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Seven runs of A2 with my static and not a single person got a drop. What a wonderful loot system SE has created.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:26 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 04:42 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Seven runs of A2 with my static and not a single person got a drop. What a wonderful loot system SE has created. Because you were all looking for a specific token that didn't drop?
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:28 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Seven runs of A2 with my static and not a single person got a drop. What a wonderful loot system SE has created. How fast were you clearing out those A2s? Can we get a screenshot of your parser?
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:30 |
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As a casual baby who never played an mmo before this game I remember having a lot of fun in early game dungeons. Then i get level synced from the 40s during roulettes and I wonder how I stood it.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:37 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Seven runs of A2 with my static and not a single person got a drop. What a wonderful loot system SE has created. And what kind of loot system would you prefer?
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:43 |
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Mordiceius posted:And what kind of loot system would you prefer? item + generic token. So you could either get lucky and get the item you want, or enough running the dungeon and you can eventually just turn in tokens to get what you want.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:45 |
Pews posted:item + generic token. So you could either get lucky and get the item you want, or enough running the dungeon and you can eventually just turn in tokens to get what you want. ravana is indeed a good loot system
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:55 |
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Pews posted:item + generic token. So you could either get lucky and get the item you want, or enough running the dungeon and you can eventually just turn in tokens to get what you want. And it sounds like this is exactly what they're doing for Savage mode.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:56 |
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Pews posted:item + generic token. So you could either get lucky and get the item you want, or enough running the dungeon and you can eventually just turn in tokens to get what you want. What about after the second week when you're fully geared up?
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:58 |
fount of knowledge posted:What about after the second week when you're fully geared up? who cares its just savage prep
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:59 |
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Man, ACT is depressing as poo poo. I installed it a few days ago and just did almost triple the damage output as a mediocre BRD than the NIN in HLDR Kinda get what you jerks are talking about re: poo poo dps players.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 04:08 |
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fount of knowledge posted:What about after the second week when you're fully geared up? The ideal system, assuming that you want to time gate the drops: -1 piece of equipment per week altogether (so you can only get one piece of equipment out of all of the floors). -A single token per floor, per week, that's generic and can be traded in (in varying amounts) for gear. You could get, at best, about 2-3 pieces of equipment per week, unless you're zeroing in solely on grabbing accessories, much like how the current system operates... just without the aggravation of doing a fight seven times without getting anything (in a static!). The current system is an idiotic mess, and I'm more convinced than ever that it was just a testing ground to see how well the community would receive it (poorly).
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 04:09 |
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Arrgytehpirate posted:who cares its just savage prep I see this kind of thing mentioned a lot that "it doesn't matter because it's easy anyway" but keep in mind this is going to be endgame for a lot of people who aren't capable of clearing savage. They probably do intentionally want it to last a while for them.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 04:18 |
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I think the alex system would be ok if it dropped 4-6 things per clear instead of two.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:09 |
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Klades posted:I think the alex system would be ok if it dropped 4-6 things per clear instead of two. Just make it drop 1 of all 3. It's such an obvious solution that I was surprised when it wasn't like that.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:14 |
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After only five maps I got everything I needed for my Thavnairian Bolero
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:15 |
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Mordiceius posted:And what kind of loot system would you prefer? Pews posted:item + generic token. So you could either get lucky and get the item you want, or enough running the dungeon and you can eventually just turn in tokens to get what you want. Pretty much this. The current system is even worse than just random drops, because at least with that people could get stuff for off-classes. Instead we had to watch dozens of pedals and bolts vanish into the aether. Even worse, we had people who did need pedals and bolts, but not from that floor. The whole thing is just stupid.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:15 |
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POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:Man, ACT is depressing as poo poo. I installed it a few days ago and just did almost triple the damage output as a mediocre BRD than the NIN in HLDR No, the depth of depression is going into it as a Paladin and having the dps lead by over 100.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:16 |
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fount of knowledge posted:What about after the second week when you're fully geared up? With the current system you're fully geared up after 4 weeks so it's not like that really matters. They just made it arbitrarily tedious.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:19 |
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So after coming back from the ARR launch, I'm really glad to see how much they have added to this game. I just found out tonight you could change the color of your chocobo and got all giddy. Other QOL changes as well like being able to mount / dismount your chocobobuddy when you have them out.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:45 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:You gotta step it up. If you do it right you go straight from the second hand phase right to the last phase and skip the second set of adds altogether. I thought it just went from body to hand and back to body (I've never run A3 with non-(competent)goon groups). If you push hard enough to get it under 35% it doesn't even go to the hand form again. You just get to keep burning the hell out of it without any pause in the action. I can't imagine going slow enough that you have a 2nd tornado phase unless a DPS is dead for awhile. Stormgale posted:Because you were all looking for a specific token that didn't drop? All but 1 run was bolts+pedal. The 1 run that was different was 2 bolts. Yes, the drop most people wanted was the Lens. I said gently caress it and grabbed a bolt because I'll just get Lens #2 next week instead and the slaying necklace is nice but it drops me under 540 acc which is probably under cap (though I haven't noticed a miss yet ). POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:Man, ACT is depressing as poo poo. I installed it a few days ago and just did almost triple the damage output as a mediocre BRD than the NIN in HLDR With HLDR keep in mind you can easily get a fresh(ish) 50 player and if you're being synced down to i110 and they're in the i70-80 range you're going to blow them away even if they're playing the class properly. It's painful when you go in to a HLDR as a DPS and see that you have more HP than the WAR when he's in defiance and you risk ripping aggro because even an aggro combo only does so much against someone with50% more ilevels than you. It's like going back and helping a level 59 tank in Library. Their 145ish weapon and armor is fine for the dungeon but an i180+ DPS is generating a hell of a lot more aggro than a fellow lvl 59 could.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:47 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's painful when you go in to a HLDR as a DPS and see that you have more HP than the WAR when he's in defiance and you risk ripping aggro because even an aggro combo only does so much against someone with50% more ilevels than you. It's like going back and helping a level 59 tank in Library. Their 145ish weapon and armor is fine for the dungeon but an i180+ DPS is generating a hell of a lot more aggro than a fellow lvl 59 could. Ohhh is that how that works. I did a few dungeon runs last night and for the most part can demolish everyone in DPS, but ran one with a MCH that beat me pretty easily. But with this explanation that makes more sense and I don't feel as bad.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:52 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Even worse, we had people who did need pedals and bolts, but not from that floor. Does it matter which floor you get them from? (Other than THIS IS THE ONLY EFFICIENT MODEL OF GEARING UP?)
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:18 |
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Mordiceius posted:Does it matter which floor you get them from? (Other than THIS IS THE ONLY EFFICIENT MODEL OF GEARING UP?) it's the most efficient model of gearing up
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:19 |
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Mordiceius posted:Does it matter which floor you get them from? (Other than THIS IS THE ONLY EFFICIENT MODEL OF GEARING UP?) It matters when you've already gotten something else from that floor and you're locked out.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:22 |
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The Gordian tank armor is designed for like, Roe Males and no one else, christ
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:24 |
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Mordiceius posted:Does it matter which floor you get them from? (Other than THIS IS THE ONLY EFFICIENT MODEL OF GEARING UP?) My static and I are planning to do Alex Savage, so we want as much mainstat and vit as we can get before Tuesday. So yes, it matters quite a lot.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:28 |
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This completely caught me off guard and made me laugh a lot!
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 07:41 |
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Fumble posted:Is there a point in the game where it starts to get awesome? I got up to the level 20 in the story and class quests, and just haven't seen anything so far that would make me want to keep playing. The games breadcrumbs are completely fine and not being able to use the map is on you because they are really great. Be sure to grab random quests in the cities you see, they usually send you off somewhere. Also, check the recommendations window a lot. Combat sucks until the 30's to 40's depending on class. I feel like the main story is fairly dull until right after titan (34ish) at which point it gets to good enough to be interesting. The story doesn't get great until around 2.3 or 2.4 content which is at level 50. I would say stick with the game until after cutter's cry which is 38. If you still think it sucks or aren't seeing any glimmers of being pretty good then you are probably done. Here is a helpful link explaining where all the important unlocks are. http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Guide:Progression_and_Level_Locked_Content
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 08:31 |
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Anyone dealt with SE support before? My tablet broke, and I can't remove the software security token without the emergency removal password, which I don't have cause I wasn't planning to leave the token on there anyway. I submitted an email support request a day ago and haven't heard back yet.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 08:57 |
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Crimson Harvest posted:Anyone dealt with SE support before? My tablet broke, and I can't remove the software security token without the emergency removal password, which I don't have cause I wasn't planning to leave the token on there anyway. Best bet would be to call.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:00 |
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Crimson Harvest posted:Anyone dealt with SE support before? My tablet broke, and I can't remove the software security token without the emergency removal password, which I don't have cause I wasn't planning to leave the token on there anyway.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:00 |
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Mordiceius posted:Does it matter which floor you get them from? (Other than THIS IS THE ONLY EFFICIENT MODEL OF GEARING UP?) Even if you don't care about super maximal efficiency in terms of when you get your vitality and defense upgrades, you do have to follow these simple rules to finish in five weeks: - Floor 1: Go for waist once. - Floor 2: Go for head twice. - Floor 3: Never ever ever go for head. - Floor 4: Almost always go for body. In exactly one week out of every five, go for some non-body drop (that you still need at the time - may be hands, legs, or either) instead. - If not otherwise specifically noted: go for anything you still need at the time. That said, you don't need to make a huge stink over it. If you gently caress up the floor 3/4 guidelines (by, say, lotting the head token in floor 3) you'll still finish just fine, it'll just be week 6 instead of week 5 when all is said and done. If you gently caress up floor 1/2 in some minor way, it probably won't even delay you since you've got one drop's worth of wiggle room in five weeks anyway (two drops' worth, the first time around, due to the free accessory from the quest). If you're only really gearing up one job, no big deal. It's more important if you plan to consecutively gear job X, then job Y, then job Z, because that one week delay affects everything downstream too, and it gets compounded if you gently caress it up the next time around too. And of course, all of this is ignoring whatever effects a. esoterics and b. Alex savage will have on the whole process. And hell, if you're going for this gear not just for being 190 but also for glamour purposes, and you have no intention of doing Alex savage, then you're completely justified in ignoring those things even after they're relevant.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:09 |
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Crimson Harvest posted:Anyone dealt with SE support before? My tablet broke, and I can't remove the software security token without the emergency removal password, which I don't have cause I wasn't planning to leave the token on there anyway. Get on chat support. Do it about 1 minute before they open. They are really helpful and know that their website offering is really loving poo poo.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:20 |
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Vil posted:If you're only really gearing up one job, no big deal. It's more important if you plan to consecutively gear job X, then job Y, then job Z, because that one week delay affects everything downstream too, and it gets compounded if you gently caress it up the next time around too. On the other hand, yoshi said they'll look at it and probably change it up a bit in that Q&A.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:25 |
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Theres a second set of lubricants in Dad3?
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:51 |
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Is there a place I can read about the Alex loot system cos it sounds convoluted as gently caress.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 10:52 |
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Is there a place I can read about the Alex loot system cos it sounds convoluted as gently caress. That's it. The people outlining the optimal loot path, etc., are outlining which pieces to get from where to provide the theoretical fewest runs possible for them. In practice, this means little as statics are running each floor way too many times to get everyone the pieces they need. The breakdown of floors/parts is like this: Bolt x1 = Accessory Chain x1 = Belt Pedal x2 = Feet Crank x2 = Hands Lens x2 = Head Spring x4 = Legs Shaft x4 = Chest So, you have people who are only doing Shaft from Alex 4, aiming to get the Chest after 4 weeks, meaning that any run in which Crank & Spring drop does not benefit them. Similarly, if three people in a group want Shaft from A4 and two drop, at least one more A4 has to be done. It's not convoluted, per se, just stupid and wasteful. Edit: If that wasn't white noise enough, You Won't Believe What This Rock Did! Click Here to See 13 Shocking Rocks! Potato Jones fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jul 17, 2015 |
# ? Jul 17, 2015 11:11 |
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Potato Jones posted:Edit: If that wasn't white noise enough, You Won't Believe What This Rock Did! Science has indeed gone too far.
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 13:32 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 04:42 |
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where is the space paissa rock
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# ? Jul 17, 2015 13:37 |