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It's interesting because Julia & Liz's goodbye message talks about voting Jeff out, so either Liz screwed up somehow saying James' name or she misled both Julia and the rest of her allies. Which doesn't seem too smart, but maybe they can pin the vote on someone else?
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Clocks posted:It's interesting because Julia & Liz's goodbye message talks about voting Jeff out, so either Liz screwed up somehow saying James' name or she misled both Julia and the rest of her allies. Which doesn't seem too smart, but maybe they can pin the vote on someone else? Third option: they wanted Jeff to out and knew he was going home regardless of their vote, so they did the hinky vote just to gently caress with the house.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:46
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rafington posted:I'm struggling to understand why Steve did that. He's on the edge of the outsider alliance as is and this is gonna cause that group to fracture. Maybe he thinks they'll suspect someone else? Steve HAD to be a hinky vote. I just can't imagine any other reason for him to do that. He knew the vote was going the other way, he knew Jeff was targeting him, and he has no relationship with Jeff. He must just trying to throw a wrench into things for chaos. And maybe Liz was doing the same? Or maybe she's just dumb and thought she was a swing vote and wanted to keep manipulating Jeff? I really don't know. The house is totally nuts. Audrey is Nyarthalotep, the crawling chaos. She has infected them all.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:48
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Jul 17, 2015 02:48
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Jul 17, 2015 02:49
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This competition is amazing.STAC Goat posted:Steve HAD to be a hinky vote. I just can't imagine any other reason for him to do that. He knew the vote was going the other way, he knew Jeff was targeting him, and he has no relationship with Jeff. He must just trying to throw a wrench into things for chaos. I just feel like Steve landed in a great spot after being a target for the first few weeks, so why not sit in the middle and let the two sides fire shots at each other? Why shake things up?
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Jul 17, 2015 02:50
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Liz HOH! Twin switch from the hoh! Let chaos reign!
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Jul 17, 2015 02:51
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rafington posted:This competition is amazing. I really, really have no idea. I can't figure out the motivations for anyone in this house. It's all Audrey's fault. They've stared too long into the Mouth of Madness.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:52
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What are the odds of the noms being the exact same as last week?
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Jul 17, 2015 02:53
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Clocks posted:It's interesting because Julia & Liz's goodbye message talks about voting Jeff out, so either Liz screwed up somehow saying James' name or she misled both Julia and the rest of her allies. Which doesn't seem too smart, but maybe they can pin the vote on someone else? I'm pretty sure they record goodbye messages for both nominees though?
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Jul 17, 2015 02:54
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rafington posted:What are the odds of the noms being the exact same as last week? Solid. Johnny Mac got no protection from Liz and Jason, James, and Meg are the likely targets. It's possible Jackie goes up instead of Johnny Mac. Shelli's nominations could be hard. Steve is the only safe nominee she can put up so he might end up a pawn. Jason will be the target, I think. He has been very vocal that his top targets are Austin, Audrey, Shelli, and Liz. He needed to win that one, not go out in rd 1 because he can't count. For Jason's sake I hope he didn't throw that.
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Jul 17, 2015 02:59
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:I'm pretty sure they record goodbye messages for both nominees though? Yeah but she specifically said something dog being part of Jeff leaving
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Jul 17, 2015 02:59
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Britt Burns posted:LOL at Jeff calling Austin creepy.
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Jul 17, 2015 03:02
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So Big Brother has not aired anything with Clay telling the house guests he plays (played) football for A&M. In fact they aired him hiding the fact that he played football. I'm assuming he let it slip during the feeds but was surprised Julie dropped that question on him.
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Jul 17, 2015 03:03
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STAC Goat posted:Solid. Johnny Mac got no protection from Liz and Jason, James, and Meg are the likely targets. It's possible Jackie goes up instead of Johnny Mac. Shelli's nominations could be hard. Steve is the only safe nominee she can put up so he might end up a pawn. Yeah Jason makes the most sense as the target for me too, but this week we don't have a backdoor, so he could save himself with the BotB, unless he's up with John throwing it. I feel like it's starting to get really loving risky for John to keep throwing if he does it again this week, but they're very likely to ask him to do it again, and he can't really say no. Does he have a deal with Shelli?
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Jul 17, 2015 03:04
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Fast Luck posted:He is. Super creepy Pot, kettle. Austin's got his issues but he doesn't hold a candle to Jeff.
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Jul 17, 2015 03:04
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:So Big Brother has not aired anything with Clay telling the house guests he plays (played) football for A&M. In fact they aired him hiding the fact that he played football. I'm assuming he let it slip during the feeds but was surprised Julie dropped that question on him. I thought the same thing
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Jul 17, 2015 03:05
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STAC Goat posted:Pot, kettle. Austin's got his issues but he doesn't hold a candle to Jeff. Unrequited love is one thing but the way his head was about to explode was hilarious and creepy. She doesn't belong to you Austin "Judas votes to evict Jeff bwahaha!" What a dork
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blue squares posted:I thought the same thing I think that fact that he played for A&M is the secret. Just playing football isn't. Doesn't shelli wear is HS football tshirt?
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Fast Luck posted:Lol at him raging the gently caress out because Jeff was talking to the girl he's crushing on and then giving DRs about falling in love quickly while she gives DRs about how she'd rather keep Jeff to be fair he's said that every week. Judas is his wrestler name, I think?
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Clay hasn't hidden his football background. One of the guys even asked him if he played with Johnny Football. rafington posted:Yeah Jason makes the most sense as the target for me too, but this week we don't have a backdoor, so he could save himself with the BotB, unless he's up with John throwing it. Sort of? Jeff formed an alliance with Shelli, Clay, Jackie, Johnny Mac, and Jeff during Shelli's last HOH week. Shelli and Clay have played that up with Johnny Mac and Shelli really likes and values him so I can't imagine her asking him to go up and throw a third time. Clay will probably suggest it but I think Shelli is smart enough to shoot it down. Besides, Shelli doesn't like or trust Steve and was talking about trying to convince him to throw if she won HOH. So I expect he'll be her pawn. Liz has nothing with Johnny Mac so she can put him up. But presumably the Sixth Sense will plot together and I think they'll want Shelli to have HOH because Liz/Julia sharing HOH will be complicated as gently caress (but awesome). But that assumes 3.5 (Vanessa, Austin, Liz, and Julia) trust Shelli and Clay, which is iffy. Some quartet of Johnny Mac, Steve, Jackie, Meg, Jason, and James. I'm not sure how it will break down though. Fast Luck posted:Lol at him raging the gently caress out because Jeff was talking to the girl he's crushing on and then giving DRs about falling in love quickly while she gives DRs about how she'd rather keep Jeff But Jeff talks about gangbanging the twins in the Jury House, jerked off in bed next to a sleeping houseguest, and manages to hold every single game talk with a woman in this house in a bed. Jeff is super creepy.
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blue squares posted:to be fair he's said that every week. Judas is his wrestler name, I think? STAC Goat posted:But Jeff talks about gangbanging the twins in the Jury House, jerked off in bed next to a sleeping houseguest, and manages to hold every single game talk with a woman in this house in a bed. Jeff is super creepy.
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Fast Luck posted:That and it's his alter-ego, he thinks it's really cool to put on the hat and "become" Judas when he votes people out or whatever. Yeah, Jizzgate was more or less debunked but the reason it was so believable is because it wasn't the first time Jeff was caught jerking it in bed next to someone. Or the first time he threatened to jizz on someone. And there's the fact that what was ACTUALLY happening in that video was that Jeff was trying to take Julia's shirt off to look for a mole on her back. And Julia was grossed out and disgusted by it. Jeff is vile.
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STAC Goat posted:Solid. Johnny Mac got no protection from Liz and Jason, James, and Meg are the likely targets. It's possible Jackie goes up instead of Johnny Mac. Shelli's nominations could be hard. Steve is the only safe nominee she can put up so he might end up a pawn. Steve and Jason throw that comp and if these idiots paid attention they would have known it. STAC Goat posted:Yeah, Jizzgate was more or less debunked but the reason it was so believable is because it wasn't the first time Jeff was caught jerking it in bed next to someone. Or the first time he threatened to jizz on someone. Given how Julia treated Jeff I would say he was even more creepy before the feeds turned on.
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I'll guess that they will either try to target Jason or James again. Possible Aidrey if things don't fall into place because you would be dumb to put James and Jason on a team for botb
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Jul 17, 2015 16:59
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Also why do some people talk about floating like its a valid strategy? The only person you could make any argument for working was Andy but it's pretty much never works.
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Dan was a major floater in his first season. He perfected it. Ride the middle as useless for 80% of the game, then kick it into high gear in final 6 once everyone plays in veto.
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Jul 17, 2015 17:23
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Jun floated, Will Floated. Floating is a great plan especially for the first few weeks while everyone (this season more then others) plays hard. It got a bad rap because some people thing Rachel is good at Big Brother.
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Floating early is a pretty viable strategy. Why stick your neck out if you don't have to? Play hard later in the game. Foster a good relationship with every single person in the house and always make sure there's always a bigger target than you. Then latch on late-mid game and ride an alliance to the end.
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Floating gets a bad rap because it usually means that person did nothing all summer. People are using super extreme examples like Dan... but that's NOT the average floater. The average floater is Johnny Mac and Jackie who don't talk game or even personal conversations on the feeds, sleep all the time, etc...Floaters suck to watch so as a game strategy it's kind of hard to say "good game" to that for me. It is a winnable strategy, but not one I like.
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Jul 17, 2015 21:28
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Yeah, there's floating as a strategy and there's just being a floater because you're not playing. Dan, Jun, Andy all played the game hard but just kept moving how they could and tried to keep the attention off them. But every season has you Victorias and Spencers who just do nothing all season floating by a long time because they never do anything to win.
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Spiky Ooze posted:Floating gets a bad rap because it usually means that person did nothing all summer. Johnny Mac is a floater? Come on now. He's built some solid relationships with people in the house... he's won or purposely lost every non HOH competition this summer. Also, is there no takeover this week? Like did they realize the first 3 takeovers did absolutely nothing to the game and just give up?
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sbaldrick posted:Jun floated, Will Floated. Rachel doesn't even know what the definition of a floater is. On RHAP this last week she said Meg and Juliz were floaters even though both of them are firmly entrenched in alliances and talk game all the time.
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Jul 17, 2015 22:52
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Johnny Mac's just on the outside of the alliances but he honestly given his comp wins should be considered to be a huge threat.
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Meg is only in the alliance that she fell into week 1, since then she's been a floater. But it's a mistake on her part because she's already lumped in with a group of targets and could get picked off as a secondary target.
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Yeah, Meg's a total floater at this stage. She's throwing comps, making no real connections. She basically only plays when she absolute has to after HOHs and when she goes up. And even then Audrey had to light a fire under her rear end to actually campaign against Day. Meg wants to play under the radar, and that's fine in theory, but its not working for her and she's yet to adapt. Johnny Mac I'm torn on. If he wasn't being used so much he absolutely would be a floater. He doesn't talk game, he might be throwing HOHs, and he's trying to lay low. In and of itself I think its too early to tell if that's "floating" or "under the radar" but the fact that he's thrown two BotBs and still hasn't really started to working to better his game position has me concerned that he's just not a very good player. Its the same as Meg. Its fine if he came in looking to be under the radar, but circumstances need him to start getting a little more pro-active.
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Fast Luck posted:He is. Super creepy Shut up. Why are you even believing the two minute edit when you know the producers heavily manipulate tv viewers? And that they want Jeff to look good since he was on another one of their shows? Jeff is one of the most vile, misogynistic people to ever appear on this show and it's a testament to the girls and Austin that none of them have completely gone off on his rear end. CBS needed a way for the Jeff boot top make sense and didn't want to show any of his many disgusting comments or actions. James has been doing a lot of the comments too, but he's clearly only been doing it because Jeff has.
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