate speech, sees it prosper i dont think so i think they're owned by the company that owns conde naste
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:anonymous, free, online forum based on voting allows hate speech, sees it prosper sure doesn't seem like it.
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Jul 16, 2015 21:48
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lol they had the opportunity and they just made a huge statement of their previous policies combined with no longer indexing porn. ~what a surprise~
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Jul 16, 2015 21:50
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i have no idea who the gently caress is going to be satisfied by this ~reclassification~ poo poo but hey, at least they are properly banning /r/rapingwomen. they drew deep and found it within themselves to ban a subreddit literally called /r/rapingwomen. great job nice graphic on the mashable article: 
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Jul 16, 2015 21:50
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i can't figure out: when whoever is actually in charge over there is doing some accounting says "how do we make more money," they don't look at the racism/sexism/whatever and say "hey... i wonder if people avoid us because of that???"
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Jul 16, 2015 21:52
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Jul 16, 2015 21:54
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:i can't figure out: when whoever is actually in charge over there is doing some accounting says "how do we make more money," they don't look at the racism/sexism/whatever and say "hey... i wonder if people avoid us because of that???" my best guess is they're terrified of driving away 10-20% of their audience [even if they are all toxic shitbags]
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Jul 16, 2015 22:02
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we ran ads on reddit once, targeted to certain subreddits and they absolutely massively overdelivered in impressions but were so far beneath benchmark on clickthroughs we ended up not having to pay for it.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:06
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I get that, but I DON'T get when a bunch of investors come calling and reddit says "yeah, we met our growth goals, etc." but the money doesn't line up, they don't say "Hey i heard something about people yelling friend of the family a bunch... I don't think any advertisers like that. could we do something about it?" Or, conversely, why the conversation isn't "we did not meet our growth goals, but it is due in part to us removing hate speech." ...i dunno who owns it but goddamn, they're trying to make money not just off social media, but also one steeped in bigotry? there's like, four bridges near me i want to sell them
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Jul 16, 2015 22:07
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PuTTY riot posted:OK: it would be good if all the n* died
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And whose code of decency would be the basis for this new classification? I have enjoyed this website for many years now. It has been superb as a collection of communities where news, ideas, and interesting new things on the Internet can be shared. And its success is owed largely to its reputation as a space where free expression can thrive. But the structural integrity of Reddit is under threat. It has been for many years. And it's not from those who engage in hate speech. It's from another community of Redditors, one which simultaneously denounces and profits from the site's hands-off policy towards its users. Their most problematic community is /r/shitredditsays, and they are unofficially known as social justice warriors. Here is my stance on this latest Reddit controversy in a nutshell: I would rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than by social justice warriors. Say what you will about those who frequent the hate subreddits. At least they only want their voice to be heard, even though what they say may be unpalatable. By contrast, social justice warriors aim to suppress the voice of others. Only one of these groups pose a threat to a free and open marketplace of ideas. It is understandable that you would wish to restrict hate speech, either for moral reasons or to placate potential advertisers. But long before you ever discussed the censorship of hate speech on your site, you strongly opposed the actions of vote manipulation, of which there is substantial evidence of guilt by SRS. Here is my suggestion for you, to avoid hypocrisy: If you censor the hate subreddits, you must censor /r/shitredditsays as well. If you do not comply, I will cease my regular activity here, migrating my presence to Voat and other competitors that may arise. I will not purchase Reddit Gold, for myself or anyone else. And I will use ad-blocking software when visiting your site. I have no moral qualms about this. Reddit may no longer call itself a "bastion of free speech," but it still advertises itself as a place where one can make their voice heard without being subjected to downvote brigades, and would be given equal footing with the censorious. If you shut down subreddits for their ideas and not others for their behavior, you would be guilty of false advertising.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:11
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As a black man, I came to Reddit because it was a bastion of free speech. It was a place where I could come and be judged on the quality of what I had to say - not the person who said it. It was a place where new ideas could be born, because nobody was afraid of expressing their honest thoughts, opinions, and theories. From what I've seen, SJWs want to destroy that. They care more about who you are than what you say, and if you're not a trans-woman genderqueer attack helicoptor feminist, your ideas don't count. As a black man, I hate /r/coontown , but I would defend to my death their right to speak freely. /u/spez, What will you do to ensure that reddit remains a free and open platform for everyone?
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Jul 16, 2015 22:11
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Jul 16, 2015 22:12
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:coontown users actually call for the death of blacks but apparently this isn't abusing a group of people So reddit is run like the Baltimore Police, got it. 
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Jul 16, 2015 22:14
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As a Millennial I posted:right now indeed https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3djjxw/lets_talk_content_ama/ r/spacedicks dodges the bullet
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Jul 16, 2015 22:15
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I am wondering if you're intending on making reddit a curated space, with the addition of video content and the removal of content you personally deem objectionable, how your're going to address the reduced safe harbor protections provided by USC 230. Furthermore what is deemed objectionable may in fact be protected speech under the Unruh act, which prohibits any and all arbitrary discrimination whatsoever, for example removing subreddits that aren't breaking rules or criticizing reddit's actions. Furthermore, I would like to address reddits participation in the http://derp.institute , and whether or not reddit can be trusted as a unbiased source of news, considering the conflicts of interest with for example /u/kn0thing and and Marc Andreessen's relationship with the Clintons. Because to many outsiders it seems like reddit isn't fostering a community but pushing for a narrative, for example punishing groups deemed unfavorable to their political ideology, but allowing for blatantly objectionable content that follows your ideology. For example the fact that reddit and many of its admins openly advocate breaking civil rights laws, and indeed likely breaking hiring laws when it screens users for social justice and gender, while disparaging the userbase that it derives its income from. Do you feel that this is a violation of the fiduciary duty, because it's clear that its exposed Reddit to alot of risk, and alot of harm to the community from which it derives income. Lastly, I remember Sam Altman mentioning that users would be able to participate more in reddit governance, and his plan on increasing the ownership of reddit by its own community. Its clear that many of us are upset with the governance, and would enjoy a more open and participatory governance scheme, or is reddit going to continue to ignore its users at its own peril.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:15
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As a Millennial I posted:trans-woman genderqueer attack helicoptor feminist lol
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Jul 16, 2015 22:16
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Jul 16, 2015 22:17
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:who named tjis Fark is a community dedicated to presenting news in a way that's both informative and entertaining. Featuring user-submitted news stories and with funny, sarcastic taglines, Fark appears very much like if the Daily Show ran the Drudge Report, but with irreverent discussion in real time.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:18
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lol "look i know they hate blacks, but i hate women more so please leave us alone"
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Jul 16, 2015 22:19
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As a Millennial I posted:trans-woman genderqueer attack helicoptor feminist
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Jul 16, 2015 22:19
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these people are like parodies of themselves now
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Jul 16, 2015 22:20
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Boxturret posted:these people are like parodies of themselves now
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Jul 16, 2015 22:23
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Please don't ban subreddits that SJWs disagree with... I grew up in a country without freedom of speech and to see it being wiped away in the name of political correctness makes me cry inside. I've seen people get beat up over expression and have their bones broken... to see Americans casually let the embers of their freedoms die out to make 'safe spaces' would be a loss for all humanity.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:25
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so they're doing essentially nothing, meaning I was completely correct.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:25
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in my country there is problem and that problem is sjws
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Jul 16, 2015 22:25
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he's making a thing about how coontown won't bring any revenue to reddit since ads will no longer show on it but what this actually means is reddit is subsidizing white supremacy
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Jul 16, 2015 22:30
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As a Millennial I posted:Please don't ban subreddits that SJWs disagree with... I grew up in a country without freedom of speech and to see it being wiped away in the name of political correctness makes me cry inside. I've seen people get beat up over expression and have their bones broken... to see Americans casually let the embers of their freedoms die out to make 'safe spaces' would be a loss for all humanity.
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Jul 16, 2015 22:32
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freedom of speech != i can post what i like on any given website without having my posts and account deleted go say that poo poo on the street, it's a free country
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Aleksei Vasiliev posted:he's making a thing about how coontown won't bring any revenue to reddit since ads will no longer show on it but what this actually means is reddit is subsidizing white supremacy in order to keep this sub ad-free, you must be at least this racist to post
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